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I'm going to say no. LL probably wouldn't go for it, and Cain definitely wouldn't.
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StarSingerBlue
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Since does Mona have 5 P13s
Also yeah, the Algernon Cain thing is fucked up morality wise. He honestly doesn't deserve that and I want to wait to find out whatever VS found out before using any Algernon DNA.
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Continuing from before.
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Hey!
Crusade are complete assholes for this. It's very clear to me that they want to keep Horizon unstable so they can justify more power-grabs in the name of "restoring peace". It's very good that Monarch herself has not played along and lashed out, at least for now. But it is inevitable if they keep the pressure cooker on as they are basically trying to use Monarch as a pawn for their goals.
What a curious and not at all foreboding name.
Isn't Lethal Anodyne still formally associated with Powers? This seems like an angle we can clamp down on.
Due to recent events, presented without further commentary.
Hmm, what's going on in the South Pacific? As the perennial Yankee bugbear I assume it involves China in some way.
What the hell is an "active instance"? Most powers are not automatic or always on, but what about those that are? I don't understand how Black Swan's energy body counts as active but being a sentient black hole does not. Unless the answer is just "powers are weird" I guess.
Does she have notes on family dinners? Setplays? Strategic doctrine? What a curious thing to say.
Bruh, she can faintly hear the whispers and she's not even inside. This shit is dire.
I just want to repeat that this also just sounds mean and I would have difficulty accepting it as the mere extreme incompetence it is.
I don't know if the thread is read to talk about Zixuan's and Nora's extreme codependent relationship. She realizes that she enabled Nora on her "road to greatness" but has not processed how much it is still a pillar of her identity and especially how it did not help Nora in the end.
Is this some double-entendre I'm not familiar with?
What? Like we're some kinda Justice Unlimited?
Damn, only the former GJ members went to the wall? I thought this kinda thing would be easy PR for the Horae Guard to establish themselves.
Why the hell does he want Black Swan to lead and not one of his colleagues from Crusade? Even if he may be smitten with her. The fact the she's immortal won't matter for decades at minimum, so why does he want her to lead now? It's crazy that someone as bought into the whole thing as Silvio is doesn't have faith in any of his other teammates to lead; like, they might not even be bothering to pretend to give a shit.
Just want to remind people that Cain was in fact not part of the normal pool and instead got special treatment. Keep it in mind.
Is there some sort of natural selection process going on where Potency 13 people are disproportionately likely to be incredibly difficult to kill and thus got put in Wonderland instead of getting murked when they became too bothersome? If not, that's actually even scarier.
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Though honestly, as impressive as P13 is, there seems to be a definite ability, within reason, to punch above and below their weight, as far as it goes. For instance, LL could decisively defeat Black Swan by simply charming her and/or reminding her that she's still a provisional member. 
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No, I'd say going in that direction would probably prefer Song the most of the lot. He'd need 1 Spoonful and a Fastpass for it (to add Soldier X) or making a variation on the build core, but this is fundamentally a strong relatively tanky melee build which he seems the best suited for here.
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Though honestly, as impressive as P13 is, there seems to be a definite ability, within reason, to punch above and below their weight, as far as it goes. For instance, LL could decisively defeat Black Swan by simply charming her and/or reminding her that she's still a provisional member.
Yeah, I don't really believe the Potency number is everything. Honestly, just look at our entire DNA list. People are just putting too much weight on "big number".
It's the power level mentality, and I particularly abhor that.
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This would necessitate the Horae Guard actually having had anyone they cared about in Horizon, I think.
Kermie
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As the person who put in Shelley, I feel like thematically either one of the builds I put in earlier or Defy Together would work for her… while as for pure bruiser characters, maybe we can save that for Homer. (Soldier X's version of regen would probably help with the drug thing, after all.)
I think it's a consequence of being told that Monarch has 5 P13s in the pocket and the Moon River mission recommending 4 P13s.
Now all the enemy P13s in the world don't matter if they happen to be in range of a power null at the same time, but in a general war of heroes it will be an uphill battle in the same way that beating Scarlet Maturity without some kind of Black Swan is.
Though I am also leery of a single minded obsession with P13s. I don't want all of our other cool heroes overshadowed by virtue of not being the biggest stick in the room. For now I think the 2 remaining questline associated high tolerance candidates are a decent number to work with, and I don't want to make a mad dash for creating other P13 heroes if it means recklessly ignoring other considerations. For example, handing Cain a P13 power when our PR situation is already tenuous or having that power be an Algernon-type just because we are lacking one.
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Also I'm a little confused at the "Max Potency" thing. Like in the rules, it had 10 as the highest Potency, and I assumed that it was just the case that any Potency 13 power you had to do the triple-down (-3 Potency) on having there be major side-effects to use it?
Candidates have tolerance, where 10 is the highest. A powerset has potency, and the potency can never exceed the tolerance. So potency 13 is the effective max, as -3 is the most you can do for potency reduction.
Therefore P13, max potency, max tolerance, or 10 tolerance can be used interchangeably in the context of candidates.
Edit: Though for the resulting heroes, P13/P11/P10 have differing chances of side effects for a max tolerance candidate in line with what Bitterman mentions below.
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China invaded Taiwan and Korea; Japan also invaded Korea
You think if it's "when the power is on". Mona's construct body is a a project that's always running. Her black hole self is just who she passively is.
Pretty much that. Killing Warpstar is more of a pain then just locking him away.
