- Location
- Anchorage, Alaska
Yeah, eventually when we have time and effort we can actually start getting research done to get more DP for our ships so the lamenators can get things done.
Sterbelicht - One Sacrifice At A Time Against The Galaxy (40K)
- Thread starter HeroCooky
- Start date
- Mature Sci-Fi
425.M42 - The Faith; Its Truth
HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
In the centuries of its existence, the Glimmering Federation, once called the Candle Keepers, has brought the faith; its truth, and news of the Star Child to billions, with millions more enlightened by the day within the newly liberated territories within the Amratur Sub-Sector. It is inevitable then, with the vast chasm of space and time cleaving the people of the galaxy, and especially those of the Federation, apart, that there would be differences in the faith, especially within its grassroots organization, on the local levels, far below the notice of those charged with keeping the words of the Star Child pure and untouched by base politics or malicious influences.
Some of those differences were found within the Particularist and Anti-Particularist Heresies, with more within the off-shoots of those followers who took the ideas and interpretations found within to twist them further and further. Others were found sprung from the minds of people who had tried to follow the teachings the best they could, established groups of like-minded people, and never lived to see these groups morph and change into new shapes that would have horrified them.
And yet, though some were edging the line between misinterpretation and heresy closer by the day, other groups like those above found themselves spreading and twisting their way through the minds and populations of the Federations systems.
The Order of the Five-Bound Stars, a descendant of the Order of the Three Stars, found adherents in many a system's void infrastructure. Its focus on the charting of stellar phenomena in contexts of faith and holy works intrigued those who had made it their job and duty to crew the monitors and deep space surveillance systems of a system.
The Legion of Embers had become a mainstay of youth culture within Ubraka, teaching children the holy duty of purifying flames feasting upon the Ravagers and the power inherent in a people united in purpose.
The Militants of the New Age had wormed themselves deep into workshops and unions within Neumidia. These adherents of the Star-Mechanicum sought paths of resistance by electoo manipulation within blessed coils and holy forms, their war rites within the 1st Neumidian SAG earning themselves followers and prestige. For with their rousing of the Machine Spirits, machines walked and drove with terrible purpose and dreadful vengeance.
Those seeing and lost are found by the blind and sure of the Monastery of Blessed Hope. They retreat from life to deliver themselves upon the works of the Star Child, laboring with an empty mind and a filled soul for purposes greater than a single life.
A Sword of Thrice-Held Hands can often be found arguing viciously with those adhering to the Book of One's Duty, one side voicing their support to all who would take up arms against the darkness of the galaxy, no matter their origin, their sins, and their species. In contrast, the other found the idea of sending Children to war distasteful at best and heretical at worst, arguing for a path of long inheritance, where duty was done by the fact it needed to be and showed a purpose beyond one's self.
And slowly, the higher echelons of the Glimmering Federation, and especially those of its faith, began to see the need to act upon the rising prevalence of these cults-within-cults, these 'Faith Orders' seen as a tool by some, a weapon by others, and an opportunity by the rest...though if those were wielded by the Federation, or against it...that was debated.
Choose One:
(6-Hour Moratorium)
[] Forcefully Disband All Faith Orders
[] Disband Only The Faith Militants
[] Confer Legal Support To Only Civilian Faith Orders
[] Confer Legal Support To All Faith Orders
[] Sponsor Federal Faith Orders
(Sub-Turn)
[] (Write-In)
Some of those differences were found within the Particularist and Anti-Particularist Heresies, with more within the off-shoots of those followers who took the ideas and interpretations found within to twist them further and further. Others were found sprung from the minds of people who had tried to follow the teachings the best they could, established groups of like-minded people, and never lived to see these groups morph and change into new shapes that would have horrified them.
And yet, though some were edging the line between misinterpretation and heresy closer by the day, other groups like those above found themselves spreading and twisting their way through the minds and populations of the Federations systems.
