will408914
(slouching towards bethlehem)
- Location
- California
[X] "The world is better off without you in it!" Even if it's just one dead son of a bitch at a time, you want to make the world a better place.
Rosario and Joestar
- Thread starter EvaUnit01
- Start date
- Location
- A Place Miserably Bereft of Cats
Man, not all slippery slopes are created equal. 'I can choose to eradicate something from the world' is a little more slippery than 'I'm doing this to right a wrong.'
- Location
- Pittsburgh, PA
He's pulling out the "you don't belong in this world!" shtick for a remorseless serial killer who doesn't even have the fig leaf some monsters use of "I only feed on humans". This asshole responded to not getting the girl by eating the girl's family (and the family of the guy she chose) on their wedding night. Also, Jotaro just finished exhuming the chewed bones of an entire elementary school class that this fuck ate because he could.
That is an acceptable threshold for vigilante justice, in my opinion.
I mean, changing the world isn't an inherently good or evil goal. MLK wanted to change the world. So did the Stonewall protesters.
So did Hitler.
Changing the world isn't what matters, it's what you want to change the world into - and how you plan to go about achieving that change.
I really don't think so in this case. Believing in "right" as an external, inflexible construct that applies equally to all people can end in some pretty horrific & shitty actions.
Also, Jotaro's not really a "for great justice" kinda guy. There hasn't been a Joestar like that since Jonathan.
AJjrSpruill
Mildly peeved
- Location
- The Boonies
[X]"You'll pay for what you've done..." His crimes have gone unseen and unpunished for too long! You and Tsurara are the only ones who can mete out justice!
- Location
- A Place Miserably Bereft of Cats
I'm not seeing why this is a bad thing. What are you, some kind of vampire?
- Location
- Pittsburgh, PA
I mean, we're theoretically playing some strain of Jotaro Kujo. Jotaro is so not-Jonathan that it hurts. To be honest, there's no JoJo in the series that you could get to behave like the lineage's originator without severe OoC-ness. Jonathan Joestar was a singular instance, and none of his heirs ever quite lived up to his brand of pure heroism.
None of them should, in a way.
Joseph is flippant and can be a real sonofabitch sometimes (and not in the complimentary sense), but his dickery and occasional frank displays of legitimate heroism are captivating.
I'll never quite understand the reason for Jotaro's massive fanbase in Japan, but I can more or less understand who he is and why changing that makes him not really Jotaro anymore after a certain point. He's a big lug who doesn't much like talking, has some social hangups about accepting/reciprocating affection, and generally tries to affect an air of disinterest with the world around him. He does have a sense of right and wrong, but it's very down to earth and "in the moment". He didn't possibly-murder Steely Dan because his actions offended Jotaro's belief in justice, he did it because Steely Dan was a Class-A, piece-of-shit bastard who deserved as many punches to the face as Star Platinum could deliver. His mental processes feel like they're driven by his personal experience and gut instinct, not an intellectual/ideological belief.
Jonathan beats you up because the good people of the world will suffer if he doesn't, and your crimes cannot go unpunished. Joseph beats you up because you're a nasty piece of work, threatening his life, and/or pose a threat to those he loves. Jotaro beats you up because you finally managed to push him over the line with your bullshit and he's officially done living in a world where your face isn't being rearranged via ORA ORA ORA.
Jotaro just doesn't feel like someone who would be thinking about what he's seen here as "crimes". He'd be focused on what a bastard Terada is and the unholy shit-stomping he's about to bestow on said bastard for being such a bastard. The way he flips from affected apathy to cold fury is too sudden and emotionally driven for me to see him thinking about what he's doing and what he's reacting to in non-emotional terms.
Not in Person
Once Known as The Nobody
- Location
- A place
The former is deeper on the slope than the latter. If there have been any people who wanted to eradicate something from the world because they genuinely believed that this is going to make the world a worse place, I haven't heard of any. Some people just have a very narrow definition of a "world".