Remember, Dr. Ibis specifically says in Adamant's profile "weird, I thought his power would be a high potency considering how strong he is, guess numbers aren't everything". It's Jojo rules. Some powers are stronger than others, but creative applications will always win out. (Which is why Jolyne is best Jojo, but we'll set aside for now).
No, that's right. Tolerance only goes to 10 and then you have to reduce the potency of the actual Ambrosia which adds the chance of side effect.
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Yet another reason I really wanna take this:
I Fear Not The Man Who Has Practiced 10,000 Kicks: Lady Leizi has fallen behind in combat ability. Even to Menagerie Witch. This is unacceptable. One quick method would be to give her a weapon. She prefers fighting with her hands, but it might be better to not have to touch everything she wants to hurt. And she wants to hurt a LOT. (OPERATIONS check, Build a weapon for Lady Leizi, +1 to Lady Leizi's HIT, Unlocks Global Action I Fear the Man Who Has Practiced One Kick 10,000 Times)
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I'd probably push for the Courageous Carmilla one if trying to have her be a mainline combatant. Non Nox builds work for that but don't quite allow for the same level of direct action while still letting her hit Esp.
Where that should always lock down Nox/Eastwood/Millions off the emotional manipulation angle and leaving 4 cost left.
Memoria can work in theory but it feels like its not really building into the grabbag nature with Easywood/Millions so I'm not a fan here. And this needs some type of defense most likely if being a direct combat so there's need to be either Steadfast, Adamant, or Soldier X. Adamant here kinda gets dunked from the fact that Nox has a transformation and regeneration tag at baseline, so Soldier X alone could potentially hit Autobiokinesis, leaving 2 options at the moment)
Steadfast/Daggermaw/Multiplex (More direct invuln and combat based but lacking the potential spying/quiet ability to rabble rouse with ABO)
Soldier X/Daggermaw/Multiplex/+1 (Depends on if we think Hunch/Hydrocity do anything here vs only doing -2 Potency)(Autobiokinesis option for healing and spying, imo primarily depends on if we find any other fitting 1 costs or not to round it out)
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I definitely think the Old Grandmaster should have a set of powers that let him fight like he usually does, but... MORE. That's probably the best way to obscure things a little bit? Not sure what that'd entail though, tbf.
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....effective....but holy, thats kinda dark...
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Fuck, why not Deadman+Soldier X-1 Potency+2 (Fast Pass) or something like that?
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...Hella dark but won't deny it could work. Relies on Soldier X too just for revitalizing him but that technically gives the baseline costing.
The funny world is we could in theory give him 2 of Multiplex/Daggermaw/Hydrocity off of fast pass depending on how we leaned into it, namely Multi/Daggermaw for ABO + strength or Daggermaw/Hydrocity for furthering elemental control + better senses/strength (Lean into like steambender and hitting harder?).
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To clarify, this combination could accomplish several things.
First, Soldier X and her regeneration and Fitness might morph the expression of Deadman's powers into a more fitting theme/etc for someone who is going to be a close-range martial artist.
Second, if there's any secondary powers that don't rely on dying to activate, anything like, "Oh, you regenerate a bit faster" or so on can be easily explained: explicitly people weren't sure if Soldier X had powers.
Third, while it's not mega-synergy, to follow up on #1: Regeneration+Regeneration+Fitness seems like it could end in some interesting states/etc for a little more of that Wolverine flavor.
Fourth, the elemental manipulation/etc stuff could wind up pretty cool. Flame punches, anyone?
Fifth, this would create a Potency 6, mid-range power. This is perfect to have on someone who has decades of experience, is dedicated to self-improvement, and is already explicitly at a pretty high Hit for an ordinary mortal. Song is the exact sort of person to take that kind of power and hit more like a Potency 8-9 or whatever.
First, Soldier X and her regeneration and Fitness might morph the expression of Deadman's powers into a more fitting theme/etc for someone who is going to be a close-range martial artist.
Second, if there's any secondary powers that don't rely on dying to activate, anything like, "Oh, you regenerate a bit faster" or so on can be easily explained: explicitly people weren't sure if Soldier X had powers.
Third, while it's not mega-synergy, to follow up on #1: Regeneration+Regeneration+Fitness seems like it could end in some interesting states/etc for a little more of that Wolverine flavor.
Fourth, the elemental manipulation/etc stuff could wind up pretty cool. Flame punches, anyone?
Fifth, this would create a Potency 6, mid-range power. This is perfect to have on someone who has decades of experience, is dedicated to self-improvement, and is already explicitly at a pretty high Hit for an ordinary mortal. Song is the exact sort of person to take that kind of power and hit more like a Potency 8-9 or whatever.
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I would like to go in a completely different direction and use any three of Daggermaw, Multiplex, Sewer Rat and Adamant to guarantee Transformation with a good chance of nice stuff like Enhanced Strength or Senses. Solves the cover issue and lends itself well to versatility. The mimum version of this is only 5 Potency as well so we could squeeze another sample if we wanted.
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Soldier X + Daggermaw, Soldier X+ Steadfast? Honestly someone like Kuroki Gensai from Kengan Asura is what I'm thinking of. Yes, he has a special technique that lets him punch holes in people with his fingers, but most of his threat just comes from sheer experience and polished fundamentals.
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Maybe, though I have become addicted to the idea of the Resurrection Power, too.
StarSingerBlue
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Remember that right now we can give Sing a power that can be 6 max. We can do something cool with Frostbite maybe.