Yeah, I was being term lazy - he's physically stronger but to what degree does that matter with appropriate swordsmanship?

If they're charging at you and you get your blade in the way at the right time their superior strength is a con.

Depends on how effective the blade is on them. Take Cynfanor for example, he has just suffered three fatal injuries and doesn't give a crap.

One through the right eye, one smashing off his right ear, two stab into his muscular chest while another tears into his right hip and the final one rips into the lower half of his left leg.

But while such injuries would be fatal to a mortal, Cynfanor is no mortal and he is incredibly tough even by spirit standards.

Barely hindered by his injuries and the spears lodged in his body, Cynfanor charges into the battle.
 
Depends on how effective the blade is on them. Take Cynfanor for example, he has just suffered three fatal injuries and doesn't give a crap.
Tbh (to be horribly nitpicky) none of the descriptions are fatal as stands due to a lack of note as to the depth of penetration and a possible lack of damage to significant internalities (most chest wounds need to hit the heart or sever significant blood vessels to be rapidly rather than eventually fatal; people are weirdly resistant to brain damage at least if that one guy with the nail in his head is any indicator).

Also, would it be possible to make a sword anathema to spirits? A godkiller? Are spirits all made of the same things or does having different aspects change their being in a material way?
 
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Tbh (to be horribly nitpicky) none of the descriptions are fatal as stands due to a lack of note as to the depth of penetration and a possible lack of damage to significant internalities (most chest wounds need to hit the heart or sever significant blood vessels to be rapidly rather than eventually fatal; people are weirdly resistant to brain damage at least if that one guy with the nail in his head is any indicator).

I did describe them as fatal injuries in the update. I hoped that would have made it clear how lethal they were.

But while such injuries would be fatal to a mortal,

Also, would it be possible to make a sword anathema to spirits? A godkiller? Are spirits all made of the same things or does having different aspects change their being in a material way?

You have no clue in-universe.
 
Well, while we're discussing this, I hope we can take at least the lightning Aspect here, maybe even all of his to give part for our wife. The way things are shaping, we are basically Zeuz, not the strongest god in his pantheon, but the one everyone listen to and the one who kinda made the pantheon. Diferently from Odin, who is seem as the strongest and the wisest at the same time, we can't get that far...
 
Well, while we're discussing this, I hope we can take at least the lightning Aspect here, maybe even all of his to give part for our wife. The way things are shaping, we are basically Zeuz, not the strongest god in his pantheon, but the one everyone listen to and the one who kinda made the pantheon. Diferently from Odin, who is seem as the strongest and the wisest at the same time, we can't get that far...
I think we should give our wife lightning so that you can be the storm above our mountain, an electrifying beauty.
 
Well, while we're discussing this, I hope we can take at least the lightning Aspect here, maybe even all of his to give part for our wife. The way things are shaping, we are basically Zeuz, not the strongest god in his pantheon, but the one everyone listen to and the one who kinda made the pantheon. Diferently from Odin, who is seem as the strongest and the wisest at the same time, we can't get that far...
I think we should give our wife lightning so that you can be the storm above our mountain, an electrifying beauty.

I just want to point out that you need to defeat Cynfanor first. The possibility of suffering defeat here with Bronwyn losing her body, you and Evatine losing your avatars, your daughters being killed or capture and losing hundreds of warriors is still on the table of potential outcomes at this point.

So don't count your chickens before they hatch.
 
I just want to point out that you need to defeat Cynfanor first. The possibility of suffering defeat here with Bronwyn losing her body, you and Evatine losing your avatars, your daughters being killed or capture and losing hundreds of warriors is still on the table of potential outcomes at this point.

So don't count your chickens before they hatch.
That is a good point. <jk> But after they do hatch, how many should we give to our wife? </jk>
 
Any chance you could give us the list of all of Cynafor's aspects (or did you already?) + tell us how you decide which aspects can be devoured upon a spirit/god's death?