- Location
- East of the Sun and West of the Moon
Yeah, but I'm pretty sure these ones are, or close as makes no difference. Either way we get the same immediate results, both motivations could reasonably belong to either heroes or anime villains, and there's no particular flag that one is the bad option. Given that, making one the choice that sucks us down the pit to villainy and the other one safe would be some trap option bull pucky and I don't think Eva's gonna pull that.
Me, I'm picking based on what kind of anime villain we might turn into, and I like Pucci (who wanted to make the world into Heaven) more than Valentine (who believed his actions were aligned with justice).
[X]"The world is better off without you in it!" Even if it's just one dead son of a bitch at a time, you want to make the world a better place.
EvaUnit01
Kept you waiting, huh?
You're right.
Neither option is necessarily better or worse than the other.
Looking at the votes, the winner's pretty clear. Even if all the assorted variants are properly grouped up together, it doesn't change the end result (and in fact, it makes the lead a little bit larger).
Because of this, and because I'm reasonably confident that pretty much everyone who's going to vote already has, I'm going to go ahead and lock it. I'll try to have the next update ready by the end of the week, though of course I promise nothing.
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EvaUnit01
Kept you waiting, huh?
Just taking a moment to say that 1) I haven't forgotten about this, I am working on both the main update with Jotaro (which isn't going as well as I'd like) and on the monthly Moka episode I promised (which was going swimmingly for a while, and then suddenly hit a snag), and 2) in a hypothetical alternate universe where R+J took place in 2019 rather than 1989, Moka's favorite video games would be quirky cult/indie titles like ICO or Undertale.
Meetings and a Vampire
EvaUnit01
Kept you waiting, huh?
"It's almost like something out of a fairy tale."
The trees in the forest are utterly bare of leaves, as if to greet newcomers with open arms while displaying that they have neither secrets, nor malicious intentions. The peaceful sea is a vibrant red, its shade reminding me of a fine wine. It's really just... the only word I can even think of to describe it is gorgeous. And if the sea's that beautiful, then... well, maybe I can't actually see down to the beach from here, but in my imagination at least it seems like it would be a totally romantic place to take a special someone.
"Moka, I want you to make friends at school, and have lots of fun and maybe get a boyfriend...."
But then, a special someone.... What kind of person would I want to go there with?
I... I know it might sound a little pathetic if I actually admit it, but I think...
Stay away from Moka, ---kun! Not only does she have cooties, but that weirdo goes around telling anyone who'll listen to her that she's a vampire!
Whoa, seriously?! How creepy!
I know, right?! I kind of wish she'd just go back to her vampire friends and leave us humans alone...!
Even if I was too naïve back then to understand what I was doing... why couldn't anyone see how much they were hurting me?
Maybe it's just wishful thinking, but....
I really hate to admit it, but sometimes I catch myself thinking that they did see it. That they might have been doing it on purpose.
If I could only look for one thing in a boyfriend, I think I'd want them to be kind. Someone I can be honest with... someone who I can go to and tell them what I'm really thinking, share what I'm really feeling, and they'd still be nice to me.
I want someone to smile at me! I want to be with someone who won't make me feel ashamed just for existing!
....yeah, that's kind of what I figured -- if I actually come out and phrase it plainly like that, it really does make me sound like I'm totally pathetic--
ohmigodohmigod that was a bus
It takes me a few seconds to try and process what just happened, and by the time I do, I'm in the middle of dusting dirt off from my uniform and leaning over to pick up my bike.
But still, that was a school bus that just came racing out of the tunnel! I'm really lucky that I pulled a meter or so off of the road when I stopped -- if that thing had run me over, I could've been seriously hurt!
.....aaaaaand it would've been my fault for spacing out in a place where vehicles are moving. Right, I need to try and pay more attention to my surroundings. So that in the future, I don't almost get run over by school buses.
...school buses that are carrying students. To school. ...which means that classes are going to start soon, and oh God oh God oh God I'm just sitting here like some kind of weirdo, I have to move or I'm going to be laaaaate!!!
It's at times like this, I catch myself thinking in the back of my mind, that being a super-powerful Vampire does have its advantages. It takes me a second to calm down enough that I can apply enough pressure to the bike pedals to actually get traction and start moving instead of just spinning the tires in place, but once I get started? I can pedal as hard and fast as I want, and it's no trouble at all to outspeed cars on the highway if I need to!