The Order of the Five-Bound Stars, a descendant of the Order of the Three Stars, found adherents in many a system's void infrastructure. Its focus on the charting of stellar phenomena in contexts of faith and holy works intrigued those who had made it their job and duty to crew the monitors and deep space surveillance systems of a system.
The Legion of Embers had become a mainstay of youth culture within Ubraka, teaching children the holy duty of purifying flames feasting upon the Ravagers and the power inherent in a people united in purpose.
The Militants of the New Age had wormed themselves deep into workshops and unions within Neumidia. These adherents of the Star-Mechanicum sought paths of resistance by electoo manipulation within blessed coils and holy forms, their war rites within the 1st Neumidian SAG earning themselves followers and prestige. For with their rousing of the Machine Spirits, machines walked and drove with terrible purpose and dreadful vengeance.
Those seeing and lost are found by the blind and sure of the Monastery of Blessed Hope. They retreat from life to deliver themselves upon the works of the Star Child, laboring with an empty mind and a filled soul for purposes greater than a single life.
A Sword of Thrice-Held Hands can often be found arguing viciously with those adhering to the Book of One's Duty, one side voicing their support to all who would take up arms against the darkness of the galaxy, no matter their origin, their sins, and their species. In contrast, the other found the idea of sending Children to war distasteful at best and heretical at worst, arguing for a path of long inheritance, where duty was done by the fact it needed to be and showed a purpose beyond one's self.
And slowly, the higher echelons of the Glimmering Federation, and especially those of its faith, began to see the need to act upon the rising prevalence of these cults-within-cults, these 'Faith Orders' seen as a tool by some, a weapon by others, and an opportunity by the rest...though if those were wielded by the Federation, or against it...that was debated.
Choose One:
(6-Hour Moratorium)
[] Forcefully Disband All Faith Orders
[] Disband Only The Faith Militants
[] Confer Legal Support To Only Civilian Faith Orders
[] Confer Legal Support To All Faith Orders
[] Sponsor Federal Faith Orders
(Sub-Turn)
[] (Write-In)
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- They/Them
[] Confer Legal Support To Only Civilian Faith Orders
I'm tempted by either this or a write-in...
I'm tempted by either this or a write-in...
[] Sponsor Federal Faith Orders
Legal support for all of them feels abusable, Disbandment is both ignoring a key part of our "tech tree" And Is just asking for none offical "underground" orders to pop up that we can't guide.
Its the same logic as Pirating, drugs and alcohol, Providing a Legitimate way to gain access to it without jumping through to many hoops, in a way that we can structure, and 99.9% of people will just go with that option for exercising their overwhelming zealotry. Make our own, Set the rules and channel them to productive ends.
this way we can set up our own Hospitaliers and SOB with federal oversight, and I really really want versions of both of those, Both because I love the aesthetics and because they can be stunningly effective when properly managed.
Legal support for all of them feels abusable, Disbandment is both ignoring a key part of our "tech tree" And Is just asking for none offical "underground" orders to pop up that we can't guide.
Its the same logic as Pirating, drugs and alcohol, Providing a Legitimate way to gain access to it without jumping through to many hoops, in a way that we can structure, and 99.9% of people will just go with that option for exercising their overwhelming zealotry. Make our own, Set the rules and channel them to productive ends.
this way we can set up our own Hospitaliers and SOB with federal oversight, and I really really want versions of both of those, Both because I love the aesthetics and because they can be stunningly effective when properly managed.
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Currently writing...
HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
- Location
- Anchorage, Alaska
Considering what he has done in the past? Yeah the QM's dread should be real…and we should really nail down the rest of the faith actions.
ConfusedCanuck
Where did it all go wrong?
- Location
- Neverland
I don't know given the imperiums track record with faith militants in wary of giving any support to them at all. Very much inclined to support civilian faith groups only.
