Man that must be so frustrating, the person you want so much revenge is right there, but also there's no way to execute on that desire without it feeling utterly hollow. I can see why SB is not a well-adjusted lady!
Project Prometheus (Original Setting Superhero Quest)
Thinking about it impersonating SB to tey and control the clones might be better for the remarch with sb if she escapes.
The fact she needs serpah for telepathic coms likely means the clones obey based on appearance and voice rather than some sort of connection.
Probably something like their dna being mod to obey SB.
The fact she needs serpah for telepathic coms likely means the clones obey based on appearance and voice rather than some sort of connection.
Probably something like their dna being mod to obey SB.
EternalObserver
eYe Gaze baCk
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- The Void
Well, if the aim is to taunt, Harper would be so much better. It would make Handyman have to constantly watch his back so long as SB is alive,
But in exchange…
It would give Socialite Butterfly the biggest mald in the face of planet earth. And sometimes that's just enough to make it worth.
You think her foaming at the mouth was her trigger face? Wait till you see this one
An opening for VG to take down her ace and maybe eveb actually hurt SB would be worth it. Considering how short tempered she is making a snap order is totally in the cards.Well, if the aim is to taunt, Harper would be so much better. It would make Handyman have to constantly watch his back so long as SB is alive,
But in exchange…
It would give Socialite Butterfly the biggest mald in the face of planet earth. And sometimes that's just enough to make it worth.
You think her foaming at the mouth was her trigger face? Wait till you see this one
Need to have DS put 2 Shields on him though to make sure he survives.
Being a shapeshifter does make it hard dor SB to aim for Hm so it could he worth it. Plus we know she didnt dare aim for Uirra privably cause the apiary nulls mr whaa
Morrowlark
You've lost something, haven't you?
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Listen.
Listen to me. Look me in my lifeless eyes which have forgotten the spark of joy. You should follow your heart and release a 500k word update with multiple footnotes.
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Oh I'm not expecting the update to be ready until after Christmas, maybe even after New Years.
Kermie
Roses Are Red, I'm Single And Blue
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- Hell (An Unfinished Google Doc)
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- Any
Become like Araki and make this a monthly series. Do it for the peak. (Tho maybe make arcs 2 parts in that case)
Hey, so, we've seen SB's face now... This probably won't work, but depending on how her power functions, especially the command part, what if handyman turned into her and tried to command fhe clones?
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You haven't actually. She's still wearing a butterfly-mask.
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I thought the block was that Mr. Whaaa?'s death didn't retroactively restore the memories of them walking into the building that everyone ignored.
Ferb_Ancos
The one under the table
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- He
In the best case escenario, maybe if we knock SB out cold we could take over control of the clones. Either that it would just confuse them since there are two SB's now.
To talk about something else, I think SB's power works with something like "charges" that presave the metahuman copy that can be turned into a clone. But by making a clone, she uses the respective charge. So she can make any of the clones we have seen till now since she has made them ahead, so she has touched them and saving the "charges" again. The thing would be to have her make a clone and kill it before she could touch it again, so she loses the power forever.
Parabola
Divided Loyalties Librarian
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- The Destination of Fate
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- She/Her
I think part of the problem re: the Handyman impersonation thing is just that there were way too many moving parts to this fight. I guess that was the idea IC from SB: to pit us against Crusade so we can be distracted and exhausted once she swoops in... but to an extent that was also the case OOC.
While in the previous vote there were plans to have Handyman impersonate Yara or be in position to do so if necessary, they didn't get much traction because of other parts which people disagreed on, such as what to do about Stockpile and his psychic siphon, who exactly to send against Seraph to protect Swan, etc. And Handyman leaving the Yard would have meant that LL would probably have had to face Ete and Joules simultaneously, which would probably have been a very difficult fight, anyway.
Similarly with this vote: Suleverf's War is Chaos plan had HM turn into Yara and attack Nox, but that was very late in the vote, and there wasn't enough momentum to make and push a variant of the leading plans which had HM do that.
We were warned numerous times that this would be a chaotic mission and that the SB clones have a hard time adapting to new circumstances, so we should mostly blame ourselves, I think...
