Would be treated as a super badnik most likely, unless you guys can develop it enough and have the badnik gain enough of narrative relevance to obtain hero unit status,

Thought also depends of what hero unit you try to copy,
Pulling a Metal Sonic with Selvaria…won't be as easy as you think, if you are trying to copy her Valkyrie powers to any extent, that do is gonna requiere lots of research. You are not pulling a Metal version if anything at first try, even Eggman has to go throught Mecha and similar variants with Sonic before getting Metal.
So basically if we want to make a mecha version we would have to start the first time Eggman made metal sonic which was silver sonic and then progressively continue to upgrade and update the metal version like how metal sonic got to how he is today.

Is that correct?
 
So basically if we want to make a mecha version we would have to start the first time Eggman made metal sonic which was silver sonic and then progressively continue to upgrade and update the metal version like how metal sonic got to how he is today.

Is that correct?
Maybe not that exactly but yeah, would need to start with a. Prototype somewhere, also depends how you go about copying her abilities.

Also need lots of research to go there, visual and Metal Sonic bio data if Selvaria is a good first step, but might need eggman to crack the secrets of rag bite first unless you can somehow imitate her whole Valkyrie powers another way

Good news is with every fight with her will get closer and closer to that perfect Metal counterpart as we gather more biodata
ehh. You would need several encounters most likely if you are relying on Metals Biodata absorption alone for that, Not sure you wanna get into many fights with Selvaria? She is not Sonic that she is fine with letting Eggman live, you assault them, don't expect her to hold her punches.

I'm not kidding with I'm saying she hits Sonic and Shadow level of fighter.
 
ehh. You would need several encounters most likely if you are relying on Metals Biodata absorption alone for that, Not sure you wanna get into many fights with Selvaria? She is not Sonic that she is fine with letting Eggman live, you assault them, don't expect her to hold her punches.
That and studying the secrets of ragnite
And the lance
Also stick a biodata absorption on the metal Selvaria to help it along
 
Hopefully once we infiltrate the empire, we can unlock some new options that can collect data on her especially seeing as she is their primary combatant.
 
Hopefully once we infiltrate the empire, we can unlock some new options that can collect data on her especially seeing as she is their primary combatant.
I mean, pretty sure the only way Eggman made the silver, mecha, and metal Sonics was with lot of research of data he obtained from all the encounters he had.

So if you aren't able to get as much data combat as eggman did with sonic…things might be a bit hard,

If you somehow were able to actually capture selvaria or a living Valkyrie and study their powers in a controlled environment from eggman…that would be a huge boon for research…

But good luck actually doing that.


Also gonna need to crack Ragnite and understand more how Valkyries work. Literally eggman has no idea what selvaria can do aside from glowing blue and wields a lance and shield.
 
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Technically we pulled a metal first on Sonic.

But that was due sheer hatred, rage, spite and everything in between due to the doctor suffering his first defeat (since timeline goes from 1 to CD to 2).

And even then he had an edge due to the BS nature of Little Planet time travel.

And even after that he couldn't replace ever Metal after his defeat on Stardust speedway since every single other copy of the blue pest was inferior to Metal in every way and he could never replicate that work of his really, so he had to go back to little planet to get back Metal.

So practically creating a Metal version is possible, but to pull it first try not only we need the research of our enemies, but also the sheer spite andd rage he felt after that first defeat at sonic hands to even come close to pulling it off again.
 
We can't really do that considering that only valkyires can use it
We could copy her biodata and shove it in a robot to be able to use it I'd think

Prince Maximillian did manage to use one but was thanks to technology and quite a cost of his own person. Either way VC proves that technology can force Valkirya equipment to activate.

However the Empire may be outdated by they far ahead of Eggman in ragnite's research and application.

I don't think Eggman will ever make banikd be powered by them since they are too unstable without a cooling system and even if Eggman is capable the cooling system itself would too bothersome and costly to be mass produced

Eggman however has advantage over the Empire, Ragnite are located quite deep on the Earth so mine them is a costly and dangerous endevour but his badniks are not human so they can acquire far more than the Empire will ever be able to and with more precision.

I mean, pretty sure the only way Eggman made the silver, mecha, and metal Sonics was with lot of research of data he obtained from all the encounters he had.

