Cry Future, and let slip the Thules of War!
Sterbelicht - One Sacrifice At A Time Against The Galaxy (40K)
- Thread starter HeroCooky
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*Looks at the Symphony*
JESUS. So basically every 2 turns we get a extra action.
JESUS. So basically every 2 turns we get a extra action.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Honestly, if it counts AP generated by Songs and Traits to be AP, this is an incredibly powerful thing. The only thing stronger would be "I said "Rounds Up" and I meant it", which would mean that we basically double our AP when it comes to chewing through single action projects, and get a hefty reimbursement on megaprojects like the Planetmaw (Which would give us 3 AP on completion).
4 turns = 5 turns for us.
Any way I think that we should grab economic integration with grove to maybe start integrating them
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I do think we should think about Automation! Also maybe this?
[] Economic Harmonization - (Shipwright's Grove)
And yes, build some SBGs... also, we still haven't done an Andromeda 2??
[] Economic Harmonization - (Shipwright's Grove)
And yes, build some SBGs... also, we still haven't done an Andromeda 2??
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
I need to figure out exactly how the Symphony works, but if it lets us convert AP from, say, a research fest into more AP, we could get a lot of research done in one fell swoop to catch up on our backlog. With three actions, two of which generate a free AP, we'd get roughly 5.5 Research AP out of it if the Symphony pool works that way. That's enough to speedrun even the Knight update if we want.
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HeroCooky
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5 Psykers per Choir. Just as a reminder; these only include STABLE AND SANE Psykers from the Rank Iota (8) and up. All those below, or not stable and sane are turned into aides and helpers. Fun Fact: You have around 400 Delta Rank Psykers in your nation.
(The scale goes to 40+, but anything after 19+ is either not feasible for sane humans, or theoretical. Bnuy was a Gamma (14) Rank Psyker, FYI.)
It says "Total Action," does it not?
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We have 3 actions a turn, and actions gained this way are rounded up. That should give us 0.75 actions rounded up to 1 whole action a turn, shouldn't it? Even ignoring actions gained from other methods like songs?
Understood. So Lamenter choirs should be equal to five normal choirs on average. Probably because simply becoming a space marine enhances the soul and psychic might of a psyker.
Now that you've brought up the unstable/weak psykers who don't make it into the choirs, I wonder how much effect having better gear would have on them (as well as if sanctifying a whole subsector provides bonuses to psyker stability, though that might be a bit to granular as the quest grows in scale)
(insert manical cackling here.)
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Which with Lamenters has a tendency to be "next tuesday", doesn't it?
Holy fuck.
No.
"Actions gained this way are rounded up".
We have 3 actions? -> 0.75 Actions gained -> rounded up to 1 Action gained.
We have 5 actions? (emergency turns)-> 1.25 Actions gained -> rounded up to 2 Actions.
No.
Not 4 turns-> 5turns.
3 turns -> 4 turns.
The turns gained are rounded up.
Each turn we get at least 1 bonus AP from that.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Oh my god.
HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
Mind that it also says "Actions gained this way" here.
LETS GOOOOOOOOOO
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Okay so essentially what I am understanding is this
3 actions a turn = Symphony Procs =1 extra action(because of roundup rules)
3 actions a turn = Symphony Procs =1 extra action(because of roundup rules)
So I think economic integration and research now.
As for which research:
As for which research:
these look intresting
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Also, @Alectai , shouldn't we find some time in the next few turns to take these?
-[] The Shatterprow (1/2)
The counter-part to the Starlance, the Shatterprow does not attempt to project its psychic might ahead of itself but instead focuses on enhancing and hardening the prow of the ship it is attached to, increasing a fearsome ramming attack even further without the need to fire continuously.
(Gain: 5 DP Weapon: Shatterprow. Requires a Choir to operate.)
-[] The Starlance (1/2)
Though named after the weapon that annihilated twenty-two Light Cruisers in its first showing against the Federation, the weapon is projected to be far weaker than its namesake, and, far more importantly, will not need a billion sapient souls to fire, nor the weird black stones used as amplyfiers. Situated in the prow of a ship and operated by a Choir, the Starlance projects a beam of psychic might against the enemy in a continuous stream at short ranges, with its destructive potential enhanced if a ship accelerates against its targeted foe.
(Gain: 7 DP Weapon: Starlance. Requires a Choir to operate.)
And try to make an Andromeda that's not a pure liability?
