Shaman king is a great pick due to the meta-physical part of an over soul and the flexibility.
Summoner Quest (Celestial Menagerie)
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I think Dog got bumped up to 700 points now, along with some other Jackie Chan entries being repriced.
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- He
I have no idea. I guess enough to use Matamune Oversoul once per day. Something like that. I watched a little Shaman King years ago, but only the first few episodes.
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it heals people to their youth, not extra dimensional powers
Tho wouldn't with network resource allow him to use more than one time a day? Also if Alex improve his Furyoku amount and shaman skills can he constantly use Matamune without much limit, by the way I know this is late but can Alex improve how long he can use his chakra cloak and jinchuriki state from beyond just one hour if he improve chakra mastery?
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No probs. Been ages since I watched the show religiously. It might depending on how Zagan wants to play it. He does have a bit of Shard in his brain so maybe? Though the Shards probably become VERY INTERESTED. And Zion might try the Horse/Dog Talismans on Eden.
It just depends on how Zagan wants the Talisman to work or not then deciding if if the corona potentia is enough of a physical connection for the Dog Talisman to energize it.
No probs. Been ages since I watched the show religiously. It might depending on how Zagan wants to play it. He does have a bit of Shard in his brain so maybe? Though the Shards probably become VERY INTERESTED. And Zion might try the Horse/Dog Talismans on Eden.
It works on their bodies but not like Chi stuff or perfectly healthy physical alterations. And Shards a pure physical not nebulous energy. The issue being High Priest powers are just running low.
It just depends on how Zagan wants the Talisman to work or not then deciding if if the corona potentia is enough of a physical connection for the Dog Talisman to energize it.
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[X] Scubalrus
Dolly Fail Fail
Boss Leader
- Location
- Within dreams and memories
I don't have a particular opinion on the Remaster because I've not used Diveal much.
Now, as for the PvZ ones, I should clarify that I haven't played most of the games past the first, the franchise really spiraled into the gutter after the original. That being said, if we assume that every 'square' on the in-game lawn is a meter(which looks about right? Might honestly be larger than that but we'll go with the cautious estimate) then the Enforce-Mint can shrink 10 enemies within a 10x10(because the effect can stretch somewhat beyond the lawn) meter area, which we should be able to generally apply to other Mints in the future. It shrinks targets to roughly a third of their size, though foes who are already particularly small will "shrink to oblivion"(in other words, become so small they just can't live/exist). Shrunken targets become much weaker and more fragile in proportion with their decreased size.
There's no visible duration on the Shrinking effect, but PvZ also goes by pretty fast, so any duration longer than a few minutes would basically be impossible to notice, so you can set that to whatever you think is most fair. The shrinking also does not stack, so the same person can't be shrunk by an Enforce-Mint twice.
Now as for the Kiwibeast, it's a fairly simple one. Decently tough(tougher than the average person by a fair margin), and it will grow up to three times as large as it takes damage. It fights by slamming/stomping onto the ground with enough force to create small, damaging shockwaves. These are 1 meter in diameter at its base size, 3 meters in diameter at size 2, and 5 meters at size 3. Their power also increases with size, painful at size 1, going up to moderate injury at size 3.
When a Kiwibeast is within the Enforce-Mint's range, its shockwaves will become dramatically more powerful, three times as powerful in fact, though the range doesn't change, they could easily take down the average human with an indirect slam even at size 1 while boosted, let alone someone who was already shrunk.
If a Kiwibeast is fed a Plant Food(this is not currently relevant, we don't have a Power Lily to generate Plant Food for us to use) it will grow to maximum size instantly and slam around several times with dramatically magnified force, about five times as powerful. So that's uh... yeah that's death if it impacts most normal people directly. And this triples while under the effect of both Plant Food and an Enforce-Mint at the same time.
The reason it's still only worth 100 points of course is, well, it's not particularly powerful unless you have these other plants to buff it. It's just a decent tank with modest close-range offensive abilities without buffs.