So if you aren't able to get as much data combat as eggman did with sonic…things might be a bit hard,

If you somehow were able to actually capture selvaria or a living Valkyrie and study their powers in a controlled environment from eggman…that would be a huge boon for research…

But good luck actually doing that.


Also gonna need to crack Ragnite and understand more how Valkyries work. Literally eggman has no idea what selvaria can do aside from glowing blue and wields a lance and shield.

Yeah Metal Series are the tail end of robotic copies and if going by Metal Sonic and Mecha Sonic, all of the robotic doppelganger develop a case of inferiority complex that need to prove they are superior to they organic counterparts by murdering them.

Also Metal has suffered numerous upgrades through to compete with Sonic to he point it surpass his successors.
 
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Yeah Metal Series are the tail end of robotic copies and if going by Metal Sonic and Mecha Sonic, all of the robotic doppelganger develop a case of inferiority complex that need to prove they are superior to they organic counterparts by murdering them.

Also Metal has suffered numerous upgrades through to compete with Sonic to he point it surpass his successors.
Yep, that's the thing when you make a metal copy they tend to get a very big chip on their shoulder. But one thing is certain we are going to have to install a loyalty program into each metal variance of our robots. That's how sonic heroes kicked off with.
 
You know I'm actually curious why is metal and rusty action to upgrade them is in the power section. Wouldn't be technically brains.
Short answer, because they're weapons.

Long answer, Metal and Rusty aren't so much being completely altered as having new units added to them. That will take time but its still nothing that is actually using Eggman's noggin for a novel idea. It doesn't take too much thinking to install a flamethrower or a speaker unit to a tank and since they're both essentially weapons, we figured Power would be a fine spot to put that.

Or would you like us to give you even more Brain actions when you guys already have too many important ones to do?
 
Short answer, because they're weapons.

Long answer, Metal and Rusty aren't so much being completely altered as having new units added to them. That will take time but its still nothing that is actually using Eggman's noggin for a novel idea. It doesn't take too much thinking to install a flamethrower or a speaker unit to a tank and since they're both essentially weapons, we figured Power would be a fine spot to put that.

Or would you like us to give you even more Brain actions when you guys already have too many important ones to do?
No no I was just asking because I was curious that's all please don't give us more brains action.
 
Yep, that's the thing when you make a metal copy they tend to get a very big chip on their shoulder. But one thing is certain we are going to have to install a loyalty program into each metal variance of our robots. That's how sonic heroes kicked off with.

These loyalty codes are not nearly as iron proof as Eggman believes, Metal has a main drive to prove himself to be the "real" sonic unfulfilling will grant debuffs and if Heroes and Rise of the Wisps go by he will try to find ways to rebel against the doctor to fulfill this desire of his. From trying to have a new form to modify himself just so he can use the energy of Wisps like Sonic.
 
These loyalty codes are not nearly as iron proof as Eggman believes, Metal has a main drive to prove himself to be the "real" sonic unfulfilling will grant debuffs and if Heroes and Rise of the Wisps go by he will try to find ways to rebel against the doctor to fulfill this desire of his. From trying to have a new form to modify himself just so he can use the energy of Wisps like Sonic.
Your making a assumption again
Pretty sure we learned the first time
 
Don't forget the most important upgrade...

You can give Metal Sonic a voice.

Imagine it!!!

My choices for voices:

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=38CvnkrzAOs

Honestly the IDW series does a better job at characters than the games.

Eggman: How dare that Sonic damage you! He wouldn't recognize a work of art if it punched him in the face! You did punch him in the face, right?
Metal Sonic: (silently gives a proud thumbs-up)
Eggman: Attaboy!

 
so I'm just kinda curious what we could actually pull off with the resources we have on hand, and to do that I'm trying to remember the most bullshit stuff eggman ever built that wouldn't require us to use something unique. he can just make copies of the phantom ruby so that's a thing, the final egg blaster could wipe out entire star clusters in a single shot but that's so endgame it's ridiculous, the metal virus isn't worth the effort, the time eater required a remnant of Solaris to make so it's out, the Metalix from Fleetway were apparently pretty OP but I don't really know what their whole deal was.

actually, is there anything stopping us from going into space and putting mines on asteroids for untouchable supply lines, I'm not familiar with literally any of the settings we're crossing over with so I've got no idea if we'd have opposition on that or not?

anyway the point I was getting to, what are some of the most broken OP things any version of Eggman has produced that didn't require a unique artifact/monster that we wont have access to?
 
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