Summoner Quest (Celestial Menagerie)
- Thread starter zagan
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[X] How do you choose which creatures need saving?
[X] Creature
Creature Roll: (610 points)
Category Roll D50=29 Toriko/Bugsnax, Entry Roll D196=29
600 Denshark, 200 Devil Mosquito, 300 Devil Plant Horse
Category Roll D50=21 Modded Minecraft/Don't Starve, Entry Roll D215=193
50 Slurtle, 100 Snaptooth, 200 Snortoise
[X] Creature
Creature Roll: (610 points)
Category Roll D50=29 Toriko/Bugsnax, Entry Roll D196=29
600 Denshark, 200 Devil Mosquito, 300 Devil Plant Horse
Category Roll D50=21 Modded Minecraft/Don't Starve, Entry Roll D215=193
50 Slurtle, 100 Snaptooth, 200 Snortoise
Two creatures need some clarifications:
Details:
-Denshark: It can be summoned with any number of cars between one and a hundred. It can move beyond our summoning range as long as at least one car remain inside (the tail end for example.) Its Rest Room is extremely strong but does not work against the Endbringers.
-Snaptooth: It can be summoned at any stage of growth and it can grow naturally by eating. You can also order it to not grow.
-Snaptooth: It can be summoned at any stage of growth and it can grow naturally by eating. You can also order it to not grow.
[] 600 Denshark
[] 200 Devil Mosquito
[] 300 Devil Plant Horse
[] 50 Slurtle
[] 100 Snaptooth
[] 200 Snortoise
[] 200 Devil Mosquito + 50 Slurtle
[] 200 Devil Mosquito + 100 Snaptooth
[] 200 Devil Mosquito + 200 Snortoise
[] 300 Devil Plant Horse + 50 Slurtle
[] 300 Devil Plant Horse + 100 Snaptooth
[] 300 Devil Plant Horse + 200 Snortoise
[] Reject everything and keep points.
Voting will be closed Tuesday at 3 PM GMT
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That's a difficult question. It was in end easier to choose from Alex's perspective. Because as an Earth-Bet inhabitant, finding a solution to the Endbringers is priority number one.
As for me, as the author, I need to find something that I like that I want to write about but also that could be useful. And it makes for a better story if the hero can't just instant-kill its enemies.
I can't be sure that it would have been my real choice as I wrote but Phosphor seems like a good candidate.
No, that would remain in the hand of the quester. Alex didn't even have access to any meta power, they weren't include in the list.
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bit thorn. Den shark is great, it's fast (as fast as a train, so very), durable (can run around on the 100G mountain) and actually fairly strong (capture level 600+). So it's a transport that could acctually work in an endbringer battle. IT's stealth not working on the endbringers though...
that, lore vice, essentially means that the endbringers have a sense of smell. Fair enough.
So, how important is that high speed large volume transport ability for us?
If the stealth would work, the ability to transport large amount of people out of the combat area would soo make it worth it. as is, i will have to say not worth 600 points though.
While useless, i am not impressed with any of the other. The horse is nice, but not nice enough. And fuck mosquitoes.
I forgot just how absurd materials from torico is, high level sushi board is probably able to tank naval guns without a scratch. And it was able to dodge Toricos punches/blasts. oh, only lv 35. i take it back. it's sturdy, but we have better. Especially with Shadow as our ride.
[] 50 Slurtle
drops second strongest headgear in it's game, high health and a 95% damage reduction while in it's shell. sound like a steal, honnestly.
that, lore vice, essentially means that the endbringers have a sense of smell. Fair enough.
So, how important is that high speed large volume transport ability for us?
If the stealth would work, the ability to transport large amount of people out of the combat area would soo make it worth it. as is, i will have to say not worth 600 points though.
I forgot just how absurd materials from torico is, high level sushi board is probably able to tank naval guns without a scratch. And it was able to dodge Toricos punches/blasts.
[] 50 Slurtle
drops second strongest headgear in it's game, high health and a 95% damage reduction while in it's shell. sound like a steal, honnestly.
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As far as the lore of the Toriko series is concerned, the Stranger rating is high enough that it should be a match even for Imp's canon powers at it's strongest as it's said to capable of perfect stealth, so it's likely able to block even exotic senses like that of the shards, zion, and endbringers.
they aren't helpful in combat, but they are invalueble if you intend to avoid anything that doesn't have a sense of smell as sensitive as a bloodhound.
[X] 600 Denshark
We finally get done "good ones" and all I hear are complaints and needing to save. 6. Hundred. Points. Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.
Are you you sure you like this quest at all?
Are you actually trying intentionally to get an Entity to shut down this quest?
[X] 600 Denshark
[X] 300 Devil Plant Horse + 50 Slurtle
[X] 300 Devil Plant Horse + 200 Snortoise
Denshark cuz it's cool and useful to get people out of an Endbringer attack zone, Devil Plant Horse because it's flexible armor and strength. And the other 2 for armor and the Snortoise sounds awesome.
