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I figured Tsukune would be our Speedwagon, assuming he's never in a position to drink vampire blood.

Y'know, it'd be funny if Stardust Crusaders happened between school years, that'd make for a hell of a 'what I did over summer' comparison.

"I hunted down a hundred year old vampire and beat him death. What did you guys do?"
 
XenonPrime said:
I figured Tsukune would be our Speedwagon, assuming he's never in a position to drink vampire blood.

Y'know, it'd be funny if Stardust Crusaders happened between school years, that'd make for a hell of a 'what I did over summer' comparison.

"I hunted down a hundred year old vampire and beat him death. What did you guys do?"
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"don't worry moka he was me great-grandfather not yours"
 
Insufficient Dakka said:
Is he cool enough to be our Speedwagon? I'm unfamiliar with Rosario+vampire, so I wouldn't know. What I've seen of him here suggests that he isn't.
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Well, no, but very few people in R+V are cool (or fabulous) enough to be anyone from JoJo. But he fits the mold of Speedwagon more in the sense that he's a friend of the protagonist who doesn't have any supernatural powers and helps him out in other ways.
 
Insufficient Dakka said:
Is he cool enough to be our Speedwagon? I'm unfamiliar with Rosario+vampire, so I wouldn't know. What I've seen of him here suggests that he isn't.
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He fits the role of unpowered sidekick who isn't useful for direct fighting, naturally he comes nowhere near being manly, badass or fabulous enough to be counted as an actual Jojo companion.
He's sort of like a training companion for the eventual Bizarre Adventure.
 
Step 1: Find the arrow.
Step 2: Give Tsukune a stand.
Step 3: Watch it kill him due to him lacking the necessary ferocity to control it.
Step 4: Regret steps 1 & 2.
 
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Insufficient Dakka said:
I don't know about regretting step 1. We could still use it to get a Requiem Stand.
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That brings up a question I had: if piercing a Stand's user grants one power-up (the Stand gets a new power) and piercing the Stand itself grants another (the Stand becomes a Requiem Stand and its preexisting power is upgraded), can you just get both power-ups?
 
Ardion Prosili said:
Except it totally was even more awesome than that in canon because fuck people hyping the up the Ripple when DIO counters it and Stands were basically 'Ghost Ripples' in SC anyways.
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Except by all rights, Jotaro should have been slaughtered, Stand or not. When Dio pegged him with those knives, when he fell off that building back-first, when he stopped his heart with Star Platinum so Dio would think he was dead and passed out in the process, when Dio went to decapitate him while he was unconscious, when Dio extended the time he could move in Time Stop and dropped a steamroller on him, etc.. And every single time, he was saved by a deus ex machina. And when Jotaro finally did kill Dio, it wasn't through some clever plan. It was through him spontaneously developing a new ability and Dio's own abilities suddenly not working. I found it incredibly unsatisfying.
 
Hyp3rB14d3 said:
Except by all rights, Jotaro should have been slaughtered, Stand or not. When Dio pegged him with those knives, when he fell off that building back-first, when he stopped his heart with Star Platinum so Dio would think he was dead and passed out in the process, when Dio went to decapitate him while he was unconscious, when Dio extended the time he could move in Time Stop and dropped a steamroller on him, etc.. And every single time, he was saved by a deus ex machina. And when Jotaro finally did kill Dio, it wasn't through some clever plan. It was through him spontaneously developing a new ability and Dio's own abilities suddenly not working. I found it incredibly unsatisfying.
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blame the author writing himself into a corner.

Don't blame stands,

Joseph only beat cars through sheer fucking luck, so it's not like this sort of thing hasn't happened before.
 
ninjafish said:
blame the author writing himself into a corner.

Don't blame stands,

Joseph only beat cars through sheer fucking luck, so it's not like this sort of thing hasn't happened before.
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That one's forgivable given that it's a direct contradiction to every single one of Joseph's previous victories which he accomplished via complicated plans and out thinking his enemies to the point of being able to predict and manipulate their speech perfectly.
It's an almost artistic juxtaposition of the previously established themes and 'rules' of the story.

It's freaking hilarious how the clever and cunning Joseph is ultimately saved by sheer dumb luck and Kars' ignorance of space.

Jotaro's victory doesn't have the benefit of contrasts nor does it have the foreshadowing of the end (such as with prophecy of the Red Stone of Aja being the key to defeating the Pillar Men) all it has is Jotaro pulling a power out of his ass and ganking Dio.
 
I really liked the canon final showdown of SC. <hides> <unhides>

re:beating DIO with Ripple: Um, even ignoring timestop, you do recall that DIO's got The World, right? In order to get DIO with Ripple, you need a way to physically tranfer it to him. For as long as DIO has his Stand, he can just use The World to hold your SHIIIIIINIIIING FIIIIIIIIINGEEEEEEEEERRRRR(!!!!!!!) at bay and prevent it from reaching his fabulous body.

