Sterbelicht - One Sacrifice At A Time Against The Galaxy (40K)

What should your focus for the rest of the Quest be?

  • Mercy (Diplomacy and Expansion)

    Votes: 202 74.8%

  • Ruthlessness (Kick the Duchy in the Balls)

    Votes: 65 24.1%

  • Thule (Yeeni Handholding and Piscarian Cuddling)

    Votes: 102 37.8%
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The Froggy Ninja said:
Counterpoint, we literally got navigators and astropath songs first try. That implies we can at least influence it towards what we want and it's not pure gacha.
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We got it because HeroCooky hand fed us the information. If he didn't we would still be flailing around with Slower-Than-Light travel and comms. I wish we were geniuses that can somehow accurately guess how the psykana system works, but we're not.
 
Alectai said:
Plasma Macro Cannons are the long-ranged version, when the whole point of the Leo is to get in and fuck shit up at close quarters.
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replaced the Medium plasma with the Rotary version, the intention of the plasma turrets was they are not only longer ranged but also more accurate due firing faster rounds giving the targets less time to dodge, so i am keeping the Light Plasma Macro-Cannons Turrets
 
Crafter of War said:
We got it because HeroCooky hand fed us the information. If he didn't we would still be flailing around with Slower-Than-Light travel and comms. I wish we were geniuses that can somehow accurately guess how the psykana system works, but we're not.
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So having Songs III gives us literally no insight into Songs that we could use to justify in-character attempts to do something specific?
 
sunrise said:
replaced the Medium plasma with the Rotary version, the intention of the plasma turrets was they are not only longer ranged but also more accurate due firing faster rounds giving the targets less time to dodge, so i am keeping the Light Plasma Macro-Cannons Turrets
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But why.

No, seriously, why?

You're reducing the caliber, reducing the rate of fire, and spreading it all out. You've completely changed its role. I'd like to know why you think it needs to be changed from a spearhead into apparently a mid ranged flyswatter that sacrifices most of its killing power just to get some light guns for stand-off range? But then you also tank it up further despite making it even weaker and with better range? I just don't understand the point of it.

The Leo is a spearhead, for that, we want powerful guns that can pound through a target. The choice of using Turrets lets us concentrate all fire to the forward arc, while the crit possibilities are mitigated by our damcon team and the upcoming defensive upgrades. The mapped out upgrade package corrects its deficiciencies in protection while preserving its strength as a spearhead, it's not just chaotically throwing different kinds of guns all over the place because "these ones have longer range and better accuracy."
 
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The Froggy Ninja said:
So having Songs III gives us literally no insight into Songs that we could use to justify in-character attempts to do something specific?
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The Song melody is used to help keep songs tied together and not fray apart into a horrible mess. It's why it was a necessary component for our Astropath and Navigator songs due to how many melodies they used. I can ping HeroCooky about that, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

@HeroCooky Froggy Ninja had a question about Song III and whether or not it can give us insight into songs and if it allows us to get estimated ideas of what a specific combination of melodies does.
 
[X] Plan: GOOD NEWS everyone!
-[X] [General] Research:
--[X] Automechanical Augmentations, Directional Ion Shields, and Karnivore Weapon And Equipment Loadouts
-[X] [Military] [Construct/Refit] A Fleet - [36 Fleet Points]
--[X] 4x Scorpio, 2x Aries-S
-[X] [Military] Begin Military Operations
--[X] Operation GOOD NEWS
---[X] OBJECTIVE: The Formal Entry of the Glimmering Federation into the War of 621 will involve the liberation of Lethysan and Terrore, pivoting from the raiding and disruption of DRAGON'S TOOTH to give cover for our deployment. A war against Chaos that doesn't involve the Star Child's followers? That doesn't seem right after all...
---[X] All Forces from Droma, Ubraka, Neumidia, Perfinda, Gnatilla, Itani, Quintura Diablo, Kriegar, Kanzura, and Gheistheim, as well as the Blazing Sun (14 SAGs), Remaining SAGs should be shuffled in the backline by ships that aren't required to ensure no major vulnerabilities in our defensive perimeter. Supply ships will be assigned temporary Choir support as needed to keep supplies topped off while DRAGON'S TOOTH continues to be a giant distraction and disruption. For once, we actually have Enough Spacelift, it'll be wonderful
----[X] In addition, four to five Celestial Choirs should be ready to assist our SAGs with their own techniques, it would be useful to know what Melodies are most effective and which paths forward should be taken to advance this doctrine.
---[X] Send a scout or another sneaky ship past the lines to inform the Mashan of our intentions, if they want to take advantage of Chaos' confusion... Well, it'll be a good opportunity.
 
