Nah, don't change it because i want, it's your omake, feel free to write it how you wish.

Just curious how they reached that conclusion just like that. They would be the only ones that thing that eggman is desesperarte right now.

Well the VCI just arrive on Green Hills in this omake and they come from a complete different setting that don't have mad scientists or super fast hedgehogs.

Like the same is true for Eggman. He don't really see the Empire as a threat despite having a super soldier on their side and they manage to take substancial gains from Zavok because the doctor think the Zeti is being stupid to his robots instead because the Empire is actually winning agaisnt them.

Like people from Sonic know what the doctor is capable off given time and never look like what he appears.

Like for someone IRL life that lnows nothing about Eggman would assume he is just a petty warlord that is lucky, have no facilites or population to his side, surround by enemies and factions don't like him and lacks major allies to help him. While having another warlod that have manage to somehow take over his entire infrastructure and would stop at nothing to kill him.

Investigating more about Green Hills Conrad would slowly change his mind about the doctor, but he still would be skeptical of some of his stants he made.
 
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For training the Darcsens, we have the option for Isara, the Pronghorns, Conquering Storm and Canaan, likely each will turn the characters into different forces. Conquering Storm will probably turn them into assassins and saboteurs who go behind enemy lines. Isara might make more of an armored regiment. The Pronghorns I think are more like regular soldiers, making them straightforward fighters. Canaan... maybe more like a special forces team? Small in number but very strong?

I prefer regular soldiers, we need frontlines troops that are not able to be controlled by the D6 and be cheap as well. Egg Clan just give a +5 and is too expensive to be deployed in normal combat.

For training the Darcsen, it's probably best to turn them into something that the Badniks aren't going to cover anyways. Badniks can be built for any given purpose, but they're mostly being built for straightforward combat. Part of the point of them is that they're easily disposable mooks, supposed to overwhelm the enemy and it's no big loss if they bite it doing so. In the long game (namely once the Zeti are taken care of), training them into frontliners becomes less valuable as well. Especially since we can now study Zeena and make countermeasures to Zeti control anyways.

Egg Clan covers infiltration and sabotage, so I'm inclined to go more for special forces or armored regiment.

Also, just from a moral and pragmatic perspective, as living beings, the Darcsen are less disposible. They don't replenish as easily and several of our heroes are going to be less bothered by losing Badniks compared to people. So that's another reason why I'd prefer to train them for a role that should give them less casualties.
 
Fuck I forgot to do the sacrifices to the dice gods
Then we need to sacrifices you to the dice gods next time.
Can we please not do this the QMs ask us to cut out this type of talk.


Well then, if we aren't allowed to sacrifice, we shall just move on to a new method.
Lads, let's contact the Elder Gods and beseech them for good rolls!
 
For training the Darcsen, it's probably best to turn them into something that the Badniks aren't going to cover anyways. Badniks can be built for any given purpose, but they're mostly being built for straightforward combat. Part of the point of them is that they're easily disposable mooks, supposed to overwhelm the enemy and it's no big loss if they bite it doing so. In the long game (namely once the Zeti are taken care of), training them into frontliners becomes less valuable as well. Especially since we can now study Zeena and make countermeasures to Zeti control anyways.

Egg Clan covers infiltration and sabotage, so I'm inclined to go more for special forces or armored regiment.

Also, just from a moral and pragmatic perspective, as living beings, the Darcsen are less disposible. They don't replenish as easily and several of our heroes are going to be less bothered by losing Badniks compared to people. So that's another reason why I'd prefer to train them for a role that should give them less casualties.

We need organic troops that can't be take over by the D6 this is why transform them into front line combatants is ideal or you can always transform them into defense specialist. That give them bonus into defensive battles, it would fit into their whole thing as non-violent thing since they primary would serve a defensive role.

Still I want them as front lines to serve as strong message to the Empire and hope them to serve as the bulk of Isara's army when we send her to Europa in the future to be more approachable to the inhabitants there.
 
@Kingster I change the wording on the omake because I realize you are probably right. Conrad now think Eggman have some lucky breaks but don't think much of his odds in the future without control of his factories and robotic army that are currently on Zavok hands.

I think this si a reasonable stance for someone that is not aware what Dr. Eggman is capable off.
 