- Location
- Spain
We need elites which are easier to produce and replace than Space Marines... And seeing the bullshit that the Sororitas pull out of their asses thanks to "Faith", having Militant orders in the Federation is a good way of getting those elites...
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Very much in favor of
[] Sponsor Federal Faith Orders
For a lot if the reasons laid out here:
I think this might have actually been a bit of a ticking time bomb. It sounds like we might not have been too far off from some serious schismatic organizations.
Edit: this also sounds like fun Omake territory.
[] Sponsor Federal Faith Orders
For a lot if the reasons laid out here:
I think this might have actually been a bit of a ticking time bomb. It sounds like we might not have been too far off from some serious schismatic organizations.
Edit: this also sounds like fun Omake territory.
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@The Laurent has come up with nutty shit every time we've had a faith vote like this. You should be prepared by now.
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[] Plan--Through the Gates of Heaven: we shall that An Examiner Is Required: The beliefs of each Faith Order must be tested one by one, for it is only through knowledge that we can come to an understanding. Thus all Faith Orders must be tested and proven to be without heresy, or rather within the bounds of orthodoxy, a boundary which is admittedly porous rather than exact. The questions to ask then about each Order are as follows, five times five, and yet the rewards for passing all of these Gates is five-fold. To pass just a few may allow one to exist, in the sense that there are those who cannot be (easily) stamped out... but to pass all Five Gates is to be declared a Sanctified Order.
-[] The First Gate, the Gate of Orthodoxy, is to be passed only by the Worthy
--[] One, it is to be asked whether the Order worships the Five or a single aspect, and if there is a focus whether it falls into a Particularist Heresy. Such heresies are to be gently guided from.
--[] Two, it is to be asked whether an Order aids in the development of faith. An Order certainly can exist and if it is not a heresy in a Particulist or Anti-Particularist sense then it cannot be entirely discounted... but an Order should be encouraging the Body of the Faith in its actions.
--[] Three, one must consider whether the Order cares for the living and the dead. Martydom is true and good for a worthy cause, but the Body of the Faith is both Living and Dead, "Lost" and Truly Found, and so if the Body of the Faith is injured, if it is instead of a bonfire for those to shelter around a roaring fire that will burn itself out, what justice is there?
--[] Four, it is to be asked whether its developments of the Faith are to be considered Just. Justice is a quality of faith which is only discovered and proved upon action.
--[] Fifth, then, is the standard of Action. This is the standard by which one asks not merely if they are just, not merely if they develop the faith, not merely if they are beneficent, but if they develop. Just as we can ask about a bonfire, we must ask about a machine, for a Faith Order should be a machine for the propagation of virtue, should it not?
-[] The Second Gate, the Gate of the Wise, is to be passed only by those who love Knowledge.
--[] The first point of the Second Gate is a love of learning. Ignorance, divine or otherwise, has no place in our faith. Thus we must ask that all who are within the Order are educated as to the path ahead.
--[] The second point, of this second gate, is that Wisdom is respected. Those who lead should be those acknowledged within an Order either for their wisdom, or the concern of the whole. A Faith Order which provides an excuse for the unjust hierarchies of nobility or birth is a Faith Order which does not respect Wisdom.
--[] Thirdly, we speak of the Wise but we speak of a process. Humility is a virtue for those who lead, and as such the heads of Faith Orders must make clear their compliance to the Faith, swearing then that all authorities, religious or otherwise, that are just and right are to be respected.
--[] Fourth, in Wisdom this means no rejection of divinely allowed knowledge. That is to say, that an anti-technology cult, or one that eschews weapons to charge at an enemy, is one that does not worship the Five but instead runs close to the Chaotic strands.
--[] Fifth, this Wisdom cannot replace all other Wisdom. Those who learn and enter the Faith cannot be isolated from all other sources of knowledge. If they wish to learn things outside of a Faith Order, they must be allowed.
-[] The Third Gate, the Gate of the People, is about the treatment of their followers.
