Not actually voting on this one but just to play devils advocate on the Serbian. It would be extremely useful cause the Serbian can merge with something making it invulnerable. He could be invulnerable 24/7
Summoner Quest (Celestial Menagerie)
- Thread starter zagan
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- Crossover IC
How? Since when?
Yeah it's one of their powers they can basically share their invincibility with anyone or anything they touch.
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- france
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- He
That reminds me I'm going through the CM currently, looking for entries that need to have their price modified, up or down, and the Siberian is on the list, going up to 700 or 800 not sure yet. With that in mind, even if it's not in effect yet, I would veto taking the Siberian.
Oh well either way I'm still dead set on exchanging our Deathbringer since there is nothing else we really have that I want to trade away, even Star has a niche use as an emergency capture tool.
[X] 0 Exchange
- Location
- Wisconsin
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- He/Him
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But that isn't merging. That's touching. You said merging. Having Compendium hood hands with The Siberian isn't going to go over well.
With non lethal power we should be able to use that one more.
@zagan
How much training to get Septiania to be able to manipulate water up to Leviathan scale? Zilla to 1 vs 1 Behemoth?
Even if the Non-Lethal power helps on that front still not really something I want to bring out in public and his size still makes him awkward to actually use effectively street level pretty much why for my list I went for human size or smaller Summons that were still powerhouses because we may want to bring something powerful indoors.
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AntaeusTheGiant
Child of Gaea
- Location
- Lawrence, KS
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There are a couple of 300 pt creatures that I am awfully fond of that haven't been mentioned yet, so I foresee a lot of discussion around this issue, probably followed by disappointment for me lol. I'll try not to get too salty when my creature(s) loose horribly...
anyway, my two favorites are Luggage (Discworld), and Cheshire Cat. Those of you who have read the earlier books of the Discworld series know what a wonderful and useful being the Luggage is. Those of you who haven't read it, please consider doing so at your earliest opportunity. The number of books may be intimidating at first, but the Luggage appears prominently in a lot of the earlier ones. The books themselves are a treat. As for the Cheshire cat, well, we certainly need more whimsey and sarcasm in this story...
There are a couple of 300 pt creatures that I am awfully fond of that haven't been mentioned yet, so I foresee a lot of discussion around this issue, probably followed by disappointment for me lol. I'll try not to get too salty when my creature(s) loose horribly...
anyway, my two favorites are Luggage (Discworld), and Cheshire Cat. Those of you who have read the earlier books of the Discworld series know what a wonderful and useful being the Luggage is. Those of you who haven't read it, please consider doing so at your earliest opportunity. The number of books may be intimidating at first, but the Luggage appears prominently in a lot of the earlier ones. The books themselves are a treat. As for the Cheshire cat, well, we certainly need more whimsey and sarcasm in this story...
Yeah if anyone wants to bring up more 300 point creatures I may have missed because I overlooked something or the setting was unfamiliar with me to trade for it I'm down for it hell I was even tempted to put more Pokemon on my list or a Digi Egg for a free Veemon but those require training and we don't have time for that right now with this Gang War going on.
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From what i remember from the series, harvest is actually a terrifyingly powerful stand for something so small, if numerous. A nightmare of a stand for villains given its ability to inject liquids into a targets bloodstream directly. The original user got two highschoolers drunk by injecting alcohol. Now imagine if it was a highly potent poison instead, or some manner of tranquilizer. It is also an excellent searcher stand, able to gind all sorts of small objects over a city like coins, bills, lottery tickets... enemy bullets/energy packs. Just saying.
From what i remember from the series, harvest is actually a terrifyingly powerful stand for something so small, if numerous. A nightmare of a stand for villains given its ability to inject liquids into a targets bloodstream directly. The original user got two highschoolers drunk by injecting alcohol. Now imagine if it was a highly potent poison instead, or some manner of tranquilizer. It is also an excellent searcher stand, able to gind all sorts of small objects over a city like coins, bills, lottery tickets... enemy bullets/energy packs. Just saying.
Boo. Hey, are we first doing a vote on what to exchange and then what to get in return, or is it one vote where we choose both? Like
[~] A
then
[~] Z
or
[~] A --> Z
?
Likely the later.
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- france
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- He
Years.
Remember that Zilla and Sapientia are 600-point creatures while the Endbringers are at 800. It may look like only 200 points of difference but the difference in power level is significant. 800 points represent the maximum power level in the CM, just below the reality manipulator at 1000 points. (the 900 points are particular)
Let's take Sapientia. Here's a quote from the wiki:
| He is a fearsome beast whose natural element is that of water. Not only is he a powerful swimmer, but he can float on water, his mass notwithstanding, and can generate a vortex the size of a soccer field in the water, drawing his prey to the bottom. |
While it may seem impressive at first glance, in truth as far as water manipulation ability goes, that's pretty pathetic. No water jet, no water sprout, no water shaping, no water shield.
Now let's take the Accelerate Training power.
| Your creatures that are naturally able to grow in strength, gain more power or obtain more abilities with training and combat, do so at twice the normal rate. This mainly includes creatures from the following categories Pokémon, Digimon, Fell Seal, Monster Sanctuary, Kingdom Hearts, and Ni no Kuni. But it may apply to others if appropriate. In addition, this also removes any maximum level of training such creatures may possess. Finally, this power also grants the ability to more easily grow for your other creatures but at a slower rate. As an example, a normal bear could gain the strength and endurance of an elephant with sufficient time and training but he wouldn't gain any special power. |
There are two-part to this power, one that applies to creatures that can level up (like pokemon), they level up twice as fast and they can go beyond their level cap. This does not apply to Sapientia, we have no indication that it can grow stronger that way.
It's the second part that interests us, the ability to train beyond their normal limit for creatures that cannot normally level up.
