Renascence: A Homura Quest

Honorifics or Western-style Titles? I've used both before, which is bothersomely inconsistent

  • Japanese Honorifics (-san, -sama, -dono, -chan, -kun, -senpai, etcetera)

    Votes: 12 33.3%
  • Western Titles (Mister, Miss, job titles, Lord, Lady, etcetera)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Use whichever works better for a given sentence.

    Votes: 24 66.7%

  • Total voters
    36
  • Poll closed .
[X] Warn her off of spreading this stuff around. You'll tell her what she's missing, but even just hinting at this information literally drives insane or outright kills people. She is extremely lucky you are already aware of it.
-[X] Tell her the basics. (Kyubey, witchbomb, lichbomb)
 
I don't see why this is needed. At all.
It gives homura space while not lying to her at all. Gives an actual reasoning for why she would conceal that and inspires sympathy upon Nanoha. It stresses the importance of being careful in the current situation and allows Homura to tell her later when she is in a better place to do so without losing trust in that situation.

Because talking about the loops can be good for Homura in the right situation. can you imagine the amount of stress and grief she has concerning her secrets? not to mention that with the magic available to Nanoha it could be useful to be able to speak freely.

Like. if she remains as an anomalous element in subsequent loops then if she is aware we could potentially find a way to earn her trust much quicker through certain methods. and it is imperative to your mission to score the depths of the loops and know the ins and outs of the anomalous elements.

Its playing it safe while still being honest. this approach would most likely not earn distrust from the white devil by itself.
Adhoc vote count started by Crow on Apr 25, 2018 at 5:17 PM, finished with 9029 posts and 15 votes.

  • [X] Warn her off of spreading this stuff around. You'll tell her what she's missing, but even just hinting at this information literally drives insane or outright kills people. She is extremely lucky you are already aware of it.
    -[X] Tell her the basics. (Kyubey, witchbomb, lichbomb)
    [X] Start off by reiterating your previous warning about spreading this around. You'll tell her what she's missing but she must be aware that even hinting at this information can literally drive people insane or kill them. most of the time both. She is extremely lucky you are already aware of it.
    -[X] Start with the basics, what little you know of Kyubei, the nature of the soul gems and magical girls-and in turn of witches and grief seeds. of the pseudo-lichdom you are consigned to. Of the mechanisms of the soul gems and how mental stability is paramount for a magical girl and thus why you insist on her discretion. Go into as much detail as you can about it. Rising Heart provides an unique opportunity to study more in depth such subjects.
    -[X] Make a pause by telling her there's one thing you're holding back but you do not feel mentally prepared to speak of it. Not at this moment, even though you admire her it does not change the fact you only met recently and it is a very sensitive topic to you. Point her attention to what you just said about the soul gem's corruption. She should understand. The Loops, your mission and your full story is not something you are even sure how to even begin to explain or if you are in such a state as to be able to even try to explain.
    -[X] Change tracks by making the suggestion of hunting one of the Witches with the two of you as she needs to get a clear assessment of their threat level and so she can confirm with her own eyes your words. Their nature is such that your explanations might be meager in comparison. You have to get her to take them seriously. Even the most experienced and powerful of Magi have fallen by a moment of incaution. You do not desire to see your hero fall because of your negligence.
    [X] Tell her everything.
    [x] *Pull out and show her your soul gem
    -[x] "A soul gem gets formed when one makes a 'contract' with kyubey, which has a light come out of the person's body that then becomes the Soul gem which the name itself is the literal description of the object that it is, the soul given physical form".
    -[x] Answer her questions as the come up save for questions on you own personal info.

    -[x] Give her all the general information you have on Witches/Magical girls/Grief seeds/Soul gems, with a warning that all the information you are giving can be consider an extreme info hazard to Magical girls.
 
[X] Warn her off of spreading this stuff around. You'll tell her what she's missing, but even just hinting at this information literally drives insane or outright kills people. She is extremely lucky you are already aware of it.
-[X] Tell her the basics. (Kyubey, witchbomb, lichbomb)
 
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not sure I voted yet...

[X] Warn her off of spreading this stuff around. You'll tell her what she's missing, but even just hinting at this information literally drives insane or outright kills people. She is extremely lucky you are already aware of it.
-[X] Tell her the basics. (Kyubey, witchbomb, lichbomb)
 
Don't worry Koko...we'll get out of here. We'll take everyone, and it'll all be okay..."

'...huh? Is she...talking to me? Can't be...just met today...so...flashbacks, huh? Weird coincidence on the name there, but...look like Ribbons has more baggage than I thought. Now...how do I...?'

"I know...I know you want to stay, but we can't win. If we go out there, you...not again. Let's go. Somewhere it'll never find us...heh...heheh..."