Are you you sure you like this quest at all?
Are you actually trying intentionally to get an Entity to shut down this quest?
[X] 600 Denshark
[X] 300 Devil Plant Horse + 50 Slurtle
[X] 300 Devil Plant Horse + 200 Snortoise
Denshark cuz it's cool and useful to get people out of an Endbringer attack zone, Devil Plant Horse because it's flexible armor and strength. And the other 2 for armor and the Snortoise sounds awesome.
they are highly useful. But my main problem is: it's a large size Stranger, when we are the PRT PR cavalry.
the role we have been chosen to play don't really have a use for such a stranger power, as the PRT uses us to bee seen and be such a threat that the other side disengages rather than face us.
If wee had been an independent? It would be a top pic, as we would suddenly be the threat that drops from a clear sky, and give us a solid disengaging option... well, even more than our teleport already makes/gives us. But with our defined starting position and fixed working hours, we don't really gain anything we couldn't already do with teleport. exept ofcourse mass transportation at high speed, as we would have a 2 km long train capable of parkour... soo yeah, i stand by my analysis. It's a great summon. but we would only really need it to evac people in situations where we would be expected to stay behind, or it's stealth wouldn't work (s9 and fallen wouldn't get the same kind of evac, so it doesn't really help us there)
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it was stated as not working on endbringers though. but i was tempted, for 4-500 i would have picked it.
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The Denshark is pretty fucking amazing, honestly. Sadly Worm is not really the perfect place for it. But it could be insane for endbringer transport.
While the Rest Room wouldn't affect them, it still could be amazing for future S-Class events.
It is a tough one. Slurtles are awesome too just for the effectiveness of their materials. The shells would make an incredible resource of material that Colin would love to play with. Same with the slime which could be used either as an explosive or as fuel.
I honestly don't know.
Of course, there is the matter of Toriko's particular thing; Gourmet Cells. Those things can turn people into super soldier tier fighters and eventually Shounen Protagonist level badasses.
The Denshark could supply shark fins for shark fin soup which would be amazingly potent considering its capture level.
Tough call.
Its a pity it was the Denshark that was rolled when some even more amazing ones are out there, but still its fucking awesome.
[X] 600 Denshark
[X] 50 Slurtle
While the Rest Room wouldn't affect them, it still could be amazing for future S-Class events.
It is a tough one. Slurtles are awesome too just for the effectiveness of their materials. The shells would make an incredible resource of material that Colin would love to play with. Same with the slime which could be used either as an explosive or as fuel.
I honestly don't know.
Of course, there is the matter of Toriko's particular thing; Gourmet Cells. Those things can turn people into super soldier tier fighters and eventually Shounen Protagonist level badasses.
The Denshark could supply shark fins for shark fin soup which would be amazingly potent considering its capture level.
Tough call.
Its a pity it was the Denshark that was rolled when some even more amazing ones are out there, but still its fucking awesome.
[X] 600 Denshark
[X] 50 Slurtle
Precisely. Alex. Is. The. Calvary. The. Backup. When Alex comes in the tide turns for whatever side Alex represents. We have plenty of offensive Creatures. But we have niether a pure defensive Creatures nor one that can aquire numerous civilians and injured and keep them safe in a warzone, let alone rapidly transport so many to safety.
Denshark fills that gap perfectly.
What the hell could anyone want better? And don't tell me that there are other better 600s. Because we didn't roll them therefore they don't matter. That's the same logic for waiting for this 6 hundred roll. Yet all I hear is more of the same old complaining.
What we got is what we can get.
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how many points was that choice worth for the MC, since i'm pretty sure it wasn't above 500 points?
I's great, but the maximum range we can leverage it's evac power from us is either 1 km from a single spot or us (anchored), giving it a 3 km radius (not really enough to evac out of the dangerzone) or up to 4 km by relaying it from an anchored creature.
4 km is... not alot when it comes to evac. We would have to acctually work evac for it to be able to fullfil it's roll, and we would be needed at the front.
but it would be great in the aftermath, when we can step away for 15 min, and that i would be happy to pay out 4-500 points for, but for 600 i would want something that is usefull during an s class event. And we sadly don't have the power for making it able to autonomously do evac without us, wich is what it would need for me to chose it.