In real life, even if one could convince a bear to make a hundred push up every day and to lift weights, there would come a point where it couldn't continue to improve. A biological limit.
Accelerate Training removes that limit but it does not allow the bear to develop new powers.
Now for Sapientia, if we want to improve its water manipulation ability, it would be possible because it's an ability it possesses.
It would start with training the speed at which it can generate its vortex, how long it can maintain them, and increasing or decreasing the size.
It could also include training to increase its speed underwater, by using the water to push it. Eventually, this could evolve into things like waterspout or water gun effect.
So while it's not impossible to have a Sapientia that could perfectly counter Leviathan. And with some supporting power like Magic Boost or others, it would be easier. It's not something that Alex would consider doing, it would take too long and too much energy for too little gain.
That said Sapientia does have an advantage on Leviathan in that its power is magic based so it trumps the dimensional fuckery used by the Endbrinbgers and the Shard in general. So even right now if Leviathan couldn't stop Sapientia from creating its vortex, preventing the Endbringer from manipulating the water that's in the vortex. It's not much but it could provide an area where its influence is slightly reduced.
It would be the last option. I don't want to stretch the voting period too much. And there are not many creatures that were mentioned as potentially tradeable.
can we change a creature for other things? Say, Deathstalker to halfvampire template from dnd. (A dr, str/dex/cha boost, a regen and a bonus to perception sounds like a nice brute/thinker power to up our survivability. And the children of the night ability sounds like it would be the subtrait that the managery would prioritize. meaning no pesky blood drinking.)
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On the one hand, I love the idea, we're currently lacking in modifiers (templates, variants) so that could be really nice.
On the other hand, I have no idea how I would justify it in the story with the lore of the CM.
A creature against a creature is easy, I just have the CM send an alert that X creature is critically endangered but that there's no room in the soul of the Keeper and propose to make a trade. Which Alex would accept of course.
If you can find a good justification for it, I'll allow it.
- Location
- Tarn-Vedra
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Chapter 122: Sub vote Part 2
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- france
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- He
With 15 votes for Exchange, I'm closing the voting period here.
This vote will use the following format:
[] Exchange X for Y
Please consult the Character Sheet for the list of our current creatures and the Google Doc for their respective cost.
Remember that you can only exchange creatures of the same cost or lower.
I reserved the right to veto some exchange possibilities, we won't be exchanging Aylamon or Olky.
edit: The Bonus Category are allowed but again I reserve a veto if I think it's a creature that I can't write about.
Voting will be closed Sunday at 3 PM GMT
This vote will use the following format:
[] Exchange X for Y
Please consult the Character Sheet for the list of our current creatures and the Google Doc for their respective cost.
Remember that you can only exchange creatures of the same cost or lower.
I reserved the right to veto some exchange possibilities, we won't be exchanging Aylamon or Olky.
edit: The Bonus Category are allowed but again I reserve a veto if I think it's a creature that I can't write about.
Voting will be closed Sunday at 3 PM GMT
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[X] Exchange Deathbringer for Harvest
[X] Exchange Deathbringer for Hierophant Green
[X] Exchange Deathbringer for Amperi
[X] Exchange Deathbringer for Necrofriggian
[X] Exchange Deathbringer for Petrosapien
[X] Exchange Deathbringer for Segmentasapien
[X] Exchange Deathbringer for Polymorph
[X] Exchange Deathbringer for Methanosian
[X] Exchange Deathbringer for Sparky
[] Exchange Deathbringer for Snafu
[X] Exchange Deathbringer for The Shield
[X] Exchange Deathbringer for The Dash
[X] Exchange Deathbringer for Kasugami
[X] Exchange Deathbringer for Astral Construct
Well got my List ready time to Exchange our Deathbringer for something that will be more readily useful.
Edit: Removing Snafu vote since he'll be hard to write around.
[X] Exchange Deathbringer for Hierophant Green
[X] Exchange Deathbringer for Amperi
[X] Exchange Deathbringer for Necrofriggian
[X] Exchange Deathbringer for Petrosapien
[X] Exchange Deathbringer for Segmentasapien
[X] Exchange Deathbringer for Polymorph
[X] Exchange Deathbringer for Methanosian
[X] Exchange Deathbringer for Sparky
[] Exchange Deathbringer for Snafu
[X] Exchange Deathbringer for The Shield
[X] Exchange Deathbringer for The Dash
[X] Exchange Deathbringer for Kasugami
[X] Exchange Deathbringer for Astral Construct
Well got my List ready time to Exchange our Deathbringer for something that will be more readily useful.
Edit: Removing Snafu vote since he'll be hard to write around.
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- UK
The biggest problem with Stands is the issue with damage being reflected onto the host. Unless it's quite an amazing combat stand like Dio's or JoJo's, they feel kinda redundant? We already have capable bodyguards without that problem. Maybe one that has less direct combat abilities?
I think we need some more summons with esoteric abilities anyways. For example Harry Potter has FiendFyre for 300 points. Cursed magical fire could potentially be damn useful.
[X] Exchange Deathbringer for Fiendfyre
I think we need some more summons with esoteric abilities anyways. For example Harry Potter has FiendFyre for 300 points. Cursed magical fire could potentially be damn useful.
[X] Exchange Deathbringer for Fiendfyre
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Y Draig Gosch
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[X] Exchange Deathbringer for The Dash
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Ah but the thing about Stands is that they can only be hurt by other Stands and are completely invisible to Non-Stand Users.
Stand
A Stand (スタンド, Sutando) is a visual manifestation of life energy (in other words, the manifestation of the soul of the user). A Stand is an entity psychically generated by its owner, referred to as a Stand User (スタンド使い, Sutando Tsukai).[1] It generally presents itself as a figure hovering over...
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