HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
You can definitively try!
The Quirks look near from my end. :]
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Strangers in a Strange Sphere - [Battletech]
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The Quirks look near from my end. :]
Cant wait to see it with these we are getting closer to making mobile suits.
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when did we get XL engines? cos if we have it, i have some mechs to update.
A what-if we get said tech in the future. And I'd rather not slap an IS XL Engine on something that gets up close and goes stabby-stabby unless the Engine changes to IS Light Engine or Clan XL Engine, the latter of which is impossible unless that Bull Shark is canon over the Aurigan Coalition.
We don't this is like @DiscordOxymoron said a what-if. but we just finished reverse engineering the fusion engine so you can still update your design.
Yeah the i agree this is just the first version and i'm really hoping with our tech and not being held down by the 80s is future, we can invent something better than Clan XL engine.
Also @HeroCooky can we make a more thorough mind machine interface?. Maybe suspend the pilot body in amiotic fluid and various life support systems with various cables directly connnecting the pilots brain and nervous system into the mech so they don't just pilot the mech the mech they are the mech and it becomes their own body their thinking and reaction time are enhaced by the sensors and computers they can see and react to the bullets and missiles fired at them and can literally dodge them. And for the benefits maybe they can have elite piloting and gunnery from the get go?.
Also we can we increase the armour points in our cockpit? we dont need windows with our far better sensors and camera heck we probably can put our cockpit on our torso and either remove the head or use it as something else far less important no headcapping our mech.
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Yeah, about that... and a reminder:
Inner Sphere Technology is Superior in terms of Metallurgy, Energy (Creation+Weaponry), and Machinery (Myomer+Durability), Inferior in terms of Electronics, Coding, and Weaponry (All Energy Excluded).
I don't think we'll be closing the gap anytime soon... I'd really like to get Hardened Armor so that we can Patchwork it to the head, allowing it to go from 9 armor with 3 Internals to 18 Armor with 3 Internal but alas. Not even an AC/20 will headcap you at that rate though anything with 21 damage or the likes or a cockpit crit (yes, it can happen)... @_@;
And I'd rather the Quads be used as Newbie Rides, the -2 Piloting Skills are no joke (when you still have all legs, and you start incurring penalties once you lose at least two legs compared to a Bipedal Mech's one? Not sure on Tripods and their pecularities, but I do know designs that aren't Superheavy still requires two pilots which can be interesting like a Gunner and Mover thingy going on). Though I think the one thing I'd like to give said design the quirk is Extended Torso-Twist, allowing it to rotate from left to right similar to a Bipedal design. Quads can also hunker down, making them harder to hit, thus making them better as long range attackers like a Missile Boat or a Sniper. Head is iffy right now with a headache so not really sure what to design the Quad for. Maybe add in Animal/Beastial Appearance as a Jaguar to help appease Sigar IV and Arcanum due to the different clan name? Not sure though.
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HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
10 Tons for +1 to all skills.
Damm i guess we are only pilots then 3 times the weight of regular cockpits is not really worth it for a +1 to everything but i will try to make a mech using this cockpit.
Ok here's the promised mech
Singularity
??? UNSC Medium
Original: Battletech - Mech Factory
Source: My Own Custom /
Type/Model: Singularity
Tech: UNSC / ???
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 4, Experimental design
Mass: 55 tons
Chassis:
Power Plant: 275 Fusion
Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Running Speed: 86.4 km/h
Armor Type: Standard
Armament:
1 Medium Coilgun
1 MML3
1 Light Coilgun
Manufacturer:
Location:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:
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Type/Model: Singularity
Mass: 55 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 91 pts Standard 0 5.50
Engine: 275 Fusion 6 15.50
Walking MP: 5
Running MP: 8
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 10 Single 0 0.00
XL Gyro: 6 1.50
Fully Immersive Mind Machine Interface, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 10.00
L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 8 0.00
Armor Factor: 185 Standard 0 12.00
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 18 28
Center Torso (Rear): 8
L/R Side Torso: 13 21/21
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 5/5
L/R Arm: 9 18/18
L/R Leg: 13 26/26
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 Autocannon/2 LA 0 35 4 5.50 (Ammo Locations: 1 LA)
1 MML3 LT 2 40 3 2.50
(Ammo Locations: 1 LT)
1 Light Coilgun RA 0 50 2 2.50
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TOTALS: 18 3 10.50
Crits and Tons Left: 38 0.00
Calculated Factors
Total Cost: 4,718,407 C-Bill
Battle Value (BV1):767
Battle Value (BV2):999
??? UNSC Medium
Original: Battletech - Mech Factory
Source: My Own Custom /
Type/Model: Singularity
Tech: UNSC / ???