That's about all I can give, hopefully it's helpful. Also, one last thing: all the plants in PvZ are sapient. Well, most of them, there might be a few that aren't, but the majority, including Enforce-Mint and Kiwibeast, are intelligent and capable of speech, because they almost all have quotes from themselves on their info cards, it's up to you how those quotes translate into personality though.
Now, as for the PvZ ones, I should clarify that I haven't played most of the games past the first, the franchise really spiraled into the gutter after the original. That being said, if we assume that every 'square' on the in-game lawn is a meter(which looks about right? Might honestly be larger than that but we'll go with the cautious estimate) then the Enforce-Mint can shrink 10 enemies within a 10x10(because the effect can stretch somewhat beyond the lawn) meter area, which we should be able to generally apply to other Mints in the future. It shrinks targets to roughly a third of their size, though foes who are already particularly small will "shrink to oblivion"(in other words, become so small they just can't live/exist). Shrunken targets become much weaker and more fragile in proportion with their decreased size.
There's no visible duration on the Shrinking effect, but PvZ also goes by pretty fast, so any duration longer than a few minutes would basically be impossible to notice, so you can set that to whatever you think is most fair. The shrinking also does not stack, so the same person can't be shrunk by an Enforce-Mint twice.
Now as for the Kiwibeast, it's a fairly simple one. Decently tough(tougher than the average person by a fair margin), and it will grow up to three times as large as it takes damage. It fights by slamming/stomping onto the ground with enough force to create small, damaging shockwaves. These are 1 meter in diameter at its base size, 3 meters in diameter at size 2, and 5 meters at size 3. Their power also increases with size, painful at size 1, going up to moderate injury at size 3.
When a Kiwibeast is within the Enforce-Mint's range, its shockwaves will become dramatically more powerful, three times as powerful in fact, though the range doesn't change, they could easily take down the average human with an indirect slam even at size 1 while boosted, let alone someone who was already shrunk.
If a Kiwibeast is fed a Plant Food(this is not currently relevant, we don't have a Power Lily to generate Plant Food for us to use) it will grow to maximum size instantly and slam around several times with dramatically magnified force, about five times as powerful. So that's uh... yeah that's death if it impacts most normal people directly. And this triples while under the effect of both Plant Food and an Enforce-Mint at the same time.
The reason it's still only worth 100 points of course is, well, it's not particularly powerful unless you have these other plants to buff it. It's just a decent tank with modest close-range offensive abilities without buffs.
That's about all I can give, hopefully it's helpful. Also, one last thing: all the plants in PvZ are sapient. Well, most of them, there might be a few that aren't, but the majority, including Enforce-Mint and Kiwibeast, are intelligent and capable of speech, because they almost all have quotes from themselves on their info cards, it's up to you how those quotes translate into personality though.
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- He
Resource network wouldn't apply because Alex's partner don't have Furyoku (or at least they can't access it) so Alex couldn't drain them to replenish his own reserve. But yes he could train it. (But he has bigger priority like Haki and Chakra)
The one-hour duration of the Jinchuriki state is dictated by the CM itself so it can't be trained. Summoning thrice a day changes that to a total of three hours. The only way to increase that is the Chakra Adept class given by the Dungeon but we need to finish Dungeon Master first.
The Horse could heal Eden, yes, provided it's applied to her "main" body. It might not be a good idea to tell that to Scion.
The Dog "just" give a very powerful Brute rating almost like Alexandria.
Thank you that helped a lot. So the Mint is a cross between a creature and a Modifier. Just to confirm both the Mint and the Kiwibeast are anchored to the ground? They cannot move.
I also have a question concerning Kageroumaru. I assume that he can use all the techniques of a Canine Bunshin but the wiki mentions that he created the Canine Bunshin. Is that right? Any limit?
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- Location
- Within dreams and memories
The mint is, but Kiwibeast is show to be able to jump and hop. It doesn't use it to relocate in-game, but it's visibly not stuck in place. I deemed it as one of the plants that would be unacceptably weak if it was stationary.