So I was going back through the quest - really at this rate Kyouko will figure out the looping. The girl is dependable in a way that means that if Homura is out of it she's not. And she's already gotten enough clues that she doesn't need much more.

Especially as Homura peppers her speech with agains.


You grimace, cutting her off, "How do I know? Incubators don't forget...not normally, at least. I was told, a long time ago...well, depending on your perspective.

Kyouko knows that Homura is a time magus, and things like deepening new your perspective informs that Homura has reason to consider that someone else's perception of time is different from hers.

You glance back at your sister ("Is that truly what she is to you...?"), ignoring her scowl as you hug her without warning, "Actually, Kyouko...I think we should sleep over. It'll be fun, just like old times! We can watch some anime...I can show you Eva, so you'll be ready if another Angel pops up! Then we can-!"

Again Homura forgets when's she's at. And more references to other times.

Mami smiles back at you, a bit more genuinely than before, and you feel a hint of that old warmth echoed in your present self as you regard your old mentor, "Really, thank you. I'm sure it's delicious. You've always made wonderful cakes."

Mami blinks in confusion, "...ah, I have?"

Kyouko gives you a strange look, and you scramble to cover for your slip, keeping your face clear, "Your reputation proceeds you, Tomoe-san. Kazusa praised your confections at length, last time I spoke to her."

This is the point where I'm waiting for Kyouko to realize that Homura is speaking from experience when it comes to team structure - specifically the newbie with a mentor. Her skill set is not something that one learns easily. It's the type that needs support until the skills are in place.
 
Man, holy wall of text Batman, I mean Crow might be a bit too much there ya know?

Alright we have to tell her the basics, and I think the important point to focus on is how it is QB who is running the system. Wishes ALTER reality, and Magical Girls and witches have Unique Powers. And then we see where we go from there. Let's try and take it maybe 1 update a time to properly react to how Nanoha reacts.

All of this is import actionable information without giving too much away and doesn't require a short novel's worth of words :V


Just don't forget one of Homura's bigger issues is being left behind, not being needed especially after all she's done. (Homura you can control time somewhat. You're like, 10/10 key powerful ally just from that let alone 100/100 gun skill, you're never NOT going to be needed. Like jeez, just think of all the crazy stuff you can do with time stop.)
 
Honestly? I'm thinking the gun skill might be the more bullshit thing.

Thinking about it - no one has seen Homura fight with a gun yet. Heck Madoka and Sayaka might not connect the video game trouncing they get when it's a shooting game until after they see that.

The reactions the first time anyone sees Homura pull off some Perfect skill level shots is going to be good.
 
I have a good image for what I hope is merely Homura's 'casual' skill with a gun.

For size, I reference the Trick Shots page of the old Last days of foxhound comic. I.E is Homura at least as good as Ocelot?
 
why not just let nano FRIENDSHIP them once she knows the truth? after all she'll fix everything so just tell her the truth and watch her do her thing.
 
So after speaking with the gm I decided to remove the latest part of my vote since its not like the interaction is ending right here and there's a better moment to phrase it after this once things calm down a little.

Like "I require to hunt soon. Can I count on your assistance?" would be easier on her pride. And it would help us since we're always going to need Grief Seeds. And bringing her along to get some experience should get her guard up enough.

Shortened the initial part with telling her everything except for the loops-which would include Walpurgisnacht. its a huge threat and a goal to keep in mind. even though we have time if she's aware of the danger involved she'll engage the necessary preparations.

Maybe we'll even be able to find some more weaknesses or devise a strategy against the laughing witch.

[X] Start off by reiterating your previous warning about spreading this around. You'll tell her what she's missing but she must be aware that even hinting at this information can literally drive people insane or kill them. most of the time both. She is extremely lucky you are already aware of it.
-[X] Tell her everything except for your personal secrets(time-travel related stuff), Make emphasis on the mechanisms of the soul gems and how mental stability is paramount for a magical girl and thus why you insist on her discretion.
-[X] Make a pause by telling her there's one thing you're holding back but you do not feel mentally prepared to speak of it. Not at this moment, even though you admire her it does not change the fact you only met recently and it is a very sensitive topic to you. Point her attention to what you just said about the soul gem's corruption. She should understand. The Loops, your mission and your full story is not something you are even sure how to even begin to explain or if you are in such a state as to be able to even try to explain.

Thoughts?
Adhoc vote count started by Crow on Apr 26, 2018 at 12:45 PM, finished with 9048 posts and 17 votes.