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 4, Experimental design
Mass: 55 tons
Chassis:
Power Plant: 275 Fusion
Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Running Speed: 86.4 km/h
Armor Type: Standard
Armament:
1 Medium Coilgun
1 MML3
1 Light Coilgun
Manufacturer:
Location:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:
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Type/Model: Singularity
Mass: 55 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 91 pts Standard 0 5.50
Engine: 275 Fusion 6 15.50
Walking MP: 5
Running MP: 8
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 10 Single 0 0.00
XL Gyro: 6 1.50
Fully Immersive Mind Machine Interface, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 10.00
L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 8 0.00
Armor Factor: 185 Standard 0 12.00
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 18 28
Center Torso (Rear): 8
L/R Side Torso: 13 21/21
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 5/5
L/R Arm: 9 18/18
L/R Leg: 13 26/26
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 Autocannon/2 LA 0 35 4 5.50 (Ammo Locations: 1 LA)
1 MML3 LT 2 40 3 2.50
(Ammo Locations: 1 LT)
1 Light Coilgun RA 0 50 2 2.50
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TOTALS: 18 3 10.50
Crits and Tons Left: 38 0.00
Calculated Factors
Total Cost: 4,718,407 C-Bill
Battle Value (BV1):767
Battle Value (BV2):999
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HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
Looks neat.
spotted a minor mistake.
Edit: also didn't know the AC2 weighed the same as medium CoilGuns, will be using that trick myself.
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Just remember to add the handheld quirk and the coilguns weigh 5 tons and the additional ton is the ammo.
Ok I done the Rattenkönig now for the other one
Here's my attempt at making this mobile suit.
???? UNSC Octoped drone hub
Original: Battletech - Mech Factory
Source: My Own Custom /
Type/Model:
Tech: UNSC / ???
Config: Octoped BattleMech
Rules: Level 3, Advanced design
Mass: 100 tons
Chassis:
Power Plant: 200 Fusion
Walking Speed: (21.6 km/h) 32.4 km/h
Running Speed: (32.4 km/h) 54.0 km/h
Armor Type: Standard
Armament:
3 MML9
1 Medium Coilgin
1 Drone Bay
Manufacturer: ????
Location: ????
Communications System: ????
Targeting and Tracking System: ????
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Type/Model:
Mass: 100 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 160 pts Standard 0 10.00
Engine: 200 Fusion 6 8.50
Walking MP: 2
Running MP: 3
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 10 Single 2 0.00
XL Gyro: 6 1.00
Fully Immersive Mind Machine Interface , Life Supt., Sensors ECM/ECCM: 5 10.00
N/A 0 0.00
Armor Factor: 323 Standard 0 20.50
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Torso: 32 67
Leg pair 1: 16 32/32
Leg pair 2: 16 32/32
Leg pair 3: 16 32/32
Leg pair 4: 16 32/32
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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3 MML9 T 10 39/22 13 23.00
(Ammo Locations: 5 T)
1 Medium coilgun T 35 4 6.00
(Ammo Locations: 1 T)
CASE Equipment: T 0 1 0.50
Cargo Bay T 0 0 0.50
1 Drone Bay T 0(144) ? 20
1 BattleMech Turret (Quad) T 0 1
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TOTALS: 0 ? 50.00
Crits and Tons Left: ??? 00.00
Calculated Factors
Total Cost: ???? C-Bill
Battle Value (BV1):????
Battle Value (BV2):????
Original: Battletech - Mech Factory
Source: My Own Custom /
Type/Model:
Tech: UNSC / ???