Just by dividing distance traveled by the time spent doing it, I know I've broken 80 kilometers per hour before! With that kind of power in my body, I can make it to school in no time!
Hills, valleys, I fly over them all in a blur of speed!
In less than a minute, I peak over a grade and come in view of the bus from before, which has now stopped to let off its passengers!
And as I realize that there's no possible way I can slow down enough to turn or otherwise keep from hitting someone, I catch myself thinking in the back of my mind: it's at times like this...
I scream, partly to try and get the boys' attention and get them to jump out of the way, and partly because I'm holding the brakes and freaking out because I'm not slowing down fast enough, and there's not one thing I can do about it. "LOOK OUT!"
...that being a super-powerful Vampire really isn't that great after all...
The experience is.... kind of like what I've heard car crashes can be like. I just know this is going to end badly for someone, I can't do anything to stop it, and worst of all, it feels like it's happening in slow motion.
And just as I start to think the situation couldn't get any worse, I'm suddenly hit with a massive wave of dizziness, and my vision gets blurry. My anemia?! But... but I made sure to drink a whole pack before I left!
There's a really strong impact as my bike hits something, and the world spins around and around and around and around and around as I come flying loose from it, until eventually I hit something and tumble with it to the ground.
The next thing I know, I'm lying crumpled up on the ground and my entire body's aching with pain.
God, I hope I didn't hurt anyone...
But what if she really IS a vampire?! Are we even safe?! Shouldn't that kind of freak be locked up somewhere?!
Please, I think to myself, don't let me have hurt anyone...
I force myself to try and sit up, but it still takes a while before I can see anything around me clearly. "Ugh, I got dizzy because of my anemia...."
Eventually, I manage to clear my vision enough to get an idea of what's going on around me, and I see a boy about my age lying on the ground nearb-- wait, didn't I hit something after I flew from my bike?! Did I hurt this poor guy?! "Ohmigod, are you okay?! Did I injure you?!"
"N-no!" he says, a little flushed. He sounds honest, though, so I decide to leave it at that instead of risking upsetting him.
Wasn't there a second student, though? Looking around for him, I...
I....
Ooohhhhh God, he's huge. Maybe it's because I'm still kneeling on the ground, but he looks like he's twelve feet tall, and built like a truck! He's the biggest living creature I've ever seen with my own eyes!
And as I see his face, my heart jumps up into my throat! As clear as a spring sky, his livid expression tells me that he's going to beat me until I'm a bloody stain on the ground!
The words fly out of my mouth before I can even fully realize I'm speaking. "I'm sorry! I'm so, so, so sorry!"
For several terrifying seconds, he just keeps scowling at me, before eventually turning away, his only words a bitter utterance of "Good grief..."
With the huge student's gaze no longer focused on me like that, I can actually manage to calm down a bit.
Something smells.... good.
The.... giant student seems like he's okay (attitude notwithstanding), so I need to focus on the boy I ran into, and really make sure I didn't hurt him.
"Still... are you sure you're--"
As I focus my attention on him, I suddenly register a certain scent, and my mind goes blank.
I have a vague awareness, as I slowly crawl towards him, that I'm beginning to salivate.
In the back of my mind, I know that I mustn't do this, that I have to stop. But... but even as I keep telling myself how terrible of an idea this is, before I realize it I'm already on top of the boy.
Please don't hate me...
"I'm sorry," I say as I reach down for his cheek. The very instant his still-warm blood hits my tongue, I can't stop the pleasant chills running up and down my spine at the sheer heavenly taste of it! The nerves in my body all light up at once, and my entire body shudders in joy, just from these few drops.
"I just... I can't stop myself," I try to explain as I lower myself to his neck. Even as I flick my tongue across my fangs in anticipation, I do what little I can to try and make it less scary, I try to help him understand. "It's all because I'm a vampire."
