Sterbelicht - One Sacrifice At A Time Against The Galaxy (40K)

What should your focus for the rest of the Quest be?

  • Mercy (Diplomacy and Expansion)

    Votes: 210 74.7%

  • Ruthlessness (Kick the Duchy in the Balls)

    Votes: 66 23.5%

  • Thule (Yeeni Handholding and Piscarian Cuddling)

    Votes: 107 38.1%
  • Total voters
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We also still need to get our fleet numbers back up, because Neon definitely isn't going to stop producing ships any time soon.

Also we may want to properly colonise sillista and Ultima sigritta sometime soon, if only to hopefully boost our ship production.
 
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I would like to say, I don't think we should get into the mindset of our Andromedas being something like a 'cap' on the number of ships we can have at a given time. The only thing that they really cap is the size of our QRFs. Even without an Andromeda, our ships can still get around, they just get around a lot slower. So if we just want to bolster the garrisons of star systems on the front lines, where those ships don't need to worry about moving around a bunch, we shouldn't view the extent of our Andromeda's transport capacities as a limit.

I think we only have 3 or 4 'free' Andromeda capacity at the moment, but we 100% should not view that as limiter on how many ships we should be building in this 'lul period'
 
RaptorusMaximus said:
I would like to say, I don't think we should get into the mindset of our Andromedas being something like a 'cap' on the number of ships we can have at a given time. The only thing that they really cap is the size of our QRFs. Even without an Andromeda, our ships can still get around, they just get around a lot slower. So if we just want to bolster the garrisons of star systems on the front lines, where those ships don't need to worry about moving around a bunch, we shouldn't view the extent of our Andromeda's transport capacities as a limit.

I think we only have 3 or 4 'free' Andromeda capacity at the moment, but we 100% should not view that as limiter on how many ships we should be building in this 'lul period'
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My thinking exactly. The Andromeda is for when time and speed is of the essence, but we can still move around in our territory fine if there's no emergency, just slower. Like I doubt that we'd need an Andromeda if we want to go handle the Three Siblings.

[x] Plan: The 5 last steps of the departed
 
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Alectai said:
@HeroCooky , do we have enough production that we could build an Andromeda and have enough left over to refit the original Libra to the Super Libra? When you get up of course, no urgent rush on this.
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Hmmm, I am a merciful god. I'll allow it.
frostgiant said:
Can someone point me to a post that explains how songs/melodies work? I am looking at them in the action list and trying to find something about how they work, But all I found was the cool art cards.
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Added an explanation to the Psykana threadmark at its end
aceraptor said:
Symphonies are likely strategic scale rituals. Maybe something like say, calming the Warp in an entire sector or even multiple sectors?

Though they will likely require progressing down psytech tech tree.
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Symphonies are up-to planet-scale rituals, not sectors. If you could do that, or even had the hint you could, the Eldar would have murdered all of you Turn 1.
 
I'm awake, I'm awake.

So, let me elaborate on my pre-slep Revelation

Take a look at our Melodies. Revealed, Star Child, Secret, and Kil'drabi.

See something? The Kil'drabi are added there because they intentionally decided to just feed their rare Psykers to us.

See something we don't have? The Yeeni.

We just showed off what proper Psychic powers did, but didn't actually enforce the rules and invite them into our paradigm.

That's the time bomb.
 
frostgiant said:
bigger time bomb, but Faith militant is definitely a time bomb in its own rights. I think grave's might have been the only non-timebomb
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Eh, honestly the Faith Militant is, like. I'm not saying there aren't fanatics, but we'd in fact be told if there was a fanatic order going around starting wars, lol. Whereas we wouldn't necessarily notice a concerning Yeeni trend or etc.
 
Karnax626 said:
I thought we did, it's just they seem to have basically no instances of psykers within their population?
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And yet, we haven't seen any of those Yeeni Psykers pop up.

Even the Kil'drabi--who have statistically very small numbers of Psykers, and a very tiny population, had at least one within a few decades of integrating them, which raised the question in the first place (And when we integrated that one first Kil'drabi Psyker, we got access to the Kil'drabi Melodies)

The Yeeni were a single, established planet who were early spacefarers, and we apparently haven't even gotten one. In several decades.