As for Kageroumaru the Genshin wiki has changed some things around, he actually has his own page but they moved it. That being said, it can be assumed he probably does also have the Dendro Prison technique even though he doesn't use it in his boss-fight(it's already in an enclosed space, no need to make a slightly smaller one I guess?)
If I read that the Canine Bunshin were clones and not just disciples when making the category, Kageroumaru would have probably gone up a tier or two, sorry, that was a reading comprehension error on my part. I don't necessarily know how many can be active at a time, I didn't and never can play the event those enemies came from, because it was ended before I started playing Genshin.
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Shaman king info since Alex now becoming a shaman:
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Shaman King Why Furyoku is Better Than Reiryoku
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Shaman King Why Furyoku is Better Than Reiryoku
Shaman (Shaman King)
"A Shaman is a link between the physical and the spiritual worlds. If you ever need my help, just ask." -Yoh Asakura A Shaman (シャーマン shāman) is an individual who who can connect with the world of spirits and gods. This allows them to perform many supernatural abilities such as taking the skills...
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Hey @zagan I just remembered there's two last butcher team member not yet imprison, that Vex and Spree are they still running around in BB trying to find a way to free the butcher and others by working with merchants right? Oh by the way current the merchant should have squeeler, Skidmark, trainwreck(coil's spy) and Whirlygig with Mush being imprison. Just trying to keep track of the villains within BB. There's the ABB with Lung, Oni Lee and Bakuda, undersiders(unknownly working for Coil) with Grue, regent, Bitch, and tattletale, Coil and his mercenaries, two members of the The Adepts visiting wanting to meet Alex.
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Vex and Spree were caught with the Butcher after losing against the ABB.
Shit you right I forgot it been a while, I'm already forgetting I'm going to re-read some chapters
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Really the only Teeth left are probably some non cape members sulking with the Merchants.
Yeah maybe I'll see if I can make a list of villain capes that active or arrested just to keep track of them and the chapter it happened
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Okay, I've finished exploiting the results of the last vote, and the various consequences they have.
You can have a look here. Don't hesitate to give feedback if you see an error.
Power:
-[300]-[Jackie Chan Adventures]-Rabbit Talisman
-Furyoku: You gain acces to your Furyoku and can manipulate it to create an Oversoul for any Spirit you may possess. Furyoku amount: 100 (Available Spirit: Matamune)
-Diveal Swim Ability: This allows you to swim faster than normal and it's less tiring for you.
Creatures:
-[300]-[V: Danny Phantom]-Cujo: Name - Cujo
-[300]-[Fakemon]-Duplicat: Name - Replica
-[300]-[Plants vs Zombies]-Enforce-Mint: Name - Perfor
-[100]-[Plants vs Zombies]-Kiwibeast: Name - Stompy
-[300]-[Monsuno]-Mysticblade: Name - Mysticblade
-[300]-[Kid Icarus]-Divine Bow: Name - None
-[300]-[Enter the Gungeon]-Blank Companion's Ring: Name - None
-[300]-[Shaman King]-Matamune: Name - Matamune
-[300]-[Genshin Impact]-Kageroumaru: Name - Kageroumaru
-[300]-[Cassette Beasts]-Diveal: Name - Cousteau
Weapon:
-Cujo: Spiked Fist
-Duplicat: Buckler Shield
-Enforce-Mint: Leaf Fan
-Kiwibeast: Hammer
-Mysticblade: Katana
-Matamune: Katana
-Kageroumaru: Tanto
-Diveal: Trident
Vehicle:
-Cujo: Monster Truck
-Duplicat: Segway Drift Skates
-Mysticblade: Fantasy Jet
-Kageroumaru: Parallel Two Wheels Skateboard
-Diveal: Sea Bike
Item:
-Cujo: Squeaky Toy
-Duplicat: Mirror Herb
-Enforce-Mint: Normal mint leaves
-Kiwibeast: Normal Kiwifruits
-Mysticblade: Feathers
-Divine Bow: Sacred Tree Wood
-Kageroumaru: Shuriken
-Diveal: Plastic
Senses:
-Cujo: Sense strength of Ghost
-Duplicat: Smell
-Enforce-Mint: Detect Sunlight
-Kiwibeast: Detect Sunlight
-Mysticblade: Smell
-Matamune: Smell
-Kageroumaru: Smell
-Diveal: Underwater Vision
You can have a look here. Don't hesitate to give feedback if you see an error.