The trees in the forest are utterly bare of leaves, as if to greet newcomers with open arms while displaying that they have neither secrets, nor malicious intentions. The peaceful sea is a vibrant red, its shade reminding me of a fine wine. It's really just... the only word I can even think of to describe it is gorgeous. And if the sea's that beautiful, then... well, maybe I can't actually see down to the beach from here, but in my imagination at least it seems like it would be a totally romantic place to take a special someone.
"Moka, I want you to make friends at school, and have lots of fun and maybe get a boyfriend...."
But then, a special someone.... What kind of person would I want to go there with?
I... I know it might sound a little pathetic if I actually admit it, but I think...
Stay away from Moka, ---kun! Not only does she have cooties, but that weirdo goes around telling anyone who'll listen to her that she's a vampire!
Whoa, seriously?! How creepy!
I know, right?! I kind of wish she'd just go back to her vampire friends and leave us humans alone...!
Even if I was too naïve back then to understand what I was doing... why couldn't anyone see how much they were hurting me?
Maybe it's just wishful thinking, but....
I really hate to admit it, but sometimes I catch myself thinking that they did see it. That they might have been doing it on purpose.
If I could only look for one thing in a boyfriend, I think I'd want them to be kind. Someone I can be honest with... someone who I can go to and tell them what I'm really thinking, share what I'm really feeling, and they'd still be nice to me.
I want someone to smile at me! I want to be with someone who won't make me feel ashamed just for existing!
....yeah, that's kind of what I figured -- if I actually come out and phrase it plainly like that, it really does make me sound like I'm totally pathetic--
ohmigodohmigod that was a bus
It takes me a few seconds to try and process what just happened, and by the time I do, I'm in the middle of dusting dirt off from my uniform and leaning over to pick up my bike.
But still, that was a school bus that just came racing out of the tunnel! I'm really lucky that I pulled a meter or so off of the road when I stopped -- if that thing had run me over, I could've been seriously hurt!
.....aaaaaand it would've been my fault for spacing out in a place where vehicles are moving. Right, I need to try and pay more attention to my surroundings. So that in the future, I don't almost get run over by school buses.
...school buses that are carrying students. To school. ...which means that classes are going to start soon, and oh God oh God oh God I'm just sitting here like some kind of weirdo, I have to move or I'm going to be laaaaate!!!
It's at times like this, I catch myself thinking in the back of my mind, that being a super-powerful Vampire does have its advantages. It takes me a second to calm down enough that I can apply enough pressure to the bike pedals to actually get traction and start moving instead of just spinning the tires in place, but once I get started? I can pedal as hard and fast as I want, and it's no trouble at all to outspeed cars on the highway if I need to!
Just by dividing distance traveled by the time spent doing it, I know I've broken 80 kilometers per hour before! With that kind of power in my body, I can make it to school in no time!
Hills, valleys, I fly over them all in a blur of speed!
In less than a minute, I peak over a grade and come in view of the bus from before, which has now stopped to let off its passengers!
And as I realize that there's no possible way I can slow down enough to turn or otherwise keep from hitting someone, I catch myself thinking in the back of my mind: it's at times like this...
I scream, partly to try and get the boys' attention and get them to jump out of the way, and partly because I'm holding the brakes and freaking out because I'm not slowing down fast enough, and there's not one thing I can do about it. "LOOK OUT!"
...that being a super-powerful Vampire really isn't that great after all...
The experience is.... kind of like what I've heard car crashes can be like. I just know this is going to end badly for someone, I can't do anything to stop it, and worst of all, it feels like it's happening in slow motion.
And just as I start to think the situation couldn't get any worse, I'm suddenly hit with a massive wave of dizziness, and my vision gets blurry. My anemia?! But... but I made sure to drink a whole pack before I left!
There's a really strong impact as my bike hits something, and the world spins around and around and around and around and around as I come flying loose from it, until eventually I hit something and tumble with it to the ground.
The next thing I know, I'm lying crumpled up on the ground and my entire body's aching with pain.
God, I hope I didn't hurt anyone...
But what if she really IS a vampire?! Are we even safe?! Shouldn't that kind of freak be locked up somewhere?!
Please, I think to myself, don't let me have hurt anyone...
I force myself to try and sit up, but it still takes a while before I can see anything around me clearly. "Ugh, I got dizzy because of my anemia...."
