Skitterdoc 2077

That was bloody awesome a real joy to read thanks for the update.

The brain in a jar is going to get her a lot of respect when that story gets around, less of a positive point she has just shown off a skill set that I'm not sure even real ripperdocs would have… so not sure if what she did isn't that hard or if she thinks it isn't that hard.

Still the story of her sticking someone's brain in jar to access there data is probably going to get around and give her some street cred at least among the claws.

Thanks for the great chapter.
 
4 gauge would be close to 27mm and 17,000 ft-lbs is a little over 23,000 newtons. At that point you may as well include high explosive ammunition instead of solid slugs, because I mean, why not? That's the same calibre as the cannon on the Eurofighter Typhoon.
I was looking at it from the standpoint of relatively light 15 -20 lb gun add rifling in to make it a cannon. Then you have the options like HE, AP, API and other technical rounds. You can fit quite a bit in 25 mm. The problem is recoil. Here is some video of a KS23 although I will note there are some errors... the KS23 is slightly smaller than 6 gauge (6-7 gauge really) and the gun they have is marked 4 gauge. This is incorrect. They are also firing under loaded slugs with light powder charges. The real rounds are impressive.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en_55fzWeVo
 
But then she wouldn't be Taylor Hebert
Why not? From what I remember, she usually escalated in response to enemy action. She goes out in costume early originally because she was feeling powerless from the bullies, but she had fully planned on taking her time. And even once she joined the undersiders, it was for a long-term goal of infiltrating them. Taylor in the story currently has a goal and is working towards it, in response to her being kidnapped she got more chrome and made tinker flies and then hit the end of the trail and then there was no other actions against her for her to excalate against. so she returns to her plans. Plus gotta remember that her mental situation is different, I'm not sure her shardlet has a conflict engine, as well as her having memories from a Taylor who had a different life in her head too
 
"Biological immortality" and "bio-indefinite mortality" mean functionally the same thing, its a matter of taste which term you use and the latter is just more clear that the only thing that won't kill you is time/age.
Alrighty. I usually divide immortality into three main categories (which I may or may not have subconsciously copied from overlysarcasticproductions but I am too lazy to confirm): Functional, Conditional and True Immortality.

Functional is not dying unless killed (basically what you described), Conditional is not dying unless x thing happens (like getting your head chopped off), and True is, well, being truly immortal.

See this as an indirect and longwinded way of saying I think definitions are fascinating. Also I like the story a lot, thanks for writing it.
 
Why not? From what I remember, she usually escalated in response to enemy action. She goes out in costume early originally because she was feeling powerless from the bullies, but she had fully planned on taking her time. And even once she joined the undersiders, it was for a long-term goal of infiltrating them. Taylor in the story currently has a goal and is working towards it, in response to her being kidnapped she got more chrome and made tinker flies and then hit the end of the trail and then there was no other actions against her for her to excalate against. so she returns to her plans. Plus gotta remember that her mental situation is different, I'm not sure her shardlet has a conflict engine, as well as her having memories from a Taylor who had a different life in her head too
Taylor is an "unreliable narrator." Largely because she lies to herself. She didn't stay with the Undersiders to gather intel or bring down the gang of villains. That was the lie she told herself because the truth was that she was lonely and they were there. That's it.

Canon!Taylor was trying to find acceptable excuses to die. She wasn't quite suicidal, but she had a disturbingly diminished survival drive. She heard Lung talk about "killing kids" and she jumped to fight him with the understanding that Lung would probably kill her. But at least she'd go out saving "kids."
 
Lastly, as I said earlier, skill chips will still need to be able to override all kinds of reflexive and involuntary movement originating in the brain that would conflict with the chip's input. It seems unlikely that there's a way to do that which wouldn't also let the chip override voluntary movement if it's not programmed to avoid doing that, programming which can be changed.
So in the strictest sense, yes, it could be said that a skill chip must override natural behavior, because as you note if you didn't have the skill chip you'd be doing something different.