1) You know that Cynfanor probably has an Aspect of Lightning or Storms, possibility a Spirit of Lighting or Storms. You also suspect he is a Spirit of at least one Martial concept or has two Martial aspects.

2) Various factors which can result me picking the options which make the most sense. Such as who was involved, how close the victors are to gaining another Aspect and the Aspects of the defeated and the Epicness of the battle.
 
So our warriors are valitantly fighting against bigger numbers, but are kinda winning. We, on the other hand, will have a hard time distracting and defending from Cynfanor, while our friend blasts him from afar. If our wife help the warriors, we can probably win this, since when the battle between the armies ends we'll have extra help dealing with him. Spirits are incredible, yeah, but it isn't impossible for common people to fight them with enough numbers :V
 
@Oshha Would you please an information sheet for our wife, or is her power not yet sufficiently explored?

Bronwyn has the Aspect of Love which grants her bonuses to seduction and certain types of leadership and the Kitten Daughters trait. She is decent at exploring and logistics and is good at leading/ruling. She only has one shrine and has roughly the same energy and physical power as you.

So our warriors are valitantly fighting against bigger numbers, but are kinda winning. We, on the other hand, will have a hard time distracting and defending from Cynfanor, while our friend blasts him from afar. If our wife help the warriors, we can probably win this, since when the battle between the armies ends we'll have extra help dealing with him. Spirits are incredible, yeah, but it isn't impossible for common people to fight them with enough numbers :V

Your warriors are currently winning due to the Bedywnish being completely unprepared for your arrival (Cynfanor executed the two who got away for cowardice without listening to what they had to say) and Evatine's buffing them. You also have five demi-spirits with a bonus to melee in the fray. Otherwise spot on.
 
Bronwyn has the Aspect of Love which grants her bonuses to seduction and certain types of leadership and the Kitten Daughters trait. She is decent at exploring and logistics and is good at leading/ruling. She only has one shrine and has roughly the same energy and physical power as you.



Your warriors are currently winning due to the Bedywnish being completely unprepared for your arrival (Cynfanor executed the two who got away for cowardice without listening to what they had to say) and Evatine's buffing them. You also have five demi-spirits with a bonus to melee in the fray. Otherwise spot on.
So what you're saying is that we have a bigger advantage than I gave credit, but that part of it will end because they get prepared to fight? Well, I really hope our wife helps our warriors then.
 
So what you're saying is that we have a bigger advantage than I gave credit, but that part of it will end because they get prepared to fight? Well, I really hope our wife helps our warriors then.

Possibly. The battle is already joined and your forces are keeping up the pressure on the Bedywnish so they may not be able to rally a proper defence.
 
Also, would it be possible to make a sword anathema to spirits? A godkiller? Are spirits all made of the same things or does having different aspects change their being in a material way?
I suspect the first Sword which killed a spirit might become a focus for Death, depending on if Evatine wants to take Death into himself or leave it as an Enshrined Artifact to form a subordinate spirit.
Your warriors are currently winning due to the Bedywnish being completely unprepared for your arrival (Cynfanor executed the two who got away for cowardice without listening to what they had to say) and Evatine's buffing them. You also have five demi-spirits with a bonus to melee in the fray. Otherwise spot on.
Well, his loss on the execution. Basically we're individually weaker but we brought a good team with supports.
 
I'm going to call the vote closed.
Adhoc vote count started by Oshha on Jan 21, 2018 at 4:36 PM, finished with 33 posts and 5 votes.

  • [X] Intercept Cynfanor. Regardless of whether he hits your mortal followers or goes for Evatine, Cynfanor need to stop or at least delayed and you are the only one for that job.
 
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[X] Intercept Cynfanor. Regardless of whether he hits your mortal followers or goes for Evatine, Cynfanor need to stop or at least delayed and you are the only one for that job.

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You cannot let Cynfanor engage Evatine. For all of your friend's might, you worry about his chances of taking on Cynfanor in a one on one fight. And if Evatine falls, you doubt that your warriors will win the fight between mortals.