-[] The Shatterprow (1/2)
The counter-part to the Starlance, the Shatterprow does not attempt to project its psychic might ahead of itself but instead focuses on enhancing and hardening the prow of the ship it is attached to, increasing a fearsome ramming attack even further without the need to fire continuously.
(Gain: 5 DP Weapon: Shatterprow. Requires a Choir to operate.)
-[] The Starlance (1/2)
Though named after the weapon that annihilated twenty-two Light Cruisers in its first showing against the Federation, the weapon is projected to be far weaker than its namesake, and, far more importantly, will not need a billion sapient souls to fire, nor the weird black stones used as amplyfiers. Situated in the prow of a ship and operated by a Choir, the Starlance projects a beam of psychic might against the enemy in a continuous stream at short ranges, with its destructive potential enhanced if a ship accelerates against its targeted foe.
(Gain: 7 DP Weapon: Starlance. Requires a Choir to operate.)
And try to make an Andromeda that's not a pure liability?
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Please give him an hour. I think he's still trying to process the unadulterated bullshit that this symphony is
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
[ ] Plan: To The Future!
-[ ] [Free] Consecrate In Sacred Sand (Grace of the Faith - Ixcat)
-[] [General] Research:
--[] The Shatterprow
--[] Abhuman Medical Advances (Free AP)
--[] Irritan Contagion Bombs and Clone Creation Improvement
--[] Noosphere Harmonized Interface and Directed Anti-Gravity Military Utilization (Free AP)
--[] Small Automata Experiments and Plasma Integrity Studies
--[] The Starlance (Free AP)
--[] Burner Seeker Mines and Rotary Plasma-Macro Cannons (Symphony AP)
-[] [Free] Advise the Lamenters that, you know, we do have a decent sized psychic population and a now seasoned paradigm, if you want Librarians, we're perfectly willing to help you get that set up.
We've still got half an action out of this, but Look at all this fucking research guys.
Our QoL is about to go fucking insane.
-[ ] [Free] Consecrate In Sacred Sand (Grace of the Faith - Ixcat)
-[] [General] Research:
--[] The Shatterprow
--[] Abhuman Medical Advances (Free AP)
--[] Irritan Contagion Bombs and Clone Creation Improvement
--[] Noosphere Harmonized Interface and Directed Anti-Gravity Military Utilization (Free AP)
--[] Small Automata Experiments and Plasma Integrity Studies
--[] The Starlance (Free AP)
--[] Burner Seeker Mines and Rotary Plasma-Macro Cannons (Symphony AP)
-[] [Free] Advise the Lamenters that, you know, we do have a decent sized psychic population and a now seasoned paradigm, if you want Librarians, we're perfectly willing to help you get that set up.
We've still got half an action out of this, but Look at all this fucking research guys.
Our QoL is about to go fucking insane.
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[] Plan: The Lancer, Prelude
-[] [Free] Consecrate In Sacred Sand (Grace of the Faith - Ixcat)
-[] The Shatterprow (1/2)
-[] The Starlance (1/2)
-[] Burner Seeker Mines and Rotary Plasma-Macro Cannons
-[] Economic Harmonization - (Shipwright's Grove)
-[] Hydralisk and Necrolisk (0/1) (Cry Future Action)
Here's a simple plan that sets the stage for designing some cool new ships to make our fleet even better. But also gets some more SBGs just in case. Plus, economic harmonization.
-[] [Free] Consecrate In Sacred Sand (Grace of the Faith - Ixcat)
-[] The Shatterprow (1/2)
-[] The Starlance (1/2)
-[] Burner Seeker Mines and Rotary Plasma-Macro Cannons
-[] Economic Harmonization - (Shipwright's Grove)
-[] Hydralisk and Necrolisk (0/1) (Cry Future Action)
Here's a simple plan that sets the stage for designing some cool new ships to make our fleet even better. But also gets some more SBGs just in case. Plus, economic harmonization.
Huh. Cool. No bonus action for milestone, though I suppose the symphony kind of gives us permanent bonus actions, doesn't it?
Is this a bad time to make a case for the planetmaw? We do currently have 65 free Choirs. If we pulled 5 off of our scouts then we could do both Unto Works Generational & The Devouring Mechadendendrite at the same time, dropping it down to six actions. Then once that's done and between The Devouring Mechadendrite & the new Symphony we could start slamming out X-bonuses every few turns.
@HeroCooky Hope you're feeling better, I appreciate the update a lot, definitely take your rest if you need it. I know I really enjoyed checking the quest when I was sick, but I wasn't writing it! One of these days when I finish my current project...
But, question for you! Now that we finally have the melodies - is Progress/Community/Family/Unity the auto-development song we're looking for?