  • [X] Warn her off of spreading this stuff around. You'll tell her what she's missing, but even just hinting at this information literally drives insane or outright kills people. She is extremely lucky you are already aware of it.
    -[X] Tell her the basics. (Kyubey, witchbomb, lichbomb)
    [X] Start off by reiterating your previous warning about spreading this around. You'll tell her what she's missing but she must be aware that even hinting at this information can literally drive people insane or kill them. most of the time both. She is extremely lucky you are already aware of it.
    -[X] Tell her everything except for your personal secrets(time-travel related stuff), Make emphasis on the mechanisms of the soul gems and how mental stability is paramount for a magical girl and thus why you insist on her discretion.
    -[X] Make a pause by telling her there's one thing you're holding back but you do not feel mentally prepared to speak of it. Not at this moment, even though you admire her it does not change the fact you only met recently and it is a very sensitive topic to you. Point her attention to what you just said about the soul gem's corruption. She should understand. The Loops, your mission and your full story is not something you are even sure how to even begin to explain or if you are in such a state as to be able to even try to explain.
    [X] Tell her everything.
    [x] *Pull out and show her your soul gem
    -[x] "A soul gem gets formed when one makes a 'contract' with kyubey, which has a light come out of the person's body that then becomes the Soul gem which the name itself is the literal description of the object that it is, the soul given physical form".
    -[x] Answer her questions as the come up save for questions on you own personal info.

    -[x] Give her all the general information you have on Witches/Magical girls/Grief seeds/Soul gems, with a warning that all the information you are giving can be consider an extreme info hazard to Magical girls.
    [X] Start off by reiterating your previous warning about spreading this around. You'll tell her what she's missing but she must be aware that even hinting at this information can literally drive people insane or kill them. most of the time both. She is extremely lucky you are already aware of it.
    -[X] Start with the basics, what little you know of Kyubei, the nature of the soul gems and magical girls-and in turn of witches and grief seeds. of the pseudo-lichdom you are consigned to. Of the mechanisms of the soul gems and how mental stability is paramount for a magical girl and thus why you insist on her discretion. Go into as much detail as you can about it. Rising Heart provides an unique opportunity to study more in depth such subjects.
    -[X] Make a pause by telling her there's one thing you're holding back but you do not feel mentally prepared to speak of it. Not at this moment, even though you admire her it does not change the fact you only met recently and it is a very sensitive topic to you. Point her attention to what you just said about the soul gem's corruption. She should understand. The Loops, your mission and your full story is not something you are even sure how to even begin to explain or if you are in such a state as to be able to even try to explain.
    -[X] Change tracks by making the suggestion of hunting one of the Witches with the two of you as she needs to get a clear assessment of their threat level and so she can confirm with her own eyes your words. Their nature is such that your explanations might be meager in comparison. You have to get her to take them seriously. Even the most experienced and powerful of Magi have fallen by a moment of incaution. You do not desire to see your hero fall because of your negligence.
 
It's mainly how she does things.
Nice to see the "i don't like the truth so i'm saying you are trolling" meme is your go to insult.

Sad.
meme? Just because your go to is memes doesn't mean I am doing so. Your stating that nanoha can fix anything and when someone disagreed with you your response was 'But she can fix everything' without any backup for your argument. And now you state again 'she can because she does' is not you providing any back up arguments and is once again just restating your stance on it, And further more your not even further arguing your case.
Instead your moving onto insults and 'pitting' your opposition. unless you add something worthwhile I see no further need to respond to you at all.
(I will even note even say you weren't trolling, cause I can assure you I wasn't meme-ing)
Nanoha cannot fix this situation on her own, as shown by when in the earlier fight with a witch had us having to save her, You know in the update's when we first saw/interacted with her, as such her doing her own thing will end in her own death without us intervening.
 
[X] Start off by reiterating your previous warning about spreading this around. You'll tell her what she's missing but she must be aware that even hinting at this information can literally drive people insane or kill them. most of the time both. She is extremely lucky you are already aware of it.
-[X] Tell her everything except for your personal secrets(time-travel related stuff), Make emphasis on the mechanisms of the soul gems and how mental stability is paramount for a magical girl and thus why you insist on her discretion.
-[X] Make a pause by telling her there's one thing you're holding back but you do not feel mentally prepared to speak of it. Not at this moment, even though you admire her it does not change the fact you only met recently and it is a very sensitive topic to you. Point her attention to what you just said about the soul gem's corruption. She should understand. The Loops, your mission and your full story is not something you are even sure how to even begin to explain or if you are in such a state as to be able to even try to explain.
 
[x] Crow

Edit now that I'm at a computer and can add more thoughts: This is pretty much exactly in line with my preferred "keep everyone on the same page intel-wise, and when keeping personal secrets, disclaim that they are personal, rightly entitled to stay personal as long as they need, and not actually Evil Plotting(tm)" policy, so, I think this works at the moment. Solid vote. Ah, clarify, because I've been having a bit of a time trying to make sure I'm reading things properly- so we are going to include Walnutmart in our tell-all? Sorry, just wanting to make sure, it's been kind of a week for misreading things over here.
 
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