So while you have no doubts that Cynfanor is stronger and more powerful than you, you attempt to engage him anyway. With your decision made, you move to intercept Cynfanor as he charges towards Evatine.

A good many warriors stand between Cynfanor and Evatine, but the lightning warrior-spirit does not care. Channelling his power, he unleashes a massive arc of lightning at the mortals between him and your friend.

The lightning surges through Avawyrish, Bedywnish and Evalonish warriors alike. Such is the force of the attack that you yourself are thrown back by it.

As you get back to your feet, you can hear the sizzling of burning flesh and screams of the mortal warriors slain by ruthless Cynfanor. When you get back up, a full quarter of the Avawyrish-Evalonish army is gone and Cynfanor is halfway across the corpse-filled ground on his way to the now exposed Evatine.

Looking around at the corpses of your followers, you feel cold. Over thirty of your followers have been slain in a single blow by Cynfanor.

The spirit who attacked your explorers with no reason. The spirit who has captured your daughter and changed her. The spirit who has just slain so many of your people without blinking an eye.

He has wronged you. He wronged your family, both those who share your blood and those who you might as well call your family.

And now he goes for Evatine, one of your closest friends and whom you will would happily call your brother.

You will not allow Cynfanor to wrong you and your family again, no matter how strong or powerful he might be.

As you can feel the energy of your warriors fading, you gather it to you instinctively and forged into something new. Into the bonds that you have with them and the responsibilities that you owe them.

And with that, you become more than you were before as something that you are becomes something clear and a solid truth.

New Trait Gained:
Spirit of Fatherhood: Bonus to Leadership, Bonus to Persuade, Improved Family Interactions, Bonus to Protecting Family,

Drawing upon the cold rage within you and your Aspect of the Wildcat, you let out an angry howl and charge at Cynfanor as he smashes side the barrage of spears that Evatine fires off at him.

Distracted by his focus on Evatine, Cynfanor does not react to you until it is too late. As you embrace the power that your Aspect of the Wildcat gives you, you chomp down on the back of Cynfanor's neck, your fangs sinking into his flesh.

Letting out an angry growl, Cynfanor unleashes massive blast of lighting at you and with the two of you physically connected, he is unable to miss.

You can feel the lightning searing your body as it courses through it and it is only with your newfound power that you do not break before it. Even then it is still not enough and Cynfanor slowly forces you to yield before him.

As you are forced to leash your grip on him, Cynfanor spins around and slams a fist into your gut, sending you flying backwards.

As you stagger to your feet, grunting in pain, you hear lightning clashing against Evatine's liquid protection. Focusing on Cynfanor, you are barely able to see the next punch coming let alone have even a chance at dodging.

With several painful cracks as Cynfanor pulverises your chest, you go flying backwards and crashing into the ground, leaving a large gorge in the earth.

Struggling to hold your avatar together after suffering what would be instantly fatal injuries if you were mortal.

With his bloody eye and snarling face, Cynfanor marches over to you, summoning a spear of lightning in his right hand.

"I do not know who you are or why you have attacked my people," says Cynfanor in a deep, guttural voice, "But you shall regret it."

"It is you who shall regret going after my family," you hiss back.

Cynfanor pauses as he stands over you and you can practically see the realisation going through his head.

"You are-gahh!" starts Cynfanor before letting out a cry of pain as the blade of Evatine's new weapon goes through his chest.

"You will die," says Evatine as if stating a fact.

Treating another fatal injury as if it was nothing, Cynfanor unleashes more lightning, all of it directed at Evatine. But your friend does not falter before your foe and instead summons his liquid protection to block, absorb and direct the lightning that Cynfanor sends his way.

And yet, you can already tell that Evatine is not the one winning that duel and if it continues as it is, it is only a matter of time before Evatine's defences yield.

Knowing that needs to be done, you gather what energy you have left at your disposal and struggle to your feet.

But then Cynfanor stops as horror spreads across his face.

"No!" roars Cynfanor, but it is too late as his avatar breaks down and the spiritual energies are pulled back towards the village.