Config: Octoped BattleMech
Rules: Level 3, Advanced design
Mass: 100 tons
Chassis:
Power Plant: 200 Fusion
Walking Speed: (21.6 km/h) 32.4 km/h
Running Speed: (32.4 km/h) 54.0 km/h
Armor Type: Standard
Armament:
3 MML9
1 Medium Coilgin
1 Drone Bay
Manufacturer: ????
Location: ????
Communications System: ????
Targeting and Tracking System: ????
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Type/Model:
Mass: 100 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 160 pts Standard 0 10.00
Engine: 200 Fusion 6 8.50
Walking MP: 2
Running MP: 3
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 10 Single 2 0.00
XL Gyro: 6 1.00
Fully Immersive Mind Machine Interface , Life Supt., Sensors ECM/ECCM: 5 10.00
N/A 0 0.00
Armor Factor: 323 Standard 0 20.50
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Torso: 32 67
Leg pair 1: 16 32/32
Leg pair 2: 16 32/32
Leg pair 3: 16 32/32
Leg pair 4: 16 32/32
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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3 MML9 T 10 39/22 13 23.00
(Ammo Locations: 5 T)
1 Medium coilgun T 35 4 6.00
(Ammo Locations: 1 T)
CASE Equipment: T 0 1 0.50
Cargo Bay T 0 0 0.50
1 Drone Bay T 0(144) ? 20
1 BattleMech Turret (Quad) T 0 1
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TOTALS: 0 ? 50.00
Crits and Tons Left: ??? 00.00
Calculated Factors
Total Cost: ???? C-Bill
Battle Value (BV1):????
Battle Value (BV2):????
Accurate weapons, Improved Targeting (Long), Improved Targeting (Medium), Improved Targeting (Short), Improved Sensors, Improved Communications, Improved Life Support, Easy to pilot, Narrow/Low Profile, Combat Computer, Command mech, Stable, Stabilized Weapons, Battle computers, Multi trac, Wall Climber, Cockpit Intergrated ECM/ECCM.
Ok so we have 49.5 tons left and we're going to use it for drone hubs and over the horizon missile batteries and with the javelin being 15 kg per missile so maybe our missiles could weigh around 100kg? And had coilgun launchers also how much damage our missiles do? 10? 15? also are the missiles fired up then find their way to the target like in warships or is it in a turret? As for the drone hub its up to you @HeroCooky.
So i think i know how we use the Immersive Mind Machine interface as a one man hivemind of death swarming their enemies with an army of drones and missiles.
Also is this okay for the octopedal drone advantages?
Octopedal drone: the Walking speed gets an additional +1 movement point so an octopedal 2/3 mech will move 3/5 MP. And the cockpit is buried in the torso so the structure and armour point are transferred to it.
Ok so we can make the drone with our tech right now but we definitely shouldn't lets just wait for our mech technology to mature first then we built this Mech and if we can also add more stealth likelike null signature or stealth armour so our enemies hate us even more.
Also @HeroCooky if you can, can you tell me more variants of the mobilesuit so I can make mech versions of it. this is the closest thing to my dream of us having the mobile suit.
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HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
Temind yourself that the answers are non-canonical and will have no impact in the Quest.
IS standard.
20 Tons. 144 Drones of various configurations.
Why not.
No, those were the only ones I bothered to think up.
HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
No. You never expected to fight in high-G environments where artillery is required, so the Furina doesn't have that. Your planets also got none because they are too primitive.
Ok then sad that i cannot make more mobile suit expies but it is probably for the best i wasted a lot of time doing this.
Also we probably need to invest on making better and longer ranged missiles if our missiles only deal Innersphere standard and honestly i thought that our missiles are much better with us having better weapons beside energy but its okay you win some you lose some and we probably needed to develop our industry anyway so hope we can have hypersonic missiles in the future.
Well at least the we still have the ortillery so its not the end of the world
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Are we able to research some? because artillery is very important if we want would-be enemy infrastructure intact, at least in comparison to ortillery.
HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
You barely have a nation. Think about that later.
