Would Miss J be able to instruct people on Formalcraft? That requires no circuits as far as I remember, and it is magic.
 
Chapter 196: Sub vote
[X] Class System (Secondary Civilian classes)
[X] Dauntless wants to use a charge on his Totem, he wants me to be there just in case.
[X] Power
Power Roll: (1040 points)
Entry Roll D35=1
0 Removal, 100 Survivalist, 500 Summon x 3

Nothing to say this time.

Details:
-Removal: You can choose one category and permanently remove it from the Celestial Menagerie. You can immediately reroll.
You can gain this benefit any number of times.
-Survivalist: You become an extremely skilled survivalist, you can survive in the wild while naked, you are able to light a fire, create a shelter, and find water and food in the most unlikely place.
-Summon x 3: When you summon a creature less than 20m in length or height you can summon three of them instead of one. They only count as one creature for the purpose of your summoning limit. You can only have one creature affected at a time.

Vote:

[] 0 Removal
[] 100 Survivalist
[] 500 Summon x 3

[] Reject everything and keep points.

Voting will be closed Saturday at 3 PM GMT

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This is from my experience playing Fell Seal, but what do you think @zagan?
Your arguments made sense. but I don't have the same perspective. I don't consider Parahuman to have a "Parahuman class", I consider it more like a racial ability (even if those don't really exist in Fell Seal). So Beastmaster couldn't be gained as a second class to benefit from an existing Mana Pool. And while I'm sure Shards would be delighted to gain data about those strange powers the rules they operate under would prevent them from sending energy to their host for them to use.
Concerning the pet-sharing thing. I never tried to have two Beastmasters at the same time so I didn't know that this was possible to have the same pet multiple times with different characters. But even with that information, I consider that to be more a gameplay mechanic than anything else. Simply because in the game you can't use your Beastmaster ability at all if you don't have a Wrangler to tame the beasts beforehand which makes little sense.
So no, this avenue of magic is closed for the Adept.

As for the reveal of Dragon, what really caught me by surprise was learning that the Personal AI has the exact same settings and restrictions as Dragon. I expected it was based on her but the entry didn't seem to imply it was to this extent. It is a bit of a stretch but not an unreasonable one. The real question is how should Alex handle her situation.
Well yes the Personal AI does suffer from the same penalty as Dragon, I even considered having a version of Ascalon for it but that would have been too much. In practice, those restrictions are far less problematic for Virtual Alex than for Dragon. The no reproduction one is already covered by the CM who has the same rule. The authority one was mentioned. Putting human lives above his own is far less constraining when you know that you can be resummoned. There's no Iron Maiden for the personal AI (and it could still perceive the Iron Maiden of another AI). No modification to his own code isn't something that would even occur to Alex. And limited thinking speed isn't a hindrance when you're accustomed to a normal human thinking speed.

So will Civilian classes be limited to a more medieval setting, like Blacksmith, Leather Worker, and Seamstress? Or will be able to give out things with a more modern context like Mechanic, Plumber, or Photographer?
@zagan
For now, the plan is to go with generic classes, like Crafter, Entertainer, or Gatherer. And when you gain it you choose a specialty. So Crafter (Blacksmith), Crafter (Glassblower), or Crafter (Computer).

It's a travesty that you didn't add a T to name her Replicat!
LoL.

I want the first but my inner drug dealer values the second.
What does revival cost again?
Anything that Nimue would find valuable. She's mainly looking for samples of material that she has no example of yet, animals that she can absorb to gain new minion types, unique items like Tinkertech or Parahuman create objects, or if you don't have anything else you can offer a big quantity of precious metals or gems that she can convert into mana.

And will there be unique civilian classes for certain individuals?
No, not even Alex will have access to unique Civilian classes.

What happens if they tie a titanium chain to Compendium and have the Flerken eat him? Does the Flerken disappear? Does he survive and gets another Flerken to puke him up?
You mean if Compendium find himself trapped inside his own Flerken stomach, he can't for some reason teleport out and then the Flerken is forcefully unsummoned? Well in that case he would need to summon the Flerken again to get out.

Would Miss J be able to instruct people on Formalcraft? That requires no circuits as far as I remember, and it is magic.
Miss J can only teach mundane subjects that existed at the moment of her creation on SCP earth.
 
[X] 500 Summon x 3

Unless we have a category want gone I feel like this has a lot of use because there are quite a few powerful summons that are in this size category (like all the clow cards) also how does this work with the djinn because those are internal
 
Unless we have a category want gone I feel like this has a lot of use because there are quite a few powerful summons that are in this size category (like all the clow cards) also how does this work with the djinn because those are internal
Having three copies of a Card would be functionally useless. The effect of the cards are dependent on the quantity of magic fed to them not on the number of copies. For Djinn it would be phenomenal, however, unlocking a lot of Summons Spirits.
 
[X] Reject everything and keep points.

Yo guys, new plan. Let's reject everything every time just to fuck with Zagan.
 
If we Summoned 3 Doc Robots would they have the same power or would they have 3 separate powers?
Yes, they can have different powers. Same with all creatures that have variants.

Can Dragon's black box stuff affect Alex? Like as soon as he 'summons' the personal AI will Pellick get data streams from Alex and be able to futz with him?
No, there's enough difference between the two that Ascalon does not count Virtual Alex as a copy of Dragon and cannot link with him.
 
Yes, they can have different powers. Same with all creatures that have variants.


No, there's enough difference between the two that Ascalon does not count Virtual Alex as a copy of Dragon and cannot link with him.
Ok good. Be bad Compendium got thwarted in trampling them if they could just read his thoughts one day because of Compendium's misstep.
 
Vote Closed. Winning Vote: 500 Summon x 3

I want to hold a vote for Alex's Civilian class but I haven't finished working on it yet. So we'll do that later.
 
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