--[] First, that a Faith Order cannot and should not demand of its followers all their riches, or control of their lives beyond the degree to which they agree as part of a larger task, for it is easy to imagine a Faith Militant that exists purely for profit.
--[] Second, that a Faith Order should allow those who wish to leave to leave, for their faith is not the whole of the Faith, and that the body and the cells are as one is true... but so is it that it is no heresy to reject one Faith Order but accept the Faith at large.
--[] Third, that all reports of cruelty are to be investigated, all signs of corruption purged. We speak not of Chaos, for of course we would know that, but instead of the kinds of abuse the powerful can inflict on the weak, whether sexual, financial, physical or otherwise. An Order which covers for such crimes is an Order for which we have no use. The Virtue must exist for the great and the small.
--[] Fourth, that no rituals exist which are entirely secret, that while there may be specific actions and ways of worship, that these cannot involve the sacrifice of life and blood, the sanctification of violence, the seeking of excess, the celebration of sickness or hopelessness, or in any particular a violation of the laws of the Five or Man.
--[] Fifth, that any such Order provide the means by which one can grow. An Order should be bottom heavy, of course, for it is the Masses of the Faith that are a portion. But no hierarchy must be unclimbable, and to be without Hierarchy is quite Just but far from required.
-[] The Fourth Gate, the Gate of the Kindred and the Foe, is about the treatment of those unalike.
--[] First we repeat, as always, the admonition against exclusion, against having an order of Nobles, or an Order only of Men, or Women, or those who do not fit into these categories, or only that of the Humans, though we acknowledge that an Order ministering to the Poor will predominantly have the Poor, to the Workers in the Factories thus and so, but that these restrictions cannot be absolute.
--[] Second, that the Order engages in no bigotry or action against Kin or Protectorates, except those 'against' them in the sense of seeking their salvation and enlightenment, as with the Yeeni's embrace of our faith.
--[] Third, if an Order does manage to make all the 'saves' thus far, if it is on the battlefield this is not a justification for defeating the Rules and Laws of War.
--[] Fourth, an Order must not on the other hand embrace the views and beliefs of one outside. It is all well to try to convert former or current Neon Principalities, or even in a hypothetical case where they allowed peaceable contact to proselytize even among the Eldar, but ultimately the Federation is the only polity thus far that respects and worships the Star Child as all should, and so disloyalty to the Faith and the People is not to be accepted.
--[] Fifth, is the rule of Outsiders. Each Holy Order is to respect all others that have been deemed worthy and have passed all the Gates. Fighting among each other is quite forbidden.
-[] The Fifth and Final Gate is the Gate of Action/Inaction, the Gate of the Philosopher and the Hero, the Gate Upon Which The Galaxy Must Be Founded.
--[] First, those Orders which are inactive, in the purely physical sense, that is to say who retreat to a monastary or hermitage to pray, must not in doing so prey upon the people, demanding vast qualities of resources to support them in luxury: donations are all well and good, but we read in our Histories and Philosophies of Monastic Orders which forgot this and grew to be fat, luxurious landholders.
--[] Second, those Orders which are active in the realms of politics cannot act in such a way as to try to fully place under their control any aspect of governance: we cannot recognize the absurd statement of past philosophers that the Temporal and the Spiritual can be disconnected, or Separated, such that the Church and the State are Unlike... but we understand and so must an Order the basic dangers by which 'capture' can corrupt both those captured and those capturing.
--[] Thirdly, those Orders active among Civilians must remember always the Law, and remember always the Virtues of the People, and in doing so they must demonstrate their encouragement of these virtues, by which one is to say that we shall Know Them by their Good Works and their lack of stagnancy.
--[] Fourth, those Orders active in Military situations must be part of the hierarchy, must follow all of the WEENIE guidelines, must wear helmets and act in a military fashion that coordinates with all relevant parties.