Power:
-[300]-[Jackie Chan Adventures]-Rabbit Talisman
-Furyoku: You gain acces to your Furyoku and can manipulate it to create an Oversoul for any Spirit you may possess. Furyoku amount: 100 (Available Spirit: Matamune)
-Diveal Swim Ability: This allows you to swim faster than normal and it's less tiring for you.
Creatures:
-[300]-[V: Danny Phantom]-Cujo: Name - Cujo
-[300]-[Fakemon]-Duplicat: Name - Replica
Genderless
Type: Normal
Level 5
Ability: Prankster
Held Item:
Move Prepared:
1: Glare
2: Copycat
3: Double Team
4: Feint
Moves Know:
-Feint (Egg Move)
-Glare
-Copycat
-Double Team
Height: 0.6m (1.11 ft)
Weight: 7.2kg (15.9 lbs)
Type: Normal
Level 5
Ability: Prankster
Held Item:
Move Prepared:
1: Glare
2: Copycat
3: Double Team
4: Feint
Moves Know:
-Feint (Egg Move)
-Glare
-Copycat
-Double Team
Height: 0.6m (1.11 ft)
Weight: 7.2kg (15.9 lbs)
Level 1/10
Every 85 seconds can generate a circular area of effect 10 m in radius that last for eighth seconds.
Up to ten beings at a time entering this effect are shrunk to a third of their size for two minutes.
Give boost to melee plants (Kiwibeast) when they are within the 10 m of it.
Every 85 seconds can generate a circular area of effect 10 m in radius that last for eighth seconds.
Up to ten beings at a time entering this effect are shrunk to a third of their size for two minutes.
Give boost to melee plants (Kiwibeast) when they are within the 10 m of it.
Level 1/10
At full health is the size of a large dog, when lightly wounded double in size and when severely wounded triple in size.
Every two seconds on the groundgnerating a shockwave dealing damage to enemy that are close by. (1m, 3m, or 5m depending on its size).
At full health is the size of a large dog, when lightly wounded double in size and when severely wounded triple in size.
Every two seconds on the groundgnerating a shockwave dealing damage to enemy that are close by. (1m, 3m, or 5m depending on its size).
-[300]-[Kid Icarus]-Divine Bow: Name - None
-[300]-[Enter the Gungeon]-Blank Companion's Ring: Name - None
-[300]-[Shaman King]-Matamune: Name - Matamune
-[300]-[Genshin Impact]-Kageroumaru: Name - Kageroumaru
Can generate one Canine Bunshin at a time but must remain focused while doing so.
Techniques:
Thunderwheels: Launches three spinning wheels of electricity in different directions
Canine Art: Plummeting Blade: Teleports to a target location and marks an area around it, calling down thunder and dealing damage in the marked area shortly after.
Canine Art: Geo Bunshin: When attacked, teleports away and leaves a Bunshin Bomb at its original location that marks an area around it before detonating, dealing fire damage in the marked area.
Dendro Prison: Upon initiating a fight, summons a square barrier made of Thorn vines around the target. The barrier does not deal damage.
Techniques:
Thunderwheels: Launches three spinning wheels of electricity in different directions
Canine Art: Plummeting Blade: Teleports to a target location and marks an area around it, calling down thunder and dealing damage in the marked area shortly after.
Canine Art: Geo Bunshin: When attacked, teleports away and leaves a Bunshin Bomb at its original location that marks an area around it before detonating, dealing fire damage in the marked area.
Dendro Prison: Upon initiating a fight, summons a square barrier made of Thorn vines around the target. The barrier does not deal damage.