But I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a bit frustrated at these circumstances.
While in the previous vote there were plans to have Handyman impersonate Yara or be in position to do so if necessary, they didn't get much traction because of other parts which people disagreed on, such as what to do about Stockpile and his psychic siphon, who exactly to send against Seraph to protect Swan, etc. And Handyman leaving the Yard would have meant that LL would probably have had to face Ete and Joules simultaneously, which would probably have been a very difficult fight, anyway.
Similarly with this vote: Suleverf's War is Chaos plan had HM turn into Yara and attack Nox, but that was very late in the vote, and there wasn't enough momentum to make and push a variant of the leading plans which had HM do that.
We were warned numerous times that this would be a chaotic mission and that the SB clones have a hard time adapting to new circumstances, so we should mostly blame ourselves, I think...
But I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a bit frustrated at these circumstances.
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- A place
For the record even if we had confused them with Yara clones it still wouldn't be difficult for SB to snatch up both Yara's . With her lineup we are just lucky we aren't in a worse position
It's worth keeping in mind plans only confer more or less bonuses, we're not punished for missing something.
But I agree the planning did get kinda messy there. One thing I wonder is that in cases where fights are clearly divided into theatres like this, maybe it'd work to have a separate plan for each theatre?
As long as that doesn't just result in triple the total plan length…
Namer
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- Maryland
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Also its not like we could've predicted LL would demolish Joules and Ete would have a breakdown in the middle of the fight or Ellie would wreck Stockpile's shit even after Stockpile uses his equivalent of a module ultimate. If any of those fights had rolled poorly we would've appreciated having Handyman on the yard a lot more.
Parabola
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The issue there is that people can go from one theater to another, they're just convenient ways of conceptualizing the fight. That's how Chatelet went up into the sky to help Swan and VG took Stockpile into the nearby wooded area.
If it'd just been us vs Crusade, I don't think it would have gotten this complex. The issue is that we were worried about Socialite Butterfly coming in and we weren't sure exactly how she would do that.
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- in the trash
When one of them is a shapeshifter who can make you deeply regret making a mistake by growing a bunch of very sharp blades? Pull the other one.
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That's completely fair. For fights of this size, I'm going to have to rethink how to do plans. I broke the fights into different theaters to make it easier for me to write, but I think I need to break the omnibus vote into smaller parts. Maybe into three separate votes on what each group should do. It would remove your ability to move people around, but that might be a small price to pay.
I'm still a rookie QM, so I'll work on improving this in the future.
Honestly I think this was fine too it was just us getting use to fighting in such large theater. Which could also work as IC explanation.
Since LL in commanding a fight of this scale and new JU doesnt have experience in large scale fights yet.
Our past fights were basically just 1 fight agaisnt a Kaiju. Plus faustian was pretty much 2 didferent fights since no one but Bs could really fight against SM.
Since LL in commanding a fight of this scale and new JU doesnt have experience in large scale fights yet.
Our past fights were basically just 1 fight agaisnt a Kaiju. Plus faustian was pretty much 2 didferent fights since no one but Bs could really fight against SM.
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TBH I have zero expectation that quest voting systems can produce actually coherent strategy or planning without one or two people having the pull to consistently sway a lot of voters.
Rather than striving for the mechanically "optimal" outcome, it's probably more productive to look at what would lead to the most interesting narratives.
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Against opponents like Shutdown, Indemnity, Man o War, Automne, Uiara, Nox VpCrimson Soprano and all while under stealth by Mr Waah? Handyman stands a good chance of being beaten because against that lineup I don't thinkHandyalman is scoring us a victory especially with the fighting combo of Mr Waah, Indemnity, And Shutdown....
By the way can Socialite Butterfly do Algernons?
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That's how I tend to approach it. Reward, not punish plans and give bonuses for good storylines.
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Parabola
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Don't sweat it, you're doing way better than many QMs. I'd say it's just that this mission is an outlier.
These are both fair takes, honestly. Focusing on the narrative overall makes more sense for this kind of system.