Ridiculously Average Guy
I'm you, but stronger
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[X]a fast-food place. Gotta have lunch, after all.
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Rosario and Joestar
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Nottheunmaker
Altman be praised
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- USG Ishimura
[X]a fast-food place. Gotta have lunch, after all.
ArchRegis
Schnee Property
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- USA
Something to keep in mind though, is that the more time we spend doing other shit, the less time we get to influence the plot. If we arrive at Witch's Knoll later, then stuff without us being there will occur. So if there's anything in particular you want to derail canon from, it'd be best to reconsider.
I am totally fine if we end up going though.
Legend of Ruina
Growing eyes on the inside
[Q] A completely unrelated abandoned construction site
Protodermis
Hope is an ugly feeling
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- Dirac Sea
[X]Witch Knoll
We dont want to mess with this plot because it actually turned out pretty optimal thanks to Tsukune.
This isn't a matter of "we can make it better" this is a case of bringing a flamethrower to bear against two people who are really scared and desperate getting ready to lash out.
Add on getting defensive to that when confronted with Joseph Joestar himself?
When the strengths of the Joestars are decidedly not in social-fu?
You're just asking for everything to go to hell.
HymnOfRagnarok
Let's Rock
...Well, I know what I'm voting for now.
[X]Witch Knoll
Because now I'm remembering Big Human on Campus' version of the Witch's Knoll, and that shit was hilarious.
When did they ever get the chance to use social fu?
Whoever they were up against was either trying to murder them in cold blood or a mind controlled puppet of DIO.
Quantumboost
Now with 50% more dots in Dimensional Science
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- Ensemble Space
[X]a fast-food place. Gotta have lunch, after all.
A well-fed JoJo is a happy JoJo.
A well-fed JoJo is a happy JoJo.
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- East of the Sun and West of the Moon
Mind control is an excuse, them trying to murder you isn't. Look at Jonathan. Did he not diplomance Speedwagon into becoming one of the greatest allies of the Jojo line despite Speedwagon trying to shank him with his hat? Making friends and allies of people who've tried to kill you is a time-honored shonen tradition carried on by both Jojos and Tsukune.
Anyway, Joseph did all right social-fuing the Pillar Men into letting him live a little longer so he'd be a better fight, but even he acknowledged that he could have done better. The only other attempt I can recall offhand between him and his grandson was their utter failure to talk Priestess out of eating them.
...Eh, whatever.
All I can say is that you shouldn't complain when Eva doesn't write things the way you're hoping he will.
...Social Fu is referred to as such because its effective regardless of the situation.
Neither of those scenarios stop people from trying it, nor do they truly limit it's effectiveness. That the Joestars resolved their various conflicts with beating the hell out of their opponents is because that's what they prefer and are capable of.
They could have attempted negotiation. They just don't. Especially with Jotaro of all people. The reason Tsukune got as far as he did in canon was because he was a living example of how not all humans were existential threats to Rose and her Master.
Jotaro would just beat them all and have done with it. And Joseph is "The Jojo". Social Fu is off the table the moment they try to take control of the situation, simply because they don't see the need for it. They'll solve the problem the same way they always do.
With their fists.
To be fair Jonathan did that through just being that chivalrous and melting Speedwagon's heart with overwhelming charisma.
Not through any overly clever force of argument or whatever. So not really Social-fu. Although the Pillar Man thing is a case of attempted social fu that didn't work as well as it was supposed to, but still bore some fruit
HymnOfRagnarok
Let's Rock
IIRC he was also a fan of BHoC. But for me, I was completely ambivalent about the choice up until now. So if this doesn't happen, no skin off my nose. If it does happen, yay!
Yeah he is...But he's also very loyal to the characterization he sets up for his own characters.
So there might be references, but I honestly doubt it'll play out that way.
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- East of the Sun and West of the Moon
Jonathan talked an enemy into an ally, and that's the social skill we need for Witch's Knoll. And since possibly Tsukune's only strength at this point is a Jonathan-like talent at agape,
[X]a fast-food place. Gotta have lunch, after all.
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Wait, JoJo's don't know Social-Fu?
Because Joestar's don't have their success because of their fists.
They have their success rates because of their guile and ability to read people, which Joseph embodies.
He can do the exact same thing Tsukune does.
Remember Wammu?
Also, Jotaro has yet to outsmart a single opponent.
Which is weird because this is a JoJo quest. The fights are CEREBRAL over there.
But I'm rambling.
[X] Witch's Knoll.
Because Joestar's don't have their success because of their fists.
They have their success rates because of their guile and ability to read people, which Joseph embodies.
He can do the exact same thing Tsukune does.
Remember Wammu?
Also, Jotaro has yet to outsmart a single opponent.
Which is weird because this is a JoJo quest. The fights are CEREBRAL over there.
But I'm rambling.
[X] Witch's Knoll.
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Guile doesn't automatically translate into social skill. And Joseph is never going to get the chance once the witches realize who Joseph is. They're going to go into full blown panic mode and try to defend themselves from the fact that Joseph is totally going to wreck their faces.
Also saying that Joseph social-fued Wham is like saying he social-fued Stroheim.
As in, a total misunderstanding of what social fu even is in the first place. Bonds forged through battle are not the same thing as using interpersonal skills and words to beat someone in a fight. That...I don't even know how to say it any more clearly than that.
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- East of the Sun and West of the Moon
It is perhaps a good idea to define the slang terms you're using before gaping in bafflement at someone having a different definition of them, yes?