Uh oh I just had a really horrid thought
Uhhh since time is a pretzel right now
Could some events that are supposed to happen in the future/past happen now
Such as a certain anchient evil in the planets core awakening early again
 
Eh, pretty sure Dark Gaia is still having his beauty sleep.

Like despite everything he is a world wide threat and his monsters are fairly noticeable as the things start spawning during every single night.

We would have seen one if we got to that point.
 
Not convinced about training just regular (or even elite) flesh and blood soldiers.

We have Badniks for that and we can spend them far more easily.

Maybe getting organic Commanders would be worthwhile, but we can make grunts just fine.

Isara train her own armored forces is also fine, but we should design some decent tank/mech first, no daughter of our will command anything but the best forces we can create.
 
Eh, pretty sure Dark Gaia is still having his beauty sleep.

Like despite everything he is a world wide threat and his monsters are fairly noticeable as the things start spawning during every single night.

We would have seen one if we got to that point.
I'm saying he might awaken early again cause time is a pretzel or someone will poke him
 
Not convinced about training just regular (or even elite) flesh and blood soldiers.

We have Badniks for that and we can spend them far more easily.

Maybe getting organic Commanders would be worthwhile, but we can make grunts just fine.

Isara train her own armored forces is also fine, but we should design some decent tank/mech first, no daughter of our will command anything but the best forces we can create.
Yeah, organic troops are better off as our police or occupying force with certain exceptions like the Egg clan.
 
Not convinced about training just regular (or even elite) flesh and blood soldiers.

We have Badniks for that and we can spend them far more easily.

Maybe getting organic Commanders would be worthwhile, but we can make grunts just fine.

Isara train her own armored forces is also fine, but we should design some decent tank/mech first, no daughter of our will command anything but the best forces we can create.

Organic troops are versatile and if going by the Egg Clan has more than 1 HP meaning they can take a beating.

Like organic troops could go in place where robots can't operate and be more approachable than robots or or being controlled or take over by the Zeti

Like the Egg Army was exactly that and Eggman would not keep them around just to look at walls and doing nothing in Post-SGW. I laways give the impression they cybernetic implants do make the more formidable than the common grunt soldier.

I mean for now the Egg Clan gives +15 infiltration and +5 on Trickery and combat. That is a quite versitle role overall.

Maybe we can train siege troops specialists or something because the Egg Hammer is too expensive at the moment and Balkyrias eat 5 Power Cap just to give a +10 in siege and +5 in combat.

Edit: once we recruit Axel he would provide motorized troops so we actually need frontline troops that are quite good and don't cost too much Power Cap and good on combat rolls that can last more than a bad roll.
 
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Organic troops are versatile and if going by the Egg Clan has more than 1 HP meaning they can take a beating.

Like organic troops could go in place where robots can't operate and be more approachable than robots or or being controlled or take over by the Zeti

Like the Egg Army was exactly that and Eggman would not keep them around just to look at walls and doing nothing in Post-SGW. I laways give the impression they cybernetic implants do make the more formidable than the common grunt soldier.

I mean for now the Egg Clan gives +15 infiltration and +5 on Trickery and combat. That is a quite versitle role overall.

Maybe we can train siege troops specialists or something because the Egg Hammer is too expensive at the moment and Balkyrias eat 5 Power Cap just to give a +10 in siege and +5 in combat.
to be fair, one thing that organic troops that needs to be said. contrary to heroes, they get to 0 HP...they dead.

Yeah, Egg clan was close to be wiped out in the raid or at least enought hat it wouldn't be possible to deploy unless conquering storm trained more forces.

Thats the good point of badniks, you can trhow them to their deaths without really losing much.

Organic troops do not have the pleasure of being fixed in factories sadly.

Should have mentioned that before. Sorry about that.
 
Organic troops are versatile and if going by the Egg Clan has more than 1 HP meaning they can take a beating.

Like organic troops could go in place where robots can't operate such as been take over by the Zeti, be more approachable than robots.
That's fair but it's not like won't gather our own elite organic troops at some point. There's the Nameless out there, Isara's old militia squad, and plenty others. Why spend time training and spending ordinary people's lives when we can use badniks instead? Let's just focus on a few core elite organic troops rather than letting them die.

Edit: Oh and theres what was said by the Qm.
 
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Yeah, organic troops are better off as our police or occupying force with certain exceptions like the Egg clan.

Not convinced, since we're probably have to deal with potential corruption and rebel symphatizers. But I think it could be mitigated by mixing them with robots, we will have to see.