With Cynfanor gone and his power dispersed, there is enough energy for you to claim as your own. And as of such, you do so.

Pick One Upgrade
[] Aspect of Lightning.
[] Aspect of the Chief.
[] Aspect of Earth.
[] Aspect of Rock.
[] Upgrade Aspect of the Wildcat to Spirit of the Wildcat.
 
Pick One Upgrade
[] Aspect of Lightning. - Makes us Zeus w/o the authority but w/ the power (of lightning). Possibly more excitable/demanding personality. Might steal lightning from Cyn.
[] Aspect of the Chief. - Blends pretty well w/ Fatherhood to make us the patriarchal chief deity. "Arthur" to Evatine's "Merlin." Possibly more demanding/commanding personality. Lack of immediate power upfront to combat any retaliation by Cyn.
[] Aspect of Earth. - Makes us more suited for the mountainside, with an emphasis on soil or fertility & growth. (Gaia-ish?). Stubborn but not immovable, gentler personality.
[] Aspect of Rock. - Makes us more suited for the mountainside, with an emphasis on stonework(?) and maybe avalanches. Sterner personality, more immovable.
[] Upgrade Aspect of the Wildcat to Spirit of the Wildcat. - Makes our cathood stronk.

E:
... On second thought, I want our pantheon/civ to prosper and I feel that a) the Chief aspect won't help with that directly and b) that our Spirit of Fatherhood trait + Evatine's general amiableness means that we do not yet have a need for a centralized hierarchy.

[X] Aspect of Earth
 
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@Oshha Is Cyn dead?
Explain difference between Earth & Rock, por favore.
Are Evatine's civ/Man abilities tied to leadership or simply to planning?
What is the effect of an Aspect -> Spirit shift?
Did we get Spirit of Fatherhood, as stated, or was that an error and we got Aspect of Fatherhood??
 
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[X] Intercept Cynfanor. Regardless of whether he hits your mortal followers or goes for Evatine, Cynfanor need to stop or at least delayed and you are the only one for that job.

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You cannot let Cynfanor engage Evatine. For all of your friend's might, you worry about his chances of taking on Cynfanor in a one on one fight. And if Evatine falls, you doubt that your warriors will win the fight between mortals.

So while you have no doubts that Cynfanor is stronger and more powerful than you, you attempt to engage him anyway. With your decision made, you move to intercept Cynfanor as he charges towards Evatine.

A good many warriors stand between Cynfanor and Evatine, but the lightning warrior-spirit does not care. Channelling his power, he unleashes a massive arc of lightning at the mortals between him and your friend.

The lightning surges through Avawyrish, Bedywnish and Evalonish warriors alike. Such is the force of the attack that you yourself are thrown back by it.

As you get back to your feet, you can hear the sizzling of burning flesh and screams of the mortal warriors slain by ruthless Cynfanor. When you get back up, a full quarter of the Avawyrish-Evalonish army is gone and Cynfanor is halfway across the corpse-filled ground on his way to the now exposed Evatine.

Looking around at the corpses of your followers, you feel cold. Over thirty of your followers have been slain in a single blow by Cynfanor.

The spirit who attacked your explorers with no reason. The spirit who has captured your daughter and changed her. The spirit who has just slain so many of your people without blinking an eye.

He has wronged you. He wronged your family, both those who share your blood and those who you might as well call your family.

And now he goes for Evatine, one of your closest friends and whom you will would happily call your brother.

You will not allow Cynfanor to wrong you and your family again, no matter how strong or powerful he might be.

As you can feel the energy of your warriors fading, you gather it to you instinctively and forged into something new. Into the bonds that you have with them and the responsibilities that you owe them.

And with that, you become more than you were before as something that you are becomes something clear and a solid truth.

New Trait Gained:
Spirit of Fatherhood: Bonus to Leadership, Bonus to Persuade, Improved Family Interactions, Bonus to Protecting Family,

Drawing upon the cold rage within you and your Aspect of the Wildcat, you let out an angry howl and charge at Cynfanor as he smashes side the barrage of spears that Evatine fires off at him.

