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Project Prometheus (Original Setting Superhero Quest)

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Kermie said:
How did we not do the tricky and confusing move on the easily tricked and confused enemies?!
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Too hyped up on shonen and heroism in protecting the soldiers i think. We really do need someone else as a frontliner so we can have HM play his real strenghts.

ScorpioSting said:
And SB herself wouldn't have just gone "Get them both!"?
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Should still give opening and the fight in the house could distract her. Also them focusing on HM would let other backstab.

Bitterman said:
She's not in the yard. And, even if she did, they wouldn't be trying to kill Yara, would they?
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Huh so it looks she really does need ot touch them alive before being able to clone them. THat makes sense as a limitation. probably same reason she cant just take a blood sample to touch and get a clone of someone.

Kermie said:
How did we not do the tricky and confusing move on the easily tricked and confused enemies?!
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Huh You know would handyman Impersonating SB actually work considering how stupid the clones are?
 
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Im pretty sure we
A. Well some of us did suggest him turning into SB, but thought he needed to be in the house to work. Although I dont think Rhys knew how SB looked like?
B. It would have left LL alone with Uaria sorta alone? So eh *shrugs*
 
I should probably leave the thread for a few weeks until this all settles down, the suspense and tension are not going to do me any favors.
 
Bitterman said:
I do love giving my dramatic shonen-esque mid-fight upgrades!
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I just hope we get a break without having a turn where most of our team is in traction because we got jumped by some of the setting's Big Names when we tried to Do A Thing.

God, I just want them to walk away with an actual loss that they can't just handwave off with some meaningless bullshit, like the whole "Seraph is suspended, but not suspended enough that we won't call on them literally days later to jump a meeting that we shouldn't have even known about" Or "Faust is suspended" (But not really), or SM is suspended (We can't tell him what to do anyway).

Sadly, if we actually hurt them, I think they'll just Escalate Further, they apparently have vastly deeper pockets than we do by all indications.
 
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ArgentThyme said:
I mean, he has HIT 8, super strength, and can regen. By all accounts he's actually a high tier fighter, it's just that he's had to fight things like a Named Behemoth and Scarlet Maturity that's given him bad showings.
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The real problem is level scaling; since there is a Mona and there need to be threats to her, he's relatively just A Guy (and LL is in a full body cast clutching a taser in her mouth). Or to put it another way, the John Wick candidate is at +4 HT relative to normal people and this is the same difference between Black Swan and Handyman.
 
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Alectai said:
I just hope we get a break without having a turn where most of our team is in traction because we got jumped by some of the setting's Big Names when we tried to Do A Thing.

God, I just want them to walk away with an actual loss that they can't just handwave off with some meaningless bullshit, like the whole "Seraph is suspended, but not suspended enough that we won't call on them literally days later to jump a meeting that we shouldn't have even known about" Or "Faust is suspended" (But not really), or SM is suspended (We can't tell him what to do anyway).

Sadly, if we actually hurt them, I think they'll just Escalate Further, they apparently have vastly deeper pockets than we do by all indications.
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Oh yeah. I remember the reaction to the OOC stuff in Faustian. Don't worry, stuff is gonna happen that isn't more problems for you.
 
Alectai said:
God, I just want them to walk away with an actual loss that they can't just handwave off with some meaningless bullshit, like the whole "Seraph is suspended, but not suspended enough that we won't call on them literally days later to jump a meeting that we shouldn't have even known about" Or "Faust is suspended" (But not really), or SM is suspended (We can't tell him what to do anyway)
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Well Seraph died this time, so Crusade is gonna have a bad time. and because it's their telepath it opens them up to infiltration
 
At the very least, Silvio can make the obvious inference (Seraph's head was crushed and her body was by the clone Man O' War, who he can clearly see because he's in the room and should know that he's dead) and not blame us for her death, just Socialite Butterfly.
 
Kermie said:
How did we not do the tricky and confusing move on the easily tricked and confused enemies?!
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It was proposed, but there was no reasonable way for Handyman to know what SB looked/sounds like and the time needed to make it work would have left Lady Leizi and Black Swan against a pretty significant line up, especially when Crusade wasn't on side as Hawk boy was present.
 