But i was very tempted
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ooooh this is a very, very hard choice, they have are all incredibly usefull especialy since we have material harvesting
lest start with what we can successfully eliminate, the snortoise has very little usefull abilities, especially since it causes omnidirectional damage, making its deployment alongside anything else impossible
the snaptooth produces nothing particularly valuable, even the vegetable meat is pretty worthless as you can just replace with regulat meat
the slurtle though, has a percentage based defense, can be used to produce armor and produces fuel and explosives, alongside the ability to digest minerals, making it the ideal cleaning creature, probably capable of cleaning soil irradiated by behemoth, along other dangerous minerals that the PRT may have need of disposal
that's not even considering it can be used to make a helmet that absorbs 90% of damage, that alone makes it a better creature than the other two by itself
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now the Toriko creatures are the real challenge
the mosquito is one of the best anti-brutes possible, since the nigh universal need of capes to need oxygen likely also applies to oxygen in blood, alongside a massive boost to elytra if she joins the wards, since it's large enough to be ridden, being more agile than atlas, though much more unstable
the devil plant horse is especially useful as a material harvest source, as the armor is easily enough to make armor for the entire PRT ENE
the shark though, it's the one mass transport we are likely to get especially one for so many people and with so much speed, since those will be very difficult to come by in the menagerie, I say we have to take it since it's not like we can get a similar one
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[x]600 Denshark
honestly the denshak is useful enough as a train even without the stranger effect, few powers lend themselves to mass evac, heck strider was one of the most important capes in the world with just global teleportation for ~10 people at the time
if that fail then:
[x] 200 Devil Mosquito + 50 Slurtle
slurtle is great too, shame i can't choose him and the denshark
honestly the denshak is useful enough as a train even without the stranger effect, few powers lend themselves to mass evac, heck strider was one of the most important capes in the world with just global teleportation for ~10 people at the time
if that fail then:
[x] 200 Devil Mosquito + 50 Slurtle
slurtle is great too, shame i can't choose him and the denshark
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That was stated when the voting was started for it.
You're forgetting that Denshark has the caveat that only 1 train car has to be in our range. The rest can extend as far as 100 train cars. Which can cover ALOT of area. Add to the fact that it can hold hundreds of people, create a Rest Area and can fight at a Capture Level of 605 which puts nearly any Parahuman to shame? It can ward of attacks from it's charges pretty damn well I'd say!
Not to mention the transportation of goods and resources for disaster areas.
A Capture Level of 605 is already beyond the level ok f the common humans. 15 would already require significant PRT personel and equipment to stop. And threaten a Kill order on the Biotinker responsible!
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Or the fact we can assign it to a Search and Rescue professional and they or Alex just can sit in the front or the back and your main concern isn't a concern but needless nitpicking!
This is the higher summon!
@zagan how good would this Denshark be in disaster relief transport civilians, injured and other stuff that I said above? How stupid are we not to take it?
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I made the calcs assuming the denshark has the stats similar to the first shinkansen bullet train and that we need to move people at least 20 km inland to be safer
assuming we only have a 15-minute head start on leviathan, and that we don't get other summons feeling it before then, or get better warnings of any kind
it has 5x the length of the shinkansen, so it can likely carry 5x the passengers, that is 6700 people per travel, at 20 km distance we need to arrive at a safe zone
this means we can save 20,000 people from an endbringer with this summon alone, given that Brockton bay is smaller than Boston then we may save 5% of the people in Brockton, at the lowest end
if we cut the distance in half (10 km) to make the denshark speed buffs to be as fast as the fastest train on earth, and assume it has a subway configuration which could house 200 people per cart, raising the total number to 16,000 passages total, with trips taking a minute and embarking also taking a minute it could make 7 trips by the time the endbringer made landfall,
it could save up to 112,000 people
even more, if we count that only about half of Brockton bay was destroyed between the docks and crater lake, so we can likely save even more
and whilst the denshark can't kill leviathan, it can definitely survive it whilst protecting people
Americans need to respect trains more
assuming we only have a 15-minute head start on leviathan, and that we don't get other summons feeling it before then, or get better warnings of any kind
it has 5x the length of the shinkansen, so it can likely carry 5x the passengers, that is 6700 people per travel, at 20 km distance we need to arrive at a safe zone
this means we can save 20,000 people from an endbringer with this summon alone, given that Brockton bay is smaller than Boston then we may save 5% of the people in Brockton, at the lowest end
if we cut the distance in half (10 km) to make the denshark speed buffs to be as fast as the fastest train on earth, and assume it has a subway configuration which could house 200 people per cart, raising the total number to 16,000 passages total, with trips taking a minute and embarking also taking a minute it could make 7 trips by the time the endbringer made landfall,
it could save up to 112,000 people
even more, if we count that only about half of Brockton bay was destroyed between the docks and crater lake, so we can likely save even more
and whilst the denshark can't kill leviathan, it can definitely survive it whilst protecting people
Americans need to respect trains more
fair enough. And seeing how it can drive around in gormet world, it doesn't need tracks and can handle harsh terrain, possibly even driving over houses...
[x] 600 Denshark
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And don't forget! It's final car is big enough to contain a Mothersnake!
Mother Snake
Check the link. It's so damn huge that it is called a Mothersnake for the some reason MOAB is called the Mother Of All Bombs!
So add that plus the fact that if the goal is to get people the F out of Dodge and not worry about comfort then Denshark can get a hell of alot more out and away! Or tons of materials and personel in!
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