Organic troops are versatile and if going by the Egg Clan has more than 1 HP meaning they can take a beating.

Yeah, but compared to Badniks organic soldiers are pain in the eggshell to replace and have all sorts of needs we would have to take care of.
 
to be fair, one thing that organic troops that needs to be said. contrary to heroes, they get to 0 HP...they dead.

Yeah, Egg clan was close to be wiped out in the raid or at least enought hat it wouldn't be possible to deploy unless conquering storm trained more forces.

Thats the good point of badniks, you can trhow them to their deaths without really losing much.

Organic troops do not have the pleasure of being fixed in factories sadly.

So...what's the good point of non-hero organic forces?
 
Not convinced, since we're probably have to deal with potential corruption and rebel symphatizers. But I think it could be mitigated by mixing them with robots, we will have to see.
I kinda see training organic troops a future investment as in the future when we get our empire back from zavok and co, the darscens are going to be in our territory soon and with limited badnicks for now, having some orgo troops that the incoming darscens are coming in, would prevent a lot of tensions for a bit
 
to be fair, one thing that organic troops that needs to be said. contrary to heroes, they get to 0 HP...they dead.

Yeah, Egg clan was close to be wiped out in the raid or at least enought hat it wouldn't be possible to deploy unless conquering storm trained more forces.

Thats the good point of badniks, you can trhow them to their deaths without really losing much.

Organic troops do not have the pleasure of being fixed in factories sadly.

Should have mentioned that before. Sorry about that.
That's fair but it's not like won't gather our own elite organic troops at some point. There's the Nameless out there, Isara's old militia squad, and plenty others. Why spend time training and spending ordinary people's lives when we can use badniks instead? Let's just focus on a few core elite organic troops rather than letting them die.

I don't propose we treat them as disposable troops but is good to have something to defend our territory and serve as occupation force, propaganda as well, also they could go on adventures and not scare the locals.

So...what's the good point of non-hero organic forces?

I mean they would be smart than the common badniks at least and are versatile as well too, plus can take a beating.
 
So...what's the good point of non-hero organic forces?

Well, they can be versatile, you can train the Darcsen and depending on the hero unit assigned, they will obtain different bonuses and stats. Not so....limited as badniks that each model is one thing, they can develop and grow.

They are not static forces, might start at 0 but you an set them how to they should grow
 
Well, they can be versatile, you can train the Darcsen and depending on the hero unit assigned, they will obtain different bonuses and stats. Not so....limited as badniks that each model is one thing, they can develop and grow.

They are not static forces, might start at 0 but you an set them how to they should grow

Yeah like we can even give them better weapons and armor as well, not to mention what cybernetic enhancement could do to them.

Also any upgrades would applied on them immediately, different from badniks that to get them shiny new toys we would have to produce new ones.

It's that accurate @Kingster?
 
Yeah like we can even give them better weapons and armor as well, not to mention what cybernetic enhancement could do to them.

Also any upgrades would applied on them immediately, different from badniks that to get them shiny new toys we would have to produce new ones.

It's that accurate @Kingster?
that's correct, on the case of equipment, training and the like do would still need an action to do.

But yeah upgrades you make you can just straight throw it at the darcsen so they use it right away
 
Well, they can be versatile, you can train the Darcsen and depending on the hero unit assigned, they will obtain different bonuses and stats. Not so....limited as badniks that each model is one thing, they can develop and grow.

They are not static forces, might start at 0 but you an set them how to they should grow

...Wait. We can train them more than once?

Like the Upgrade Metal actions?

that's correct, on the case of equipment, training and the like do would still need an action to do.

But yeah upgrades you make you can just straight throw it at the darcsen so they use it right away

And they get straight access to the results of our tech tree?


Ohoho! The Empire isn't going to like this.
 
Well, they can be versatile, you can train the Darcsen and depending on the hero unit assigned, they will obtain different bonuses and stats. Not so....limited as badniks that each model is one thing, they can develop and grow.

They are not static forces, might start at 0 but you an set them how to they should grow
So would their role and capabilities change depending on the hero their assigned to? Like if we assign them to Isara, would they become combat engineers, Tank experts, or airplane pilots?

I wonder if that means if we assign them to Belle, will they become diplomats or just better at cheering her up after every scary experience she goes through.
 
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