Alectai said:
I just hope we get a break without having a turn where most of our team is in traction because we got jumped by some of the setting's Big Names when we tried to Do A Thing.

God, I just want them to walk away with an actual loss that they can't just handwave off with some meaningless bullshit, like the whole "Seraph is suspended, but not suspended enough that we won't call on them literally days later to jump a meeting that we shouldn't have even known about" Or "Faust is suspended" (But not really), or SM is suspended (We can't tell him what to do anyway).

Sadly, if we actually hurt them, I think they'll just Escalate Further, they apparently have vastly deeper pockets than we do by all indications.
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Honestly next turn is us going on the offensive. And shouldnt be triggering any Philosopher plot.

Mind MG follow up and Reality has their pwn danger. But spiderweb and New Members let us handle it.

Though I wonder if we need to wait in completing reality check before giving Yara her powers since sode effect might make securing the stocks impossible.
 
ScorpioSting said:
At the very least, Silvio can make the obvious inference (Seraph's head was crushed and her body was by the clone Man O' War, who he can clearly see because he's in the room and should know that he's dead) and not blame us for her death, just Socialite Butterfly.
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Unless, of course, Silvio dies here too.

I don't think he will, because I feel like Bitterman thinks it'd be more dramatic for him to survive for further conflicts, but... let's be real here. If health levels worked the same way for NPCs as they do for us, he'd probably be one or two hits away from certain death.

Edit: And maybe I'm wrong, maybe this is the part where he dies, after VG has said the worst possible thing to spit on his anguish.
 
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I did buy Arcus' plan of using a body double for Yara could've worked, but there was so much ground to cover that I ended up going along with the leading plans. A possible scenario we could've done is slowly bring Yara out into the Yard while whenever Handyman strikes in his Yara disguise, he could go back to the group then have MW obfuscate people's vision outside the group and shuffled between the Yara's, therefore not even SB could've easily tell without burning another Wolong clone. I'm not gonna blame myself too much for not thinking on that though due to the complications involved.

What I will blame myself is overestimating how dumb the clones can be at just pulling transformation right there and turning into Yara in the middle of the fight. It would've thrown so much confusion for the clones in the yard fight and leaned the fight towards our favor.

Oh well, them's the breaks. I'm just glad people survived.
 
ScorpioSting said:
At the very least, Silvio can make the obvious inference (Seraph's head was crushed and her body was by the clone Man O' War, who he can clearly see because he's in the room and should know that he's dead) and not blame us for her death, just Socialite Butterfly.
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I bet Crusade won't care and blame her's and their soldier's deaths on us in an attempt to get a victory over us. Since we literally have kick their asses.
 
Heck we're not even limited to Yara, Handyman could've transformed into any of the clones in the yard fight and it would've made the clones indecisive af and be so confused at what Nox was doing to this other Nox. Even with Seraph coordination and clones reporting back to SB telepathically, that's still a moment of confusion in the battlefield that would've been key.

…..you know what?

I wonder what would've happened if Handyman transformed into Harper; it doesn't matter if Handyman might've never met her in person when she's such a public face in JU; he doesn't necessarily have to be Harper specifically, can also be Red Huntress. Would the clones report this back to the boss and cause SB to go ballistic? It might not work as much considering clones are dumb, but awwwww the potential. Handyman would be in Harper disguise throughout and mock SB for failing to tame her, rubbing her failure right on her face. It would give Handyman a gigantic-ass target on his back, but god it might make SB so catatonic she'd be distracted from anything else and give everyone else a chance to strike.
 
EternalObserver said:
What I will blame myself is overestimating how dumb the clones can be at just pulling transformation right there and turning into Yara in the middle of the fight. It would've thrown so much confusion for the clones in the yard fight and leaned the fight towards our favor.
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My conscience is clear. I've been voting this entire arc to have Handyman do a Yara morph! Unfortunately it seems ideas that come from plans late in the voting cycle don't have much chance of gaining traction.

I will still vote for a Handyman Yara morph in what time is left in this arc. Even if it's just to taunt Socialite Butterfly.
 
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