Distracted by his focus on Evatine, Cynfanor does not react to you until it is too late. As you embrace the power that your Aspect of the Wildcat gives you, you chomp down on the back of Cynfanor's neck, your fangs sinking into his flesh.

Letting out an angry growl, Cynfanor unleashes massive blast of lighting at you and with the two of you physically connected, he is unable to miss.

You can feel the lightning searing your body as it courses through it and it is only with your newfound power that you do not break before it. Even then it is still not enough and Cynfanor slowly forces you to yield before him.

As you are forced to leash your grip on him, Cynfanor spins around and slams a fist into your gut, sending you flying backwards.

As you stagger to your feet, grunting in pain, you hear lightning clashing against Evatine's liquid protection. Focusing on Cynfanor, you are barely able to see the next punch coming let alone have even a chance at dodging.

With several painful cracks as Cynfanor pulverises your chest, you go flying backwards and crashing into the ground, leaving a large gorge in the earth.

Struggling to hold your avatar together after suffering what would be instantly fatal injuries if you were mortal.

With his bloody eye and snarling face, Cynfanor marches over to you, summoning a spear of lightning in his right hand.

"I do not know who you are or why you have attacked my people," says Cynfanor in a deep, guttural voice, "But you shall regret it."

"It is you who shall regret going after my family," you hiss back.

Cynfanor pauses as he stands over you and you can practically see the realisation going through his head.

"You are-gahh!" starts Cynfanor before letting out a cry of pain as the blade of Evatine's new weapon goes through his chest.

"You will die," says Evatine as if stating a fact.

Treating another fatal injury as if it was nothing, Cynfanor unleashes more lightning, all of it directed at Evatine. But your friend does not falter before your foe and instead summons his liquid protection to block, absorb and direct the lightning that Cynfanor sends his way.

And yet, you can already tell that Evatine is not the one winning that duel and if it continues as it is, it is only a matter of time before Evatine's defences yield.

Knowing that needs to be done, you gather what energy you have left at your disposal and struggle to your feet.

But then Cynfanor stops as horror spreads across his face.

"No!" roars Cynfanor, but it is too late as his avatar breaks down and the spiritual energies are pulled back towards the village.

With Cynfanor gone and his power dispersed, there is enough energy for you to claim as your own. And as of such, you do so.

Pick One Upgrade
[] Aspect of Lightning.
[] Aspect of the Chief.
[] Aspect of Earth.
[] Aspect of Rock.
[] Upgrade Aspect of the Wildcat to Spirit of the Wildcat.
So, is Cynfanor dead and we are looting his corpse, or is this just the excess spirit stuff from his avatar?

[X] Aspect of Earth

This is more varied than Rock, and would let us do more with all types of land instead of just rocks and boulders.

I want to see if we can start making earthen structures and such with this, now.

We can also move towards possibly shaping rock, in order to have the environment better suit our needs.
 
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@Oshha Is Cyn dead?
Explain difference between Earth & Rock, por favore.
Are Evatine's civ/Man abilities tied to leadership or simply to planning?
What is the effect of an Aspect -> Spirit shift?

Yes, but neither you or Evatine killed him.

Rock is purely based around rocks, boulders and stones while Earth is that plus the soil and ground. One is more specialised while the other is more varied.

Civ includes long-term planning and organisation because that's civilisation and also gives a leadership bonus while Man gives more leadership bonuses, but those are situational and require certain conditions to take effect.


An upgraded version that is stronger and comes with more abilities/effects, but also ties the Concept more deeply to the entity. Think how the Aspect of the Wildcat makes Gwarlon a little bit more cat-like while his daughters are more likely cat-like due to the Spirit of the Wildcat and has a greater impact on their personality and actions.


So, is Cynfanor dead and we are looting his corpse, or is this just the excess spirit stuff from his avatar?

The latter, but the first part of the former is also correct.
 
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