--[] Fifth, an Order which changes its activity, that is to say which is a warlike Order that seeks to expand to help in times of Peace, must pass through the Gates once more, and take lesson and instruction from those more experienced.
-[] All of this is to be needed before an Order is Sanctified, and Sanctification can come with support from the People, and with acknowledgement of their role, as well as a place within the theology for imagining that they are in one sense the embodiment of the Body of Faith, a Feature upon the Face of the Faith's Body, but one not immutable, for to pass the Gates once is not all that is needed, any more than the Emperor-and-Omnissiah demands you be good once and never again. The Rewards for passing the Gates are great, and many, and so the standards must be high to be Federally acknowledged, and thus to be remembered by all, able to declare a single day an official Holy Day for one's Order, able to request support from local governments with oversight from the Council for those actions which are just, such as the founding of a new military unit, a better charity, or other such action. These and many other things come.. but only if you pass through FIVE GATES.
-[] The First Gate, the Gate of Orthodoxy, is to be passed only by the Worthy
--[] One, it is to be asked whether the Order worships the Five or a single aspect, and if there is a focus whether it falls into a Particularist Heresy. Such heresies are to be gently guided from.
--[] Two, it is to be asked whether an Order aids in the development of faith. An Order certainly can exist and if it is not a heresy in a Particulist or Anti-Particularist sense then it cannot be entirely discounted... but an Order should be encouraging the Body of the Faith in its actions.
--[] Three, one must consider whether the Order cares for the living and the dead. Martydom is true and good for a worthy cause, but the Body of the Faith is both Living and Dead, "Lost" and Truly Found, and so if the Body of the Faith is injured, if it is instead of a bonfire for those to shelter around a roaring fire that will burn itself out, what justice is there?
--[] Four, it is to be asked whether its developments of the Faith are to be considered Just. Justice is a quality of faith which is only discovered and proved upon action.
--[] Fifth, then, is the standard of Action. This is the standard by which one asks not merely if they are just, not merely if they develop the faith, not merely if they are beneficent, but if they develop. Just as we can ask about a bonfire, we must ask about a machine, for a Faith Order should be a machine for the propagation of virtue, should it not?
-[] The Second Gate, the Gate of the Wise, is to be passed only by those who love Knowledge.
--[] The first point of the Second Gate is a love of learning. Ignorance, divine or otherwise, has no place in our faith. Thus we must ask that all who are within the Order are educated as to the path ahead.
--[] The second point, of this second gate, is that Wisdom is respected. Those who lead should be those acknowledged within an Order either for their wisdom, or the concern of the whole. A Faith Order which provides an excuse for the unjust hierarchies of nobility or birth is a Faith Order which does not respect Wisdom.
--[] Thirdly, we speak of the Wise but we speak of a process. Humility is a virtue for those who lead, and as such the heads of Faith Orders must make clear their compliance to the Faith, swearing then that all authorities, religious or otherwise, that are just and right are to be respected.
--[] Fourth, in Wisdom this means no rejection of divinely allowed knowledge. That is to say, that an anti-technology cult, or one that eschews weapons to charge at an enemy, is one that does not worship the Five but instead runs close to the Chaotic strands.
--[] Fifth, this Wisdom cannot replace all other Wisdom. Those who learn and enter the Faith cannot be isolated from all other sources of knowledge. If they wish to learn things outside of a Faith Order, they must be allowed.
-[] The Third Gate, the Gate of the People, is about the treatment of their followers.
--[] First, that a Faith Order cannot and should not demand of its followers all their riches, or control of their lives beyond the degree to which they agree as part of a larger task, for it is easy to imagine a Faith Militant that exists purely for profit.
--[] Second, that a Faith Order should allow those who wish to leave to leave, for their faith is not the whole of the Faith, and that the body and the cells are as one is true... but so is it that it is no heresy to reject one Faith Order but accept the Faith at large.