However, it can be said that all trained reactions "override" - they initiate before you have a chance to think more about it, "my body just moved like I trained," etc. A feature you could say the brain is meant to have. And a feature where, if once you do think, if you feel the reaction is inappropriate, the brain can stop it. Halt the strike, pull the punch, abort the jump. And if it happens enough, the 'triggers' are revised to be less sensitive.

This is a behavior that skill chips must also have. Otherwise, you'd constantly be crushing your coworkers throats when they startle you.

More importantly, from a security perspective, it is a behavior that must be enforced. It would be implemented in the chip socket, not in the skill shard-- the "operating system" versus the "app." At a software and hardware level, the system would be designed, all the way down, to prevent the chip sockets from being used for doll chip like override. Just as phone OSes make every effort to prevent apps from achieving certain things, even if the phone itself or manufacturer-approved apps can.

And then there are things doll chips need that skill chips never do. Shutting off consciousness, suppressing memories, direct control of the body by software completely circumventing the brain, etc. And since people don't even want skill chips to do those things, those abilities won't be available not only for security reasons but because overengineering is bad engineering.

Speaking of software-- it cannot be assumed that skill chips are software. After all, they are meant to be like memory, information or action. Real memories don't need executables to work. So the content of skill chips could very easily be formatted data, meant to be run in programming already in the socket or neuralware. Making doll chip like automation impossible for yet another reason.


Of course, this stuff doesn't matter in isolation. It matters only when paired with the way the technologies are percieved. People who would want to use skill chips are often people who would never tolerate doll chips for both social and security reasons. Therefore, be it differences in implementation or software, skill chips must be unable to puppet people the way doll chips can, or the most valuable customers would never use them.
 
Of course, this stuff doesn't matter in isolation. It matters only when paired with the way the technologies are percieved. People who would want to use skill chips are often people who would never tolerate doll chips for both social and security reasons. Therefore, be it differences in implementation or software, skill chips must be unable to puppet people the way doll chips can, or the most valuable customers would never use them.
You know, I could go on a long essay at this point again reiterating at length why I think that, by necessity, skillchips and their sockets would have to be able to highjack bodily movement as a basic outgrowth of their function, if not for circumventable software restrictions as well as the tabletop authors' understandable unwillingness to research quite that depth of neuroscience.
But quite frankly, at this point that seems unlikely to accomplish anything except to produce a repeat of what we've already said, ad nauseam, and also I just plain don't care to anymore.

Instead, all I'll say is this: We have just had a mention in-story of how disturbingly nonchalant people in 2077 are about the things they willingly put into their heads. Are you quite sure that hackable skillchips would be the big exception? I'm not.
 
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That she can speedrun through neurosurgery, is going to raise less questions, than that she appears to be not only trained but prepared for this kind of thing.

Speaking of Tyger rep, low key curious to what her reward will be. Leaning towards w/e else the man or his associates had been smuggling/transporting. Mostly because I expect it to be something that she'll use for sometime, (like her previous boons,) and because smuggling one or even a bunch of kids halfway across the globe is going to be a rough thing to make a profit on. (Shipping is dead, and airship cargo space is going to be expensive.)


Huh, And I felt robbed when he didn't use the regular HMG.
 
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That she can speedrun through neurosurgery, is going to raise less questions, than that she appears to be not only trained but prepared for this kind of thing.
Do you think she could bring her 'hat box' on Trauma Team runs?

"Yes, the patient survived, but I've got his brain in here, and his cryo preserved body over there. Do we deliver both to the hospital for reassembly? Oh, and, yeah, I need my 'hat box' back."

Speaking of Tyger rep, low key curious to what her reward will be. Leaning towards w/e else the man or his associates had been smuggling/transporting. Mostly because I expect it to be something that she'll use for sometime, (like her previous boons,) and because smuggling one or even a bunch of kids halfway across the globe is going to be a rough thing to make a profit on. (Shipping is dead, and airship cargo space is going to be expensive.)
A black market whole-body cloning system would be nice... You know, the sort that (reasonably quickly) produces healthy up-to-adult bodies from a few stem cells, ready to transplant older brains into...
 
