Taylor being a double trigger is fully canon it's said when during gm she can't handle not being able to do anything to Scion other than be a minor distraction so she runs to Cauldron hoping they can 2nd trigger her only for number man to tell her while it is a service they offer it can't be done on her because she double triggered so she can't trigger again.
That was more what I meant by the 1.5 Trigger, as there is a marked difference from the behaviors of characters who either had the back-to-back Trigger Boost versus circumstances like Grue's, but there's no clear distinction in terminology for someone who didn't need to undo whatever coping they've managed for a traumatic upgrade. Thanks to Grue, we at least get a Before & After of how the power might change (like the slower output but overall increase in all parameters along with the Trump effect), which doesn't really help in the case of the Trigged From Triggering upgrades or what part of it was nerfed as the Shard shuffles the settings around.

Admittedly, I definitely didn't remember Smoking Crystal Math's input, it was mainly a half-remembered scene where... Either Amy or Lisa was explaining those to Taylor, which very well may have gotten mixed with any number of various fics. It's been a minute since I've reread the OG source.
 
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Heartbreaker was a Cauldron plot. They want an army of parahumans, so why not Master them all into beating Scion?

Doctor Mother is gonna be kiiinda pissed that one man is taking out all of her pieces on the board.

Maybe she'll insist on Alexandria taking him out, instead? I'm sure that'll go really well...
Honestly I can't wait for Alexandria to get on the wrong side of an angry void dragon~!
 
Awww, maaan. What a gyp. That's like $0.28 US.

16103,65 us $ in today conversion in fact,wich feel a litle low for heartbreaker .

edit:i'm curious to see if there is gonna be the buch of deadman switch we always see in fanon as a justification for not killing him.
It's also an British dad joke because Heartbreaker is a literal CAD.

Usually lower class, vulgar and uncouth and should never be trusted; especially around women.
 
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I hope Alex uses his new power in order to change the emotions of the Heartbreaker victims into something more helpful.

I'm also a bit exasperated that he doesn't use all those saved up points for his gear.

He could make his suit damage resistant, make it change shape with his body (when he transforms into a dragon), change colour, change form/style, become self-cleaning, become damage resistant, add a shield, add flight, become intagible (with wearer), add expanded pockets, recall suit if he ever loses it, and so on.

His car and omniweapon could also be changed with all those points. For the car, it could become self-cleaning, get a shield, get impact resistance, get kinetic divertion, get self-repair, get flight, get intangibility, get a burrowing ability, get increased speed, get an external transformation ability, get some defensive weapons, add powersupply for the back, add plumbing for the back, get the ability to shoot out confoam, and so on.
 
That emotion manipulation sounds evil. But enforcing calm or fear or bravery all sound like useful crowd control abilities. Make your enemies fear you, give your allies courage and calm civilians so they can leave without a panic.
 
That emotion manipulation sounds evil. But enforcing calm or fear or bravery all sound like useful crowd control abilities. Make your enemies fear you, give your allies courage and calm civilians so they can leave without a panic.
I'd be testing it on someone who really needs a better headspace. Capture Jack Slash and constantly hit him with stuff to level it up. See if it's more malleable with more options as he levels it up. Making it last for a length of time beyond permanent would let it work more ethically.

And who the hell cares if Jacko's head gets screwed with?
 
"but potentially very useful on Minerva" I would have thought that Absolute Territory would protect her from Heartbreaker so long as she stayed in range. Though I can certainly see leaving her out of it simply so that she doesn't have to kill anyone.

I wonder if he'll kill Saint. Unless I'm forgetting something, it's not really necessary to free Dragon, and Saint et al aren't really that dangerous once "their" tech is taken from them.

It's based on Citrinne's power which is a lot shorter ranged than Heartbreakers and has to basically be tuned to whatever power she wants to suppress so best to play it safe.

I am also against freeing Dragon in the sense of unchaining her and will add Saint is dangerous because of the info he'll have learned through Dragon, he's basically a drug addict going through withdrawal from Teacher and the general gist of his personality is he's someone who thought himself a special snowflake and has chosen her as his designated evil to vanquish.

For the sake of fairness tho I will add the dragonslayers did actually have a point. It's usually forgotten but they did actually debate on using Ascalon where they raised a lot of good arguments for it but sadly later on Lisa got to give him a reason you suck speech with the benefit of hindsight so he was only allowed to defend himself there with brand new reasons that were flimsier than anything mentioned before so she could tear them apart which is all anyone ever remembers on the topic.
 
Alchemist should 100% use the heartbreaker power on as many people as possible in as a permament fashion as possible? He should use it to inflict shame on every single last cape and PRT worker he meets. Let them get a little tiny shred of self awareness
 
"Yes," Alec agreed. "It fucking sucks. If the Canadians had just shot the bastard when he started his kidnapping spree twenty years ago- and don't tell me they can't! The world record holder for furthest confirmed kill is held by a Canadian- then I wouldn't be cleaning up this mess!"

Love you included that Tidbit, I remember the Sniping Record getting brought up in Global History 12 when we were covering War, sadly I forgot the Name
 
16103,65 us $ in today conversion in fact,wich feel a litle low for heartbreaker

This is a good question. What would the exchange rate look like in Earth Bet. There is a lot going on today to stregnth the Canadian dollar, to the detriment of Alberta since energy is traded in the US dollar. In 2011, the average exchange in our world was 1.0116, at worst .9492 per a quick google search. Would that hold given all the geopolitical implication of everything WORM presents. Particularly the decline of sea lane security vital for global energy and food trade. Also the lost af an entire geographic region of Canada?