--[] Third, that all reports of cruelty are to be investigated, all signs of corruption purged. We speak not of Chaos, for of course we would know that, but instead of the kinds of abuse the powerful can inflict on the weak, whether sexual, financial, physical or otherwise. An Order which covers for such crimes is an Order for which we have no use. The Virtue must exist for the great and the small.
--[] Fourth, that no rituals exist which are entirely secret, that while there may be specific actions and ways of worship, that these cannot involve the sacrifice of life and blood, the sanctification of violence, the seeking of excess, the celebration of sickness or hopelessness, or in any particular a violation of the laws of the Five or Man.
--[] Fifth, that any such Order provide the means by which one can grow. An Order should be bottom heavy, of course, for it is the Masses of the Faith that are a portion. But no hierarchy must be unclimbable, and to be without Hierarchy is quite Just but far from required.
-[] The Fourth Gate, the Gate of the Kindred and the Foe, is about the treatment of those unalike.
--[] First we repeat, as always, the admonition against exclusion, against having an order of Nobles, or an Order only of Men, or Women, or those who do not fit into these categories, or only that of the Humans, though we acknowledge that an Order ministering to the Poor will predominantly have the Poor, to the Workers in the Factories thus and so, but that these restrictions cannot be absolute.
--[] Second, that the Order engages in no bigotry or action against Kin or Protectorates, except those 'against' them in the sense of seeking their salvation and enlightenment, as with the Yeeni's embrace of our faith.
--[] Third, if an Order does manage to make all the 'saves' thus far, if it is on the battlefield this is not a justification for defeating the Rules and Laws of War.
--[] Fourth, an Order must not on the other hand embrace the views and beliefs of one outside. It is all well to try to convert former or current Neon Principalities, or even in a hypothetical case where they allowed peaceable contact to proselytize even among the Eldar, but ultimately the Federation is the only polity thus far that respects and worships the Star Child as all should, and so disloyalty to the Faith and the People is not to be accepted.
--[] Fifth, is the rule of Outsiders. Each Holy Order is to respect all others that have been deemed worthy and have passed all the Gates. Fighting among each other is quite forbidden.
-[] The Fifth and Final Gate is the Gate of Action/Inaction, the Gate of the Philosopher and the Hero, the Gate Upon Which The Galaxy Must Be Founded.
--[] First, those Orders which are inactive, in the purely physical sense, that is to say who retreat to a monastary or hermitage to pray, must not in doing so prey upon the people, demanding vast qualities of resources to support them in luxury: donations are all well and good, but we read in our Histories and Philosophies of Monastic Orders which forgot this and grew to be fat, luxurious landholders.
--[] Second, those Orders which are active in the realms of politics cannot act in such a way as to try to fully place under their control any aspect of governance: we cannot recognize the absurd statement of past philosophers that the Temporal and the Spiritual can be disconnected, or Separated, such that the Church and the State are Unlike... but we understand and so must an Order the basic dangers by which 'capture' can corrupt both those captured and those capturing.
--[] Thirdly, those Orders active among Civilians must remember always the Law, and remember always the Virtues of the People, and in doing so they must demonstrate their encouragement of these virtues, by which one is to say that we shall Know Them by their Good Works and their lack of stagnancy.
--[] Fourth, those Orders active in Military situations must be part of the hierarchy, must follow all of the WEENIE guidelines, must wear helmets and act in a military fashion that coordinates with all relevant parties.
--[] Fifth, an Order which changes its activity, that is to say which is a warlike Order that seeks to expand to help in times of Peace, must pass through the Gates once more, and take lesson and instruction from those more experienced.
