What should your focus for the rest of the Quest be?


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What's the chance they'd decide to attack within the same month as we did during the 10-year turn. Who would have thought. And that the exterminatus weaponry would be delivered to the smaller fleet, not the bigger one.

Just grumbles.

Doesn't seem like we've got much of a choice. If they even hit Voxx Secundus then Voxx Primus is toast.
 
After all, the Chamleon had sent notice that Exterminatus-Grade Weaponry had been delivered to the fleet two days before their departure.

Anyway, we know exactly to which ship that the Exterminatus grade weaponry has been delivered.

So, we grab a Chamleon, sail up to that specific ship, and hit it with The Sun. The choir'll die, little to do about it, but it's a guarantee that the enemy plan fails.
 
Anyway, we know exactly to which ship that the Exterminatus grade weaponry has been delivered.

So, we grab a Chamleon, sail up to that specific ship, and hit it with The Sun. The choir'll die, little to do about it, but it's a guarantee that the enemy plan fails.
Yeah, we should just merc all the ships that can carry exterminatus weapons. Those are our targets.
 
Just out of curiosity what would happened if they rolled two 5?
You would have arrived basically seconds after you left Echish and been able to repair, re-arm, and get into position.
Should have put defenses at Voxx instead.
Hey, you still have the Voxxian Ringyard with all its Defense Stations you took intact, alongside monitors. So, ya know, they still gotta make it through them if they go to Primus.
What's the chance they'd decide to attack within the same month as we did during the 10-year turn. Who would have thought. And that the exterminatus weaponry would be delivered to the smaller fleet, not the bigger one.
That's the Eddies of the Warp and Khorne, alongside the weaponry getting delivered to both but getting held back as they got notice that you smashed/are fighting the other fleet.

This is them rushing out to take advantage of a perceived hole in your defenses.
@HeroCooky
If we design Lance CL to back Sagittarius swarm, would primary armament of all-Rad Lance or mixed Rad- and Prow-Lance be better for their role?
Depends on what you want it to do.


Also, Thread Freak/Depression Spiral #5 Due To Enemy Action Commences nicely I see. :V
 
Welp, the dice fucked us over(TWICE). No reason to complain besides that.
I mean even if the dice hadn't fucked us, we would have been in a pretty rough position by choosing to finish off the Duchy forces if the Duchy did the same thing. It's pretty hard to stop what is potentially a suicide charge if you don't have the fleet in position to intercept. All the Duchy would have had to do is put their exterminatus ships into the center of the fleet and then use everyone else as the sacrificial shield to deliver the exterminatus weapon.
 
You would have arrived basically seconds after you left Echish and been able to repair, re-arm, and get into position.
Hey, you still have the Voxxian Ringyard with all its Defense Stations you took intact, alongside monitors. So, ya know, they still gotta make it through them if they go to Primus.
That's the Eddies of the Warp and Khorne, alongside the weaponry getting delivered to both but getting held back as they got notice that you smashed/are fighting the other fleet.

This is them rushing out to take advantage of a perceived hole in your defenses.
Depends on what you want it to do.


Also, Thread Freak/Depression Spiral #5 Due To Enemy Action Commences nicely I see. :V
Do we know which ships specifically are carrying the exterminatus weapons?

Also its funny that after losing Primus and Secundus they immediately turn to exterminatus. If we cant have those billions of future soldiers, then no one can!

If we know which ships carry the munitions then we can focus those down first.
 
Yup. Can you blame us? It would be nice for a gambit to go to plan without a giant wrench from time to time.

I know that's confirmation bias speaking, and the double 8 means that it literally didn't matter what we voted on the last time - even if we retreated the same thing would have happened.
 
Yup. Can you blame us? It would be nice for a gambit to go to plan without a giant wrench from time to time.

I know that's confirmation bias speaking, and the double 8 means that it literally didn't matter what we voted on the last time - even if we retreated the same thing would have happened.
TBH, it feels a bit mean for the QM to outright suggest an action (none of us came up with the sneak attack plan, it was 100% QM prompted), knowing they were planning to do this.
 
Anyway, if you want to risk h a slightly unethical gambit.

We still have that Lamenter's footage of the abominable Intelligence. Send that, pretend it's coming from the station.
Let's see if the enemy has orders to deal with entities like that that supersede it's otherwise genocidal intents.
 
Do we know which ships specifically are carrying the exterminatus weapons?

Also its funny that after losing Primus and Secundus they immediately turn to exterminatus.
Do we know what ship has the Exterminatus Weaponry, @HeroCooky ?

We specifically had the Chamleons sticking to them like white on rice after all.
Yes, the Light Cruisers. Three of them specifically.