(Gestures vaguely at the implied Time Bomb)
 
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Alectai said:
And yet, we haven't seen any of those Yeeni Psykers pop up.

Even the Kil'drabi--who have statistically very small numbers of Psykers, and a very tiny population, had at least one within a few decades of integrating them, which raised the question in the first place (And when we integrated them, we got access to the Kil'drabi Melodies)

The Yeeni were a single, established planets, and we apparently haven't even gotten one. In several decades.

(Gestures vaguely at the implied Time Bomb)
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It's entirely possible that they just don't have psykers, lots of species start out that way.
 
10moorem II said:
It's entirely possible that they just don't have psykers, lots of species start out that way.
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The Kil'drabi have very small numbers of Psykers, and yet from a small population of refugee survivors, they had one within a few decades.

The Yeeni were an established people who were just starting to leave their home system, and yet apparently we haven't even found one there?

I mean, I might be blowing things up, but this is the kind of thing that we can't really afford to fuck up, and there's actual backing for this possibly being a shitstorm in the makng.
 
Wait, I thought there was a QM statement about finding and accepting a few Yeeni psykers into the Choir organization, though none of them were potent enough to be a part of the Choir proper. Maybe I'm not remembering that right?
 
Alectai said:
See something we don't have? The Yeeni.
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Isn't that because the Yeeni don't have that much psychic potential? If one of them suddenly awoke I think they would tell us.

Alectai said:
The Kil'drabi have very small numbers of Psykers, and yet from a small population of refugee survivors, they had one within a few decades.
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Psychic potential is not guaranteed on any given species. The tau for example don't have any outside the ethereals.
 
HeroCooky said:
It's been 162 years since that has been introduced. Out of the three Faith Actions lying there, the [How do we deal with Edge Case Funeral Rites] one is not the one with a ticking timer. :V
Not that I can see.

Also, it's like...1:20 AM here. So...night!
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So UTC+2 too, good to know.
Will probably forget before it ever comes up.

Alectai said:
I'm awake, I'm awake.

So, let me elaborate on my pre-slep Revelation

Take a look at our Melodies. Revealed, Star Child, Secret, and Kil'drabi.

See something? The Kil'drabi are added there because they intentionally decided to just feed their rare Psykers to us.

See something we don't have? The Yeeni.

We just showed off what proper Psychic powers did, but didn't actually enforce the rules and invite them into our paradigm.

That's the time bomb.
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The Yeeni claimed that they don't have psyker, and in the meantime we found 2 3 who are able to support the choir but aren't strong enough to join a choir proper.
HeroCooky said:
ou are slowly converting them to the Droman Creed, so about a third are already on the same level as you, with most looking at the faith favorably.

And they do have Psykers, but most are barely above baseline and will never be found. You now have around 3 that joined the Celestial Choir, but none have been powerful enough to join a Choir proper.
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Theta (9), Eta (10), Zeta(11) would be strong enough to join. So the 2 must be Kappa(7) or Iota(8).
HeroCooky said:
While it is a fact that the vast majority of the around three thousand Psykers of the Federation consists of those who would have classified as 'Kappa' and 'Iota' rank, there still exists a cadre of those within the 'Theta' 'Eta' and 'Zeta' ranks inducted into the Celestial Choir as more than their Kappa and Iota auxiliary members assigned to control training, ritual preparations, and minor duties.

Led by the Celestial Choir, the first of their kind and composed of one 'Epsilon,' three 'Delta' and one 'Gamma' level Psykers within its ranks, those members of the Choirs find themselves charged with duties ranging from combat (something that will likely include far more foes than only the Orks in the future), the gathering of more Psykers in their assigned system, to the gathering and research of better control methods, with navigation of ships and communication between systems soon to join that expectation.
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Lets check with wh40k wiki what levels those are:
Kappa is the last grading of "unconscious and minor" psycher, with the note that "psykers of this grade generally never even learn that they possess any abilities at all".
While Iota are practically where you start to have them taken by the black fleet.