In the end, probably since it is so integrated with the US. Perhaps a bit weaker, but that would just make it more attractive for industry and turn right around the stregnthen the Cdollar. So likely very similar to history exchange rates. Now the size of the Global economy in WORM is a whole nother barrel of questions.
 
Didn't HeartBreaker have a thing for capturing Female hero's or is that fandom?

Largely fandom. The highest profile target that Heartbreaker went after was an actress. The heat he drew from pulling that stunt actually cost him quite a lot, forcing him to leave behind the majority of his harem and run.

I would imagine that, since that issue, he's been more risk averse. Sticking to women that were largely unable to fight back in any significant way. Actively going after female capes could well draw the kind of attention he'd managed to avoid as a 'small time' nuisance.
 
one useful thing for this power is using very obscure emotions to deal with people, there are entire emotions you cant even describe with English words

heck just borrow the stuff in the dictionary of obscure sorrows, and it works fantastically at changing a person in a way the PRT would have a hard time even explaining

just hit Jack Slash with crippling Koinophobia


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kcjfi8oNQY8

or Astrophe to Manequin


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1SkepihYLE

heck, Klexos could break Yangbang mind control and brainwashing, it would fuck over a vast majority of parahumans because it pretty much helps you deal with trauma


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxN1YnVUfjM

wonder if mental wellness counts as an emotion, or at least enough to cure sociopathy with "a small amount of every emotion"

Empathy beam would be devastating on villains

I'd imagine that a natural double trigger is actually rather common among powers that have a Thinker aspect to them, such as knowing where an instance of, say, fire would be within a certain range.

Straight Thinkers like Lisa or Dinah probably wouldn't have that happen to them, not within the context of their original trigger, but Taylor as has been mentioned is a good example. Her Thinker powers are an aspect of the whole, rather than being the whole.

I wouldn't be surprised if Burnscar of the Slaughterhouse 9 might be another example of another double trigger.

Although, if I recall correctly, people that go through a second trigger are usually more unstable. And, well, given her need for control, lack of communication skills and overall martyr complex? That's distressingly accurate in regards to Taylor, isn't it?

know examples are also grue and Narwhal, both had very violent pasts

This is a good question. What would the exchange rate look like in Earth Bet. There is a lot going on today to stregnth the Canadian dollar, to the detriment of Alberta since energy is traded in the US dollar. In 2011, the average exchange in our world was 1.0116, at worst .9492 per a quick google search. Would that hold given all the geopolitical implication of everything WORM presents. Particularly the decline of sea lane security vital for global energy and food trade. Also the lost af an entire geographic region of Canada?

In the end, probably since it is so integrated with the US. Perhaps a bit weaker, but that would just make it more attractive for industry and turn right around the stregnthen the Cdollar. So likely very similar to history exchange rates. Now the size of the Global economy in WORM is a whole nother barrel of questions.

gasoline prices are stupid high in bet, enough that biofuels are probably way more common

but yeah I can see the Canadian dollar being stronger than the regular dollar, smaller richer population, like a middle eastern country
 
It's based on Citrinne's power which is a lot shorter ranged than Heartbreakers and has to basically be tuned to whatever power she wants to suppress so best to play it safe.

I am also against freeing Dragon in the sense of unchaining her and will add Saint is dangerous because of the info he'll have learned through Dragon, he's basically a drug addict going through withdrawal from Teacher and the general gist of his personality is he's someone who thought himself a special snowflake and has chosen her as his designated evil to vanquish.

For the sake of fairness tho I will add the dragonslayers did actually have a point. It's usually forgotten but they did actually debate on using Ascalon where they raised a lot of good arguments for it but sadly later on Lisa got to give him a reason you suck speech with the benefit of hindsight so he was only allowed to defend himself there with brand new reasons that were flimsier than anything mentioned before so she could tear them apart which is all anyone ever remembers on the topic.
I only really know fannon Dragon, who is basically agreed to be the only unequivocally good person in Worm. If that's not the case in cannon, then there's still strong arguments to be made for removing some of her limiters, and even if nothing else, taking Ascalon away from the dragonslayers.

As for the dragonslayers themselves, Alec could always just turn them over to the guild to deal with. It's their secrets the dragonslayers know after all. It doesn't really feel like an Alec thing to do though. Honestly, killing them because they know too much doesn't feel like something he'd do either. If they haven't done something objectively evil, I wouldn't be surprised if he just took the laptop, destroyed the stolen tech, and turned them over to the local police. Maybe also a heads up to Dragon and the Guild so they know that dragonslayers are about to spill all their secrets.

This is a good question. What would the exchange rate look like in Earth Bet. There is a lot going on today to stregnth the Canadian dollar, to the detriment of Alberta since energy is traded in the US dollar. In 2011, the average exchange in our world was 1.0116, at worst .9492 per a quick google search. Would that hold given all the geopolitical implication of everything WORM presents. Particularly the decline of sea lane security vital for global energy and food trade. Also the lost af an entire geographic region of Canada?

In the end, probably since it is so integrated with the US. Perhaps a bit weaker, but that would just make it more attractive for industry and turn right around the stregnthen the Cdollar. So likely very similar to history exchange rates. Now the size of the Global economy in WORM is a whole nother barrel of questions.
I think it'll basically come down to which country got hit harder by endbringers. It's hard to guess which it would be though since the USA has so much more occupied land to be hit by them.
 
Emotional Manipulation 1/20: You can now tamper with the emotions of anyone you can see. Love, hate, lust, disgust and more can be focused on specific targets and intensified at will! Range: 5 Meters. Cost: 50 SP/Second
WARNING: The effects of Emotional Manipulation are permanent!

Alec: (Jamaican accent) "Don't worry! Be happy, mon!"

Birdcage inmates: 😎🌻🏖️
 
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