Now, if you can plan out a way to trap him underwater, then that would make Ripple transference considerably easier. But is he, DIO, really going to let you manuever him in such a way? Maybe if you dress up like Jonathan and put the moves on him...?
Still reading R+V. I'm tellin' ya, right now, it should be an international felony that Moka's the only girl to have even had a snowball's chance in hell.

Also, taking a look at the blackboard panel in Ririko-sensei's introductory chapter (vol3, ch12), HOLY SHIT THAT LOOKS COMPLICATED. I never had anything remotely like that in my high school years! Truly, the Japanese social fixation towards education is a fearsome thing to behold. And while we're on the subject of things that are fearsome to behold, get a load of that teacher-student subtext! First one to post Van Halen gets a lump of coal.

Update coming in a couple of minutes.
 
XenonPrime said:
That one's forgivable given that it's a direct contradiction to every single one of Joseph's previous victories which he accomplished via complicated plans and out thinking his enemies to the point of being able to predict and manipulate their speech perfectly.
It's an almost artistic juxtaposition of the previously established themes and 'rules' of the story.

It's freaking hilarious how the clever and cunning Joseph is ultimately saved by sheer dumb luck and Kars' ignorance of space.

Jotaro's victory doesn't have the benefit of contrasts nor does it have the foreshadowing of the end (such as with prophecy of the Red Stone of Aja being the key to defeating the Pillar Men) all it has is Jotaro pulling a power out of his ass and ganking Dio.
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And yet, it was still glorious.
 
EvaUnit01 said:
I really liked the canon final showdown of SC. <hides> <unhides>

re:beating DIO with Ripple: Um, even ignoring timestop, you do recall that DIO's got The World, right? In order to get DIO with Ripple, you need a way to physically tranfer it to him. For as long as DIO has his Stand, he can just use The World to hold your SHIIIIIINIIIING FIIIIIIIIINGEEEEEEEEERRRRR(!!!!!!!) at bay and prevent it from reaching his fabulous body.

Now, if you can plan out a way to trap him underwater, then that would make Ripple transference considerably easier. But is he, DIO, really going to let you manuever him in such a way? Maybe if you dress up like Jonathan and put the moves on him...?
Still reading R+V. I'm tellin' ya, right now, it should be an international felony that Moka's the only girl to have even had a snowball's chance in hell.

Also, taking a look at the blackboard panel in Ririko-sensei's introductory chapter (vol3, ch12), HOLY SHIT THAT LOOKS COMPLICATED. I never had anything remotely like that in my high school years! Truly, the Japanese social fixation towards education is a fearsome thing to behold. And while we're on the subject of things that are fearsome to behold, get a load of that teacher-student subtext! First one to post Van Halen gets a lump of coal.

Update coming in a couple of minutes.
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Actually if I remember DIO's confrontation right, even with The World Joseph stalled DIO by wrapping Purple Hermit around himself and charging it with Hamon, it's why DIO stabbed Joseph in the throat.
 
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    • "What a pain in the ass," you mutter under your breath.

    Without his noticing, you sneak up behind him. You're not exactly trying to be stealthy, so he must be pretty engrossed into his activities.

    Once you're close enough, you violently kick the barrel out from under the peeping tom and send him flying with a loud yelp some feet away, before unconsciously sliding into a pose much the same as you always do when you're disgusted - right hand in your pocket, left hand slightly pulling down your hat.

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    He starts to quietly demand, "What the hell was that for, jer-" and then his expression of humiliated anger starts giving way to dread. "You're JoJo, that guy that was sitting next to me in class!"

    ...On taking another look at this guy, yeah, you recognize him all right. The pervert who was lusting after the professor.

    At that time, the building's window - the very one that was beeing peeped through just moments ago - slides open, and a girl pokes her head out.

    She looks at you. Looks at the perv. Looks back at you, a stonefaced badass. Looks back at the perv, sweating bullets and bleeding out his pride. Looks back at you, gives you a thumbs-up. Goes back into the building.

    You get the sense that all the girls in there are about to come and beat the shit out of this guy. Which is good, because that was your intent. You'd pummel this guy yourself, but your heart isn't really in it right now.

    As the pervert gets dogpiled by angry schoolgirls wielding brooms, you joylessly jaunt toward the dorm.

    _____________

    It's a creepy-ass place, taking a good look at it. Oh, the buildings seem to be in pretty good repair, but the atmosphere here is the same as everywhere else around here - it feels like you're in a low-budget horror movie.

    As you head to your room and lock the door, what will you do now?

    []Go to sleep (skip ahead to the next morning)

    []Spend a few hours studying...? (pick two)
    -[]Math
    -[]English
    -[]How to beat the shit out of your fellow students and also the faculty Biology
    -[]Social Studies
     
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    • The thing is, Dio isn't someone you beat head on. You have to trap him. Otherwise, you cannot win outside of the universe bending over backwards to let you do so.

    Wanting Jotaro to get the ripple isn't so he can kill Dio with it. It's so that he has experience fighting with something he can't just ORA ORA ORA his way to victory with.
     
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