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Do you think she could bring her 'hat box' on Trauma Team runs?

Doubt it would make it through peer reviews, and you know, the whole frankenstein skit.

A black market whole-body cloning system would be nice... You know, the sort that (reasonably quickly) produces healthy up-to-adult bodies from a few stem cells, ready to transplant older brains into...

Regular nanovat would've been ambitious, (and kinda hard to conceal with her whole not a ripper thing)

but, why would she clone entire bodies, only to slip another brain into em? They'd already be a blank slate, and prepped for indoctrination/surgery. (genuine question, might be overlooking something)
 
but, why would she clone entire bodies, only to slip another brain into em? They'd already be a blank slate, and prepped for indoctrination/surgery. (genuine question, might be overlooking something)
Backups. For herself, and others. Also, likely not as popular as 'real' people, but could sell them to the business next door, with doll chips ready installed, and a minimal 'not working' body maintenance OS.

This would likely also satisfy her need for neural tissue, if she mostly wants 'lower brain' stuff. And, with this, I'm pretty sure she could fudge it to make suitably 'exercised' higher brain tissue.

Spare bodies, to mess with, may also keep her shard-let happy, and be adequate security staff to remote control. But, while might provide bits for an 'Igor', I suspect she'll need something 'special' to complete this.
 
The Tygers can't give her those things. Last time they got the ripper equipment from a flatlined ripper and an apartment from their apartment building. Where do they get cloning machines or a nanovat?

Why not give her stuff they have? Loyal gonks to do her bidding. The cowboy samurai, the kidnapped younglings she helped save. Maybe Evelyn and Mr. Maximilian? If she builds them into a strong, loyal faction of the Tygers all the better.
 
They're bound to get a hold of stuff from time to time that they can't use. Instead of selling it for a fraction of its value, why not give it to her so she can occasionally use it to pull their ass out of the fire?
 
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Was more of a sidetrack to what the smuggler or his associates could be, well, smuggling/handling. Sort of like how she was gifted with Fingers's equipment, tools and stock. (If less likely, and a bit overly ambitious)

Though its not really a boon to Taylor to give her her 'friends and/or acquaintances', don't think they would appreciate to be drafted for her future surgeries either. (Future since she isn't a ripperdoc)
 
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I think the most valuable things Taylor could hypothetically receive as payment, other than just money, would be weird and experimental cyber- and/or bioware. Just getting, say, really top-of-the-line cybereyes to look at would be of limited use since it would mostly just be the same tech she's already looked at a hundred times only refined, whereas if she found some sort of fucked up prototype bio-eyes it might allow her power to open up an entire new branch of optics tech which she could then Tinker into something much more useful than the expensive standard stuff. Not to say that she's likely to get any of that off of this particular job, but it's something she'd be interested in that most people in-universe might not consider worthwhile.
 
So is Taylor bisexual and she just hasn't noticed or does she just coincidentally enjoy lesbian braindances and was actually just musing about the waitresses underwear and not checking her out?
 
Now that I think about it, she has the brain in the jar still alive and connected to a computer for data extraction, I wonder how long it would take a completely sensory-deprived conscious brain, to figure out and adapt to interfacing with that connection? I could see Taylor going to get ready to cut it up for spiderbot construction, only to see that the brain had somehow learned how to scream via text. She could poke around with it for a few days, learning how to set up a super-efficient direct machine/brain interface device that doesn't need to interface through the brain stem or optic nerve.

The entire time the guy would be a living version of the phrase, "I have no mouth, and I must scream" (also a kind of cyberpunk book that Taylor may have read) which would probably give her some interesting data. She could dump him into brain dances just to see how much controlling all stimulation can control the mind or any number of fucked up things. He should hope and pray he quickly becomes spider parts, cause I don't think his continued existence would be very pleasant.
 