Also adding to this does our missiles reach extreme ranges? oh and if the missiles are fired vertically can they go in a 360° angle or do we have to position our mech? ?
Ok the armaments is done also add an additional a cargo bay and a quirk so it is more in line with our mech so what do you think? @HeroCooky?
Oh i just had a crazy thought can we use the Fully Immersive Mind Machine Interface on our Military dropships and warships it will be incredibly fun for us. we can just have a group of people hooked up inside of the mind machine interface capable of doing manuvers regular warships can't, fire its weapons with horrifying accuracy, run simulations so the warship takes the most optimal and efficient decisions, have an easier time maintaining the ships, have fraction of the crew of a regular warship, use far less supplies for our crew and so on. Ot is a massive force multiplier for us and for everyone else it is beyond horrifying and I can just imagine how the first interaction will go.
Our warships is boarded after heavy losses and they notice something wrong aside from the drones there are no humans and it gets even creepier and weirder there are no control bride, no living quarters, no indication that people are here. Then after sustaining heavy losses fighting the defences of the ships they finally made it into the most defended room of the ships and what they found are rows upon rows of tubes each containing a person suspended in liquid and with cables inserted inside them. The boarders are obviously horrified but then they are gunned down by the room defences.
Also if the crew decided to scare the boarders then they could do this.
When the boarders entered the room and seen all its horror a thousand mechanical voice combined into one speaks "Congratulations on reaching this room all of you will be assimilated into our hivemind please do not resist while we extrated your brain for assimilation" Then more defenses showed up. Horrified the boarders panicked and many killed themselves while others tried to run or to take down as many drones as they can, all of them died.
Also if the crew decided to scare the boarders then they could do this.
When the boarders entered the room and seen all its horror a thousand mechanical voice combined into one speaks "Congratulations on reaching this room all of you will be assimilated into our hivemind please do not resist while we extrated your brain for assimilation" Then more defenses showed up. Horrified the boarders panicked and many killed themselves while others tried to run or to take down as many drones as they can, all of them died.
Reflecting on my fixation on the bio organic mobile suits and my various about mind machine interface i just realized that i want our society to go hard on transhumanism we already have gene therapy so thats a start but i want more. Full body cyborgs, flesh enhanced beyond evolution, computers directly intergrated into the brain, gene engineering so advanced you break the darwinian bonds and can swap out bodies like you swap clothes. I want us to be beyond baseline human and to stick it up to the clans about their idiotic eugenics system.
I especially want a cute story of our AGI be it TAUBENMUTTER or our future furry cowgirl to teach people to adapt to their new existance for the first time
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adding onto the questions.
What are the flakguns mech stats?
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What are the flakguns mech stats?
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you know, i actually think that the missile tubes is the one weapon that is better to be put on a vehicle than a mech.
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HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
I don't know, 10 and LRM20?
No, absolutely not.
They reach for as long as they have fueled.
Generally, you do not, but it is adviced to face the direction of the enemy when firing to reduce the fuel spent traveling for more 'oomph.'
Why bother? Just get your onboard-(dumb) AI to do it for you. In space, all warfare is automated or doomed.Spyglass lore said:
Ship sailed. You get gravity plates.Spyglass lore said:
Too large.
aren't they 25 tons each?
If the choice is all for nothing droneships and automated warfare it is then, the only examples automated warship currently on this timeline is the caspar and we probably be very offended by it and when we're done we will make the caspar looked like the unoptimised abomination it deserved
Hey we have the gene therapy and invasive cybernetics what's stopping us from pursuing it further it is a logical step forward. hell maybe it's the clans of sigar that first pursue into transhumanism it feels really fitting afterall they see healers as important then they see our gene therapy and cybernetics and the improvement on human bodies and decided they wanted to pursue it even further?Ship sailed. You get gravity plates.
and also i thought the only ship that was sailed is the mobile suit what does it have to do with transhumanism?
50 tons not 25 so @HeroCooky was right the flak was far to large.
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HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
You are going to put 50-Ton guns on Mechs?
Because that requires a whole other branch of science I don't want to write about in this Quest. The Vibes are AI and Some Funky Tech, not Biotech and Transhumanism.