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[X] Plan Fleet Buildup
-[X] [Military] [Construct] A Fleet - [36 Fleet Points]
--[X] 4x Scorpio, 2x Aries-S
-[] Design New Voidship Classes
--[X] Leo-Secondus Heavy Cruiser DP: 28
---[X] -Length - 4.600m + 1 DP
---[X]-Width - 600m + 1 DP
---[X]-Acceleration - 3 Gravities - 1 DP
---[X]-Armor - Thick Bulwark Hull - 3 DP
---[X]-Shields - Three Lattices - 2 DP
---[X]-Weapons -1x Medium Boarding Hangar(1)/2x Heavy Rotary Macrocannon Turrets(8)/Light Macro-Cannons Turrets(1) (Total: 36 Boarding Craft) = - 10 DP
---[X]-Equipment - Armored Lifepods(1)/Ship Shrines(1)/Autoloaders(2)/Lattice Hulls (2)/Strict Pilot Training(1)/Superior Gravimetric Engine Calculations(1)/Harsh Crew Training(2)/Yeeni Auxiliary Engineer Division(4) - 14DP
--[X] Operation GOOD NEWS
---[X] OBJECTIVE: The Formal Entry of the Glimmering Federation into the War of 621 will involve the liberation of Lethysan and Terrore, pivoting from the raiding and disruption of DRAGON'S TOOTH to give cover for our deployment. A war against Chaos that doesn't involve the Star Child's followers? That doesn't seem right after all...
---[X] All Forces from Droma, Ubraka, Neumidia, Perfinda, Gnatilla, Itani, Quintura Diablo, Kriegar, Kanzura, and Gheistheim, as well as the Blazing Sun (14 SAGs), Remaining SAGs should be shuffled in the backline by ships that aren't required to ensure no major vulnerabilities in our defensive perimeter. Supply ships will be assigned temporary Choir support as needed to keep supplies topped off while DRAGON'S TOOTH continues to be a giant distraction and disruption.
---[X] Send a scout or another sneaky ship past the lines to inform the Mashan of our intentions, if they want to take advantage of Chaos' confusion... Well, it'll be a good opportunity.

A major buildup for operation with not only a action building new ships but also a second action providing a new improved Leo with improved armor, Lattice Hulls and shields and adding a set of guns
 
[X] Plan: preparation.
-[X] [Military] Militarize The Schools Of Paladins
-[X] Automechanical Augmentations, Directional Ion Shields, and Karnivore Weapon And Equipment Loadouts
-[X] [Military] [Construct/Refit] A Fleet - [36 Fleet Points]
--[X] 2x Scorpio, 4x Aries-S, 3x Crux-S
 
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[X] Plan: Lamenter's Good News
-[X] [Chapter] As The Codex Demands (5.5/7)
-[X] [Military] [Construct/Refit] A Fleet - [36 Fleet Points]
--[X] 4x Scorpio, 2x Aries
-[X] [Military] Begin Military Operations
--[X] Operation GOOD NEWS
---[X] OBJECTIVE: The Formal Entry of the Glimmering Federation into the War of 621 will involve the liberation of Lethysan and Terrore, pivoting from the raiding and disruption of DRAGON'S TOOTH to give cover for our deployment. A war against Chaos that doesn't involve the Star Child's followers? That doesn't seem right after all...
---[X] All Forces from Droma, Ubraka, Neumidia, Perfinda, Gnatilla, Itani, Quintura Diablo, Kriegar, Kanzura, and Gheistheim, as well as the Blazing Sun (14 SAGs), Remaining SAGs should be shuffled in the backline by ships that aren't required to ensure no major vulnerabilities in our defensive perimeter. Supply ships will be assigned temporary Choir support as needed to keep supplies topped off while DRAGON'S TOOTH continues to be a giant distraction and disruption.
----[X] In addition, four to five Celestial Choirs should be ready to assist our SAGs with their own techniques, it would be useful to know what Melodies are most effective and which paths forward should be taken to advance this doctrine.
---[X] Send a scout or another sneaky ship past the lines to inform the Mashan of our intentions, if they want to take advantage of Chaos' confusion... Well, it'll be a good opportunity.

Basically, it's the same plan as Alectai's Good News with me switching out the research with filling out the Lamenters Chapter to 100%. Now if you would excuse me I'm going to hide before Laurent tries to hunt me down.
 
[X] Plan: Saving Voxx Primus's Billions And Good News
-[X] Anti-Ork Ecology Cleansing Methods, Hive Crops, and other Agricultural Wonders
-[X] [Military] [Construct/Refit] A Fleet - [36 Fleet Points]
--[X] 4x Scorpio, 2x Aries
-[X] [Military] Begin Military Operations
--[X] Operation GOOD NEWS
---[X] OBJECTIVE: The Formal Entry of the Glimmering Federation into the War of 621 will involve the liberation of Lethysan and Terrore, pivoting from the raiding and disruption of DRAGON'S TOOTH to give cover for our deployment. A war against Chaos that doesn't involve the Star Child's followers? That doesn't seem right after all...
---[X] All Forces from Droma, Ubraka, Neumidia, Perfinda, Gnatilla, Itani, Quintura Diablo, Kriegar, Kanzura, and Gheistheim, as well as the Blazing Sun (14 SAGs), Remaining SAGs should be shuffled in the backline by ships that aren't required to ensure no major vulnerabilities in our defensive perimeter. Supply ships will be assigned temporary Choir support as needed to keep supplies topped off while DRAGON'S TOOTH continues to be a giant distraction and disruption.
----[X] In addition, four to five Celestial Choirs should be ready to assist our SAGs with their own techniques, it would be useful to know what Melodies are most effective and which paths forward should be taken to advance this doctrine.
---[X] Send a scout or another sneaky ship past the lines to inform the Mashan of our intentions, if they want to take advantage of Chaos' confusion... Well, it'll be a good opportunity.
 
Neablis said:
X] Plan: GOOD NEWS everyone!
[X] Plan: Saving Voxx Primus's Billions And Good News

Hopefully the ground force upgrades will also help with infiltrations, especially the augmentations.


I hear you. The auto-destroyer at 1action seems real tempting. But we aren't all that short on them, and none of our destroyers are particularly good right now.
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Crafter of War said:
@HeroCooky Froggy Ninja had a question about Song III and whether or not it can give us insight into songs and if it allows us to get estimated ideas of what a specific combination of melodies does.
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No, but it will factor in what you get if you put down a reasoning for why you think a combination of Melodies will result in a Song with this Vibe.
 
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