And, tbf, they are fighting against Orks and Drukhari on their other fronts after they exterminated a soul-eating xenos species. None of the "unknown attackers" they had were of the "death is not the better option" for their people. And if you take Chaos into account, they may, rationally, assume that hundreds of billions of souls would be better sent to the Emperor than Chaos Rituals.
TBH, it feels a bit mean for the QM to outright suggest an action (none of us came up with the sneak attack plan, it was 100% QM prompted), knowing they were planning to do this.
To be fair here, the Chaos Gods had to roll their number twice to have any effect, with the Star Child also getting that treatment, and I had been of the thought that you would nuke the smaller fleet before meeting the larger one in Echish.
 
Well this happens dice will be dice now I say we push our engines here to try and stop this fleet from succeeding on killing a world needlessly.
 
Yes, the Light Cruisers. Three of them specifically.

And, tbf, they are fighting against Orks and Drukhari on their other fronts after they exterminated a soul-eating xenos species. None of the "unknown attackers" they had were of the "death is not the better option" for their people. And if you take Chaos into account, they may, rationally, assume that hundreds of billions of souls would be better sent to the Emperor than Chaos Rituals.
To be fair here, the Chaos Gods had to roll their number twice to have any effect, with the Star Child also getting that treatment, and I had been of the thought that you would nuke the smaller fleet before meeting the larger one in Echish.

Where are our Chamleons? Are they in the area?
 
…. Quick question, how many choirs do we have? Could we do Melody of the Sun at the Light Cruisers? Because ~90 destroyers bombarding a planet is bad but it's survivable.
 
Where are our Chamleons? Are they in the area?
Wherever you want them to be. You sent them here to spy on shit, so you can say they are where you want to.
...also, @HeroCooky , do we really have to do a fucking write-in where it's like, "The Defense Stations' job is to defend the system, not just the planet?"
It is a star system. They are titanically, mindboggingly, vast. You plopped an Action's worth of stations down to defend what is worth attacking/defending, not fifty, so you simply don't have the reach to deny an entire system.
 
@HeroCooky

Just for future reference, is there anything we can do to mitigate this level of chaos-fuckery, or is it just a background part of the world? Like upgrading the anti-chaos trait, or building a temple ship, or doing the holy tree for saints/holy sigils.

Also - seems like something to take into account for most future warp campaigns. Surprised we haven't run into it before.

...also, @HeroCooky , do we really have to do a fucking write-in where it's like, "The Defense Stations' job is to defend the system, not just the planet?"
I think the easy answer here is that the planet's small, the system's big. Too big to cover with stations.
 
Wherever you want them to be. You sent them here to spy on shit, so you can say they are where you want to.
It is a star system. They are titanically, mindboggingly, vast. You plopped an Action's worth of stations down to defend what is worth attacking/defending, not fifty, so you simply don't have the reach to deny an entire system.

It's just that... our actual fear was an enemy fleet coming in, wrecking our face, and then killing Voxx Secondus and thus Voxx Primus.

Protecting Eschish was, like, 5th on the list and only because I can't think of more than four other priorities.

@HeroCooky

Just for future reference, is there anything we can do to mitigate this level of chaos-fuckery, or is it just a background part of the world? Like upgrading the anti-chaos trait, or building a temple ship, or doing the holy tree for saints/holy sigils.

Also - seems like something to take into account for most future warp campaigns. Surprised we haven't run into it before.


I think the easy answer here is that the planet's small, the system's big. Too big to cover with stations.

It really would be nice if we didn't run into these kinds of misunderstandings every three turns.

This time it wasn't even our fault. We didn't do some clever write-in where we made sure to be very specifically wrong. :V
 
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the Duchy Fleet had warped into the system and had begun to burn toward Voxx Secundus
the Chamleon had sent notice that Exterminatus-Grade Weaponry had been delivered to the fleet two days before their departure.
Ohhhhh, thats whats happening. It took me a bit to catch on and that they just blitzed past Eshich. Welll, time for rngesus to give us some good rolls.

Welp. Great. And the Retreat vote lost by 1 vote too. Fuck.
I'm not sure that would have changed anything, it seems like we would have still had that roll to warp back to Eshich.

Also, Thread Freak/Depression Spiral #5 Due To Enemy Action Commences nicely I see. :V
It looks like we have a strong chance to break the invasion fleet at the sacrifice of Alpha Fleet so I'm not dooming yet. I have the impression theres lots of background rolls happening where theres a risk of getting screwed but we don't know find out about it because its a rare outcome. I actually like that about this quest, it gives more weight to decisions and allows random chance to throw a wrench in plans.

They aren't, for the purpose of keeping the planet safe. You didn't account for them completely ignoring everything and gunning past your line right as your fleet is kept away by Khorne.
Whats stopping enemy fleets from doing this at any time? Just having our own fleet in system to oppose them or they've just never bothered before?

Looks like we might need to invest in second-line defenses or a larger action plan to militarize all our world's orbits with automatically produced defensive stations... although I can't imagine we'd get anything significant enough to slow a 2-3 SBG force.
 
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