-[] All of this is to be needed before an Order is Sanctified, and Sanctification can come with support from the People, and with acknowledgement of their role, as well as a place within the theology for imagining that they are in one sense the embodiment of the Body of Faith, a Feature upon the Face of the Faith's Body, but one not immutable, for to pass the Gates once is not all that is needed, any more than the Emperor-and-Omnissiah demands you be good once and never again. The Rewards for passing the Gates are great, and many, and so the standards must be high to be Federally acknowledged, and thus to be remembered by all, able to declare a single day an official Holy Day for one's Order, able to request support from local governments with oversight from the Council for those actions which are just, such as the founding of a new military unit, a better charity, or other such action. These and many other things come.. but only if you pass through FIVE GATES.
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Whew, alright, there we go.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Passes the sniff test at least.
I imagine it would have been better to get it right when it showed up, but it looks like we've managed to start sorting this out before it became a Problem.
Still feeling Strong Concern about the existence of End of Line though. I don't want to wait until the turn after next to sort it out though, I hope people would be okay with putting a temporary hold on Medical Inf for one turn to build another set of Cruxes so we can take it out before Neon gets their shit together.
I imagine it would have been better to get it right when it showed up, but it looks like we've managed to start sorting this out before it became a Problem.
Still feeling Strong Concern about the existence of End of Line though. I don't want to wait until the turn after next to sort it out though, I hope people would be okay with putting a temporary hold on Medical Inf for one turn to build another set of Cruxes so we can take it out before Neon gets their shit together.
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- Spain
TBH it looks pretty good, but seems basically Sponsor Federal Faith Orders with some extra steps...
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- United States
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Being serious though, you've hit the mark pretty often in the past so I'll support it. Plus, it'll make a headache for HeroCooky to write, so that's a plus in my book.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
The impression I get is "The point is that we're not saying 'You can't get official sanction" so much as "If you want to be recognized as a Holy Order, you need to actually act like a Holy Order rather than just using it as a smokescreen to get shinies."
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Another secret is, you gotta commit to the bit. Once I decided it was going to be five times five points for the requirements, divided into Five Sections, everything flowed from there.
Holy Glorious Hawkboi of Star Child
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- colombia
@The Laurent
Just my bit of salt,so you may include bits of it in your write im
We aint a secular nation
We have a main religion wich we prop up and encourage
So not having militant religious militias seems a waste both for practical and aesthetics reasons
But we should keep them on a short leash,lets take example of real life orders
>need council and religious leadership to be sanctioned/allowed to operate (and get support)
>high ranking clergy (with ties with the council government) will be asigned in key positions inside the militant faith to keep oversight (and avoid cults within cults scenario,by leeping them aligned with the main faith current)
Sponsored faith orders seems the way to go
>regulations and charter that highly limit their operations (give them a territory to operate and a set of tasks they can do,if they want expanded duties and caoabilities,they gotta earn it and ask for it)
>massive financial and resource usage oversight
(always have the IRS breathing down their necks,no secret weapon stockpile for coups or rebellions)
Just my bit of salt,so you may include bits of it in your write im
We aint a secular nation
We have a main religion wich we prop up and encourage
So not having militant religious militias seems a waste both for practical and aesthetics reasons
But we should keep them on a short leash,lets take example of real life orders
>need council and religious leadership to be sanctioned/allowed to operate (and get support)
>high ranking clergy (with ties with the council government) will be asigned in key positions inside the militant faith to keep oversight (and avoid cults within cults scenario,by leeping them aligned with the main faith current)
Sponsored faith orders seems the way to go
>regulations and charter that highly limit their operations (give them a territory to operate and a set of tasks they can do,if they want expanded duties and caoabilities,they gotta earn it and ask for it)
>massive financial and resource usage oversight
(always have the IRS breathing down their necks,no secret weapon stockpile for coups or rebellions)
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I personally think that consecrating the heretical ships is a better action for action economy, sure we wouldn't directly own them (maybe Lamenters would give us on destroyer as sorry/thankyou gift for helping beat the shit out of chaos), but I think that they would help us deal with pirates
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Um, it actively acknowledges that we aren't a secular nation and allows for the creation of militant religious orders?
classic example of 40k fans having poor reading comprehension