I think the best plan for the Andromeda is to take the Crusader Fleet Carrier Focus doctrine and stick a carronade and a micro-warp jump engine on it. So it can run from any fight and shoot anybody from out of their range. Preliminary plan here.
Is this a bad time to make a case for the planetmaw? We do currently have 65 free Choirs. If we pulled 5 off of our scouts then we could do both Unto Works Generational & The Devouring Mechadendendrite at the same time, dropping it down to six actions. Then once that's done and between The Devouring Mechadendrite & the new Symphony we could start slamming out X-bonuses every few turns.
@HeroCooky Hope you're feeling better, I appreciate the update a lot, definitely take your rest if you need it. I know I really enjoyed checking the quest when I was sick, but I wasn't writing it! One of these days when I finish my current project...
But, question for you! Now that we finally have the melodies - is Progress/Community/Family/Unity the auto-development song we're looking for?
Both of those upgrades require the ship to be in close range of the enemy, which is not where I want our choirs to be.
I think the best plan for the Andromeda is to take the Crusader Fleet Carrier Focus doctrine and stick a carronade and a micro-warp jump engine on it. So it can run from any fight and shoot anybody from out of their range. Preliminary plan here.
I think we need a policing force more than we need a fleet. We have fortifications, a decent fleets and we have nobody nearby who really wants to attack us. In terms of the prophecies we'll have at least a couple of turns of warning on both fronts given our existing relationships with those polities.
Don't forget to include a free action to let the Lamenters recruit Librarians!
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So, for this turn, if we went all out on research:
3 actions on research = 1.2 actions from glint of genius = 4.2
a cry for future = 1 extra actions
total = 5.2
Does glint of genius then also apply to the extra action from the symphony, adding another .4 actions? Or is double dipping not a thing here.
If double dipping applies, that gest us to 5.6 actions if solely spent on research.
Either way, that should mean we can grab power staves with a single turn of research, and possibly get bigger bonuses from choirs/symponies in the future.
[ ] Plan: MOAR song/symphony bonuses + lamenter Choirs
-[ ] [Free] Consecrate In Sacred Sand (Grace of the Faith - Ixcat)
-[ ] [Free] Allow Lamenters to start recruting psykers for lamenter choirs.
-[] [General] Research:
-[] Improved Psyker Staves (0/5) 5
The ability to create psychic focii is no longer a mere beginner's art within the Glimmering Federation, and with knowledge and familarity comes the ability to strive further than yesterday. With The Sun Melody having become a measuring-stick upon which one can see progress, its is estimated that further refinement will be capable of of reducing the damages incurred into "mere" full-body third-degree burns.
(Gain: Improves Choir efficiency and might when using Songs and Melodies.)
-[] Standard Psychic Hoods 0.2 remaining actions here
3 actions on research = 1.2 actions from glint of genius = 4.2
a cry for future = 1 extra actions
total = 5.2
Does glint of genius then also apply to the extra action from the symphony, adding another .4 actions? Or is double dipping not a thing here.
If double dipping applies, that gest us to 5.6 actions if solely spent on research.
Either way, that should mean we can grab power staves with a single turn of research, and possibly get bigger bonuses from choirs/symponies in the future.
[ ] Plan: MOAR song/symphony bonuses + lamenter Choirs
-[ ] [Free] Consecrate In Sacred Sand (Grace of the Faith - Ixcat)
-[ ] [Free] Allow Lamenters to start recruting psykers for lamenter choirs.
-[] [General] Research:
-[] Improved Psyker Staves (0/5) 5
The ability to create psychic focii is no longer a mere beginner's art within the Glimmering Federation, and with knowledge and familarity comes the ability to strive further than yesterday. With The Sun Melody having become a measuring-stick upon which one can see progress, its is estimated that further refinement will be capable of of reducing the damages incurred into "mere" full-body third-degree burns.
(Gain: Improves Choir efficiency and might when using Songs and Melodies.)
-[] Standard Psychic Hoods 0.2 remaining actions here
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Yeah, I think they'd be helpful in general, and we can circle back around to the Novel Infantry stuff when we have an actual war on. Since that will take less time to spool up than, uh, Designing New Ships (TM).
Can you be convinced to switch military action to economic harmonisation with Grove? I would love to pull a North German confederation with them and annex them after we win war toghter
This looks rather enticing, though I would like it if we did a free action to allow Librarians to be recruited and another to change our doctrine to Crusader Fleet one since I believe it has been a century since we last switched it.