Okay but you're dodging the most important question:

Can a pigeon go cyberpsycho?
Mrs. PegPig: I'm strong. No one can stop me. You think you're scary, BigBadFALCON? Take that! <PIGEONSMASH!>
Consort PegPig: Coo coo! You're so hot, Mrs. PegPig.
Mrs. PegPig: Ooh Yeah! I'm unstoppable!!!
Taylor: <Grabs her pigeon> How you doing, little birb? Ready for your Doctor Appointment?

Mrs. PegPig 25 minutes later: uhm. I thought it over. I'm not that special. I'm all better now.

CYBERBIRBCHOSIS [....] AVERTED!
 
Loving the fic :)
Concerning how 'hot' that body is Taylor should be getting the claws to dispose of it. Even just to make sure the trail doesn't end in her apartment.

A lot of things seem to be going Taylors way recently :? Astor family wheel greasing?
Might just be me being paranoid about things going well in a worm/cyberpunk fic lol

As far as new weapons, upgrading her lungs/cardiovascular system and going full aerosol is likely to be fairley easy for her current tech base and pay dividends for a long time.
 
Now that I think about it, she has the brain in the jar still alive and connected to a computer for data extraction
One way of thinking about it is that she now has a 'volunteer' for total mind upload experiments. Non-destructive ones too, that would make 'Soulkiller' look like... a student BASIC program.

Why? Well, having 'stealth' engram copying, so the copyee doesn't know it has been done, and is unharmed (I'd expect this would take several hours...), allowing merging after the engram and the original has disconnected/diverged, so both are the same, taking quick 'delta' copies so a stored engram stays up-to-date, allowing multiple stable engrams to be stuck into one brain, to 'share', or passively hide... So many possibilities!

And, once she has uploading working right, all she needs is a few suitable 'blank' brains ('used' ones are likely unsuitable) to experiment with downloading!

Yeah, she could probably market an easily portable engram storage device, say based on DNA storage (I'm pretty sure that while 'writing' this will be slow, 'reading' could be reasonably fast). I doubt the normal (data)shard storage will be big enough for even a single engram...

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If she wants to keep this brain healthy, maybe she'll throw together a Virtual World to provide stimulation? Hack a BD system? Arrange a scheme so that others can 'enter' this VW? Communicate with brain? She could even sell this as a service! :)

*cough* Taunt the Kidnapper! *cough*
('Torture the Kidnapper' would almost certainly be against her medical ethics.)

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Don't know if it would interest her, or her shard-let, but she could try and gain experimental evidence as to whether souls exist, associated with natural grown or assembled bodies, in this corner of the multiverse...
 
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While Taylor's morality might be uhh... adjusting from Earth-Bet norms, I still don't think she's at the point where she's ready to put this guy's consciousness in the Torment Nexus. Chopping the brain down into bits of neural tissue for spiderbot controls will kill him, and she's okay with killing him. Trapping him in the Matrix would be less merciful. Besides, she can't do both, and she's been wanting to build a spiderbot for ages.
 
Besides, she can't do both, and she's been wanting to build a spiderbot for ages.
She could do both, just has to drop him into an unconscious state, figure-out what bits she needs for spider-bots, copy anything important in those bits, and finish the full uploading later. Her shard-let might even help her clone neural tissue, from stem cells, to stretch one brain a lot further, for multiple bots.

I'm pretty sure that cloned neurals need the right stimulation, faked-up sensory feeds and muscle effector feedback, to develop right (see neural plasticity). And, she'd want to be able to do that pretty reliably and effectively, to build her spider-bot army... sorry, 'large medical staff'. :)

Also... uploading into a private system, maybe a 'biocomputer', which has air-gapped security from the Matrix - you'd have to be pretty unwise to do anything else.
 
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The use of the Fly creator would provide a service that Taylor could use to locate bounty targets for known DNA, She has no problem killing very bad men, so just profit?

Why don't people put something to cover their shard ports to prevent someone from slotting things in easily? One attack seems to be to cosh someone and slot a shard into their port when vulnerable. If you could make it so it looks like things are slotting in but are instead inert, that could provide a bit of time to recover, or attack?
 
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