Eventually, I manage to clear my vision enough to get an idea of what's going on around me, and I see a boy about my age lying on the ground nearb-- wait, didn't I hit something after I flew from my bike?! Did I hurt this poor guy?! "Ohmigod, are you okay?! Did I injure you?!"
"N-no!" he says, a little flushed. He sounds honest, though, so I decide to leave it at that instead of risking upsetting him.
Wasn't there a second student, though? Looking around for him, I...
I....
Ooohhhhh God, he's huge. Maybe it's because I'm still kneeling on the ground, but he looks like he's twelve feet tall, and built like a truck! He's the biggest living creature I've ever seen with my own eyes!
And as I see his face, my heart jumps up into my throat! As clear as a spring sky, his livid expression tells me that he's going to beat me until I'm a bloody stain on the ground!
The words fly out of my mouth before I can even fully realize I'm speaking. "I'm sorry! I'm so, so, so sorry!"
For several terrifying seconds, he just keeps scowling at me, before eventually turning away, his only words a bitter utterance of "Good grief..."
With the huge student's gaze no longer focused on me like that, I can actually manage to calm down a bit.
Something smells.... good.
The.... giant student seems like he's okay (attitude notwithstanding), so I need to focus on the boy I ran into, and really make sure I didn't hurt him.
"Still... are you sure you're--"
As I focus my attention on him, I suddenly register a certain scent, and my mind goes blank.
I have a vague awareness, as I slowly crawl towards him, that I'm beginning to salivate.
In the back of my mind, I know that I mustn't do this, that I have to stop. But... but even as I keep telling myself how terrible of an idea this is, before I realize it I'm already on top of the boy.
Please don't hate me...
"I'm sorry," I say as I reach down for his cheek. The very instant his still-warm blood hits my tongue, I can't stop the pleasant chills running up and down my spine at the sheer heavenly taste of it! The nerves in my body all light up at once, and my entire body shudders in joy, just from these few drops.
"I just... I can't stop myself," I try to explain as I lower myself to his neck. Even as I flick my tongue across my fangs in anticipation, I do what little I can to try and make it less scary, I try to help him understand. "It's all because I'm a vampire."
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RazielOfSecrets
Verified Homo Sapiens
- Location
- Lansdale, Pennsylvania, USA
It was really cute, and you got Moka's insecurities down pat.
- Location
- A Place Miserably Bereft of Cats
Man, I just realized that Yu Yu Hakusho is technically occuring around this point in time in its own setting. That'd be a hell of a crossover, that.
And yeah that was super great. Good work as always!
Delerp Turtle
I CAST FIST!
- Location
- Middle, Capital of Nowhere
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Wait, daaaamn. Tsukune tanked Moka and her bike crashing into him at a 80km an hour? That's like, nearly 50 mph.
Okay, so she's apparently 47 kg, that's like ~100 lbs. I'm too sleepy to do the proper math, but damn. And that isn't even including the weight of the bike itself... shit man, how is Tsukune still alive?
Okay, so she's apparently 47 kg, that's like ~100 lbs. I'm too sleepy to do the proper math, but damn. And that isn't even including the weight of the bike itself... shit man, how is Tsukune still alive?
- Location
- East of the Sun and West of the Moon
As a harem protag, he is ungodly resistant to blunt force damage.
- Location
- my house
Tsukune is the one crashed into, the tall one who glared was Jojo. Two different people
EvaUnit01
Kept you waiting, huh?
The bike hit Jotaro, at which point Moka went flying and then crashed into Tsukune.
What, nobody's going to check for invisitext this time?
Delerp Turtle
I CAST FIST!
- Location
- Middle, Capital of Nowhere
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I'd love to, but I'm on mobile and it sucks to select things.
- Location
- Maryland
- Location
- Pittsburgh, PA
God, I miss that show. It somehow managed to pull off having main characters who, by and large, didn't give much of a shit about taking others' lives while still making them sympathetic and (more or less) decent.
- Location
- Hyperborea
He didn't, at least not in this quest.
The start of Jotaro gradually growing to become a heroic punk instead of just a punk.