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  • Omicron (2) - At this grade of The Assignment, which includes grades Omicron through Kappa inclusive, the individual displays an unconscious and minor level of psychic brain activity. These abilities produce no truly noticable effects on the individual or their surroundings and most psykers of this grade are unaware of their status unless put to a full examination by an expert skilled in discerning psychic ability, usually another psyker. Although psykers of these grades are still legally under the jurisdiction of the Inquisition and the Adeptus Astra Telepathica, it is logistically impossible to exam every individual who might meet this grade of The Assignment across the galaxy. As the danger such individuals represent to Humanity is minimal, psykers of this grade generally never even learn that they possess any abilities at all.
  • Xi (3) - See above.
  • Nu (4) - See above.
  • Mu (5) - See above.
  • Lambda (6) - See above.
  • Kappa (7) - See above.
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wh40k wiki said:
  • Iota (8) - At grades Iota through Eta inclusive, the psyker begins to display various extrasensory powers and is fully aware of their abilities and how they can alter their environment. Psykers of these grades, however, are only able to control their abilities with some effort. All psykers of Iota grade and higher are considered true psykers by the Adeptus Astra Telepathica and upon discovery are immediately turned over by their world's planetary government as part of its tithe to the Inquisition and the League of Blackships for transport to Terra.
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So potentially the Yeni are just inert as fuck. But not to the level that our choir sees them as blank (or close enough to be noteworthy).
Or they hide their psykers from us (would seem weird, but possible and not a risk to be taken).
Or Tzeentch is playing a long con which involves hiding all psykers from the Yeeni and us. Which our Choirs finding the 3 psykers missed.
 
Alectai said:
The Kil'drabi have very small numbers of Psykers, and yet from a small population of refugee survivors, they had one within a few decades.

The Yeeni were an established people who were just starting to leave their home system, and yet apparently we haven't even found one there?

I mean, I might be blowing things up, but this is the kind of thing that we can't really afford to fuck up, and there's actual backing for this possibly being a shitstorm in the makng.
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…Again the amount of psykers a species produces can vary wildly. There's humanity which produces a decent amount of psykers per generation. Then there are races like the Tau who produce no psykers.

The Yeeni may simply be like the Tau, too early in their psychic development to truly have any psychic individuals.
 
Mrrr.

Okay, fine, maybe I was being too paranoid. I'm not sure how the Holy Order thing could be a time bomb, unless it's "That's how you get Elite Super Goobers" and we're going to need them before the SoBs shift over here.
 
The thing is, the Faith Militant doesn't actually make sense as a timebomb. Like I'm not saying it shouldn't be settled, but what's the worry there?

Alectai said:
Mrrr.

Okay, fine, maybe I was being too paranoid. I'm not sure how the Holy Order thing could be a time bomb, unless it's "That's how you get Elite Super Goobers" and we're going to need them before the SoBs shift over here.
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Yeah, I still absolutely support doing the Other Psykers over the Faith Militant.
 
Alectai said:
The Yeeni were an established people who were just starting to leave their home system, and yet apparently we haven't even found one there?
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Actually, HeroCooky did say we found some Yeeni psykers. It's just that they're so few and BARELY go over the classification for Psyker that they all just go to the Celestial Choir instead of A Choir

HeroCooky said:
And they do have Psykers, but most are barely above baseline and will never be found. You now have around 3 that joined the Celestial Choir, but none have been powerful enough to join a Choir proper.
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Alectai said:
We just showed off what proper Psychic powers did, but didn't actually enforce the rules and invite them into our paradigm.
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You...did do that? Like, I even made a joke that you didn't get a Choir some turns ago because a Yeeni Influencer did an oopsie and had to be shot as a post-fact explanation as to why you didn't get some for a few turns? You have some Yeeni Psykers, but they can be counted on one hand with a finger missing and not knowing that the thumb is technically not a finger. And none of them are strong enough to enter a Choir.

The Kil'Drabi got you Melodies to poke at because they have a generally active Psyker generation, unlike the Yeeni who are a step below humanity in pre-psychic awakening general power-levels.
The Laurent said:
The thing is, the Faith Militant doesn't actually make sense as a timebomb.
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Well, that is probably my 1am brain making things a bit too dire than they seem. It's less " You didn't do this, so suffer the wrath of a trillion suns!" and more "You didn't do this, so now the action has some complications and/or has shifted somewhat in its resolution."

If there was a timebomb Action on your list, it'd tell you that.
 
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