Male
Type: Water
Level: 5
Moves:
-Spit
-Ice Coating
-Elemental Wall
Learnset:
lvl9: Torrent
lvl13: Ice Resistance
lvl17: Ice Breaker
lvl21: Undertow + Remaster into Scubalrus
Type: Water
Level: 5
Moves:
-Spit
-Ice Coating
-Elemental Wall
Learnset:
lvl9: Torrent
lvl13: Ice Resistance
lvl17: Ice Breaker
lvl21: Undertow + Remaster into Scubalrus
Weapon:
-Cujo: Spiked Fist
-Duplicat: Buckler Shield
-Enforce-Mint: Leaf Fan
-Kiwibeast: Hammer
-Mysticblade: Katana
-Matamune: Katana
-Kageroumaru: Tanto
-Diveal: Trident
Vehicle:
-Cujo: Monster Truck
-Duplicat: Segway Drift Skates
-Mysticblade: Fantasy Jet
-Kageroumaru: Parallel Two Wheels Skateboard
-Diveal: Sea Bike
Item:
-Cujo: Squeaky Toy
-Duplicat: Mirror Herb
-Enforce-Mint: Normal mint leaves
-Kiwibeast: Normal Kiwifruits
-Mysticblade: Feathers
-Divine Bow: Sacred Tree Wood
-Kageroumaru: Shuriken
-Diveal: Plastic
Senses:
-Cujo: Sense strength of Ghost
-Duplicat: Smell
-Enforce-Mint: Detect Sunlight
-Kiwibeast: Detect Sunlight
-Mysticblade: Smell
-Matamune: Smell
-Kageroumaru: Smell
-Diveal: Underwater Vision
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- He/Him
While I realize it would not work that way, I cannot help but think that Cujo's Ghost Sense triggering seemingly randomly as Alex goes about town would make for an interesting plot hook. Just the idea that his Powers react to and prove the existence of the lingering dead intrigues me; how would Alex deal with the information? Are any of his colleagues haunted? It is an aspect I doubt would ever be explored in the main story given everything else that is going on but I am curious what other people think of the idea.
Also, @zagan this has been bothering me for a while but how does Cujo, and for that matter Matamune, get around the 'no undead' rule of the Menagerie? Aren't they both technically dead? Or does their current state of existence count as some form of reincarnation, essentially being 'born' again as beings of ectoplasm and reiryoku respectively?
Incidentally, does having furyoku unlock a potential Shaman Class for Alex from Nimue? I cannot see people going for it but presumably it exists.
Also, @zagan this has been bothering me for a while but how does Cujo, and for that matter Matamune, get around the 'no undead' rule of the Menagerie? Aren't they both technically dead? Or does their current state of existence count as some form of reincarnation, essentially being 'born' again as beings of ectoplasm and reiryoku respectively?
Incidentally, does having furyoku unlock a potential Shaman Class for Alex from Nimue? I cannot see people going for it but presumably it exists.
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- france
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- He
While it could be funny, it's not something I would do. Even ignoring the fact that I already have a lot of plot hooks to handle, I honestly, well hate is a strong word, let's say dislike the concept of power contamination that can be seen in some fics.
The best example is Projection Quest on SB, the idea of Shinigami/Hollow, Dust, Kung Fu Animals, and so on suddenly manifesting in the world just because the protagonist got access to a foreign setting's powers is wrong to me. It detracts from the story and adds unnecessary complication.
So you can be sure that's something I will never do. Not on that scale at least. The Dungeon Classes we currently have is probably my limit.
In that case, I see it more as a transformation, a change of state, and yes rebirth than an undeath state. Particularly since it was a natural process for them, not an artificial one like a Necromancer raising Zombies.
While that could be cool, I do not know enough about the setting to go about creating a class just for it. But if you propose a well-made one similar to the ones I made I would be willing to add it to the options available.
They are ghost making thing far different than a projection and their existence is different than one. Like a different form of life/sentient beings.
I mean nothing can fight against a ghost even projections. So best to keep them how they are. Also furyoku for the shaman and reiyoku for the guardian spirit/ghosts.
I mean nothing can fight against a ghost even projections. So best to keep them how they are. Also furyoku for the shaman and reiyoku for the guardian spirit/ghosts.