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Pound the Table | An X-Men Self-Insert
- Thread starter October Daye
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Damn and double damn. You told us they were in on this together, and I should have expected they wouldn't let themselves lose so easily. But it still caught me by surprise.
Also, good luck with the bar exam results and your job hunt! I wish you the best of luck!
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Every single character I've played in Marvel RPG's and a few snip based characters would be hard pressed to not go Magneto over this intentional act. To the point the one telepath would consider breaking his 'don't control others' oath to force tge DA, Judge, and anyone else who was a part of the travesty to confess on TV that they purposely set everything up to railroad St. John.
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So we are coming up to the Pounding the Table moment then.
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Evaunit02mark1
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In your defense there's "Not losing easily" and then there's "Taking the book of Law and using it to wipe your ass."
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The amount of lawyers, judges, justices, and lawmakers who have, as you put it, "[taken] the book of Law and [used] it to wipe [their] ass" is, unfortunately, too damn high.
The only reason this isn't barely a footnote is because it's the first such case, as opposed to the... I don't know, fifty-third.
Ganurath
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...Was that a Worm reference? Case 53 is the official term in that setting for parahumans with physical mutations.
Also, I'm surprised Young didn't try to use Kitty's theater ties to undermine the sincerity of her performance.
bookwyrm
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That might work if she wasn't still a drama student, if she went to some gig in a local theatre the DA might have been able to spin that as her being some street-wise bohemian brat playing at an ingenue, but as a theatre geek all the jury can see is the teenager.
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Always Late
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So that's what they came up with under the extended time: find some idiot who'd step into the court, either through bad impulse control or misleading directions of a "sympathetic" moron, and run the future campaign on the conviction. Given "recent trends", an appeal overturn could very well bolster their base's support.
I'm not all that familiar with X-Men and how Marvel's handled their legal sphere stuff, but given the stated date of the late 80's, the only way those two are getting any pushback is if Fisk, being present for this whole farce and having some ties to Magneto, decides those two are potential threats to his budding criminal empire.
That said, an investigation into the poor guard's activities and some persuasion may force the pair to step more carefully.
I'm not all that familiar with X-Men and how Marvel's handled their legal sphere stuff, but given the stated date of the late 80's, the only way those two are getting any pushback is if Fisk, being present for this whole farce and having some ties to Magneto, decides those two are potential threats to his budding criminal empire.
That said, an investigation into the poor guard's activities and some persuasion may force the pair to step more carefully.
deadcrystal
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It's almost impossible for a judge to face consequences of any kind, particularly when there are actual mandates saying you're required to act under the presumption that every decision the judge made was in good faith and must be upheld and their standards preserved going forward.
The absolute shitshow that was the trial of the Chicago 7 had a lot of the judge's decisions overturned...but he got to keep on being a judge without facing any actual consequences.
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Honestly I feel kinda relieved. I was stressed out the whole way through this chapter waiting for the other shoe to drop so when it actually happened and it wasn't that bad I actually felt better. Like I was expecting Kitty to discover her powers on the stand or a false flag mutant attack or something so merely an incredibly staged way to prejudice the jury feels a lot better.
At this point as I'd be tempted to just tell the jury to vote guilty since the Judge has just chosen to waste their time deliberating on something that will be inevitably overturned.
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Oh, those motherfuckers. And they're not even doing it out of an honest conviction that mutants are all dangerous or an affront to god or anything, twisted as that conviction would be, this is ruining at least one person and possibly an entire minority's life/lives to win an election, sheer lust for power, in contravention of every oath they've ever sworn as people in the profession they are and holding the offices they do.
This is exactly why having judges, DAs, sheriffs, and other officers of the law be elected positions is a horrible idea. Holy shit these bastards need to go down, and not just the judge and the prosecutor either, that possibly-jury foreman looks to have also violated their oaths. What I want to know is, was former-Officer Reynolds promised anything for coming in smoking, is he a knowing tool of this travesty of justice, or was he somehow tricked into it?
And the appellate court's ruling may come too late for St. John, shanked in prison for the crime of being a mutie - well, more likely it'll come to late for the nice boy St. John is now, as he'll almost certainly be the subject of a prison break by Magneto long before the legal system gets around to putting things as right as they ever can be, after this.
The idea that this bastard of a judge will likely get away without any (legal) consequences infuriates me, especially since the kind of consequences he's likely to see (visit by one very pissed St. John, freshly jailbroken by Magneto just in time to avoid something terrible either at the hands of the 'justice' system or other prisoners) will likely just further inflame (heh) tensions among the very bigots the judge and DA are using for their campaign.
I really hope this fucking prosecutor fails in his bid for office, but I'm becoming increasingly afraid he won't and will both profit from nakedly abusing the power of his office for his own gain and from further whipping anti-mutant bigots into a frenzy (until he suddenly and mysteriously dies in a fire on the same day the judge does, both cementing St. John's allegiances - if only for lack of options - and working the bigots into even more of a lather).
This is exactly why having judges, DAs, sheriffs, and other officers of the law be elected positions is a horrible idea. Holy shit these bastards need to go down, and not just the judge and the prosecutor either, that possibly-jury foreman looks to have also violated their oaths. What I want to know is, was former-Officer Reynolds promised anything for coming in smoking, is he a knowing tool of this travesty of justice, or was he somehow tricked into it?
And the appellate court's ruling may come too late for St. John, shanked in prison for the crime of being a mutie - well, more likely it'll come to late for the nice boy St. John is now, as he'll almost certainly be the subject of a prison break by Magneto long before the legal system gets around to putting things as right as they ever can be, after this.
The idea that this bastard of a judge will likely get away without any (legal) consequences infuriates me, especially since the kind of consequences he's likely to see (visit by one very pissed St. John, freshly jailbroken by Magneto just in time to avoid something terrible either at the hands of the 'justice' system or other prisoners) will likely just further inflame (heh) tensions among the very bigots the judge and DA are using for their campaign.
I really hope this fucking prosecutor fails in his bid for office, but I'm becoming increasingly afraid he won't and will both profit from nakedly abusing the power of his office for his own gain and from further whipping anti-mutant bigots into a frenzy (until he suddenly and mysteriously dies in a fire on the same day the judge does, both cementing St. John's allegiances - if only for lack of options - and working the bigots into even more of a lather).
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Dammmmn... This is getting me worried about if Andrews and Young win even for a moment... Cause I feel like SOMEHOW Erik is watching... And if he sees that Noa's way 'Doesn't work' then... I cringe at the possibilities...
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Hmm, I think it may have backfired though lol. This was VERY blatantly a stunt to set them against St.John.
Solarshade
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Nah, most of those expressions are noted as being directed towards St. John, as they are afraid of what he could have done.
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It's cheap theatrics, but well set up - shouting, sudden disturbances, and the implied threat at everyone in the court room. That's enough to rattle basically anyone. Even if they stop to think about it later, they'll have had that moment of shock and fear, and that's the kind of biasing he wants?
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I'm pretty damn sure St. John is going away, Erik will further radicalise, break out St. John who will have either completely understandably radicalised from this absolute bullshit or will do so soon after being broken out, leading both to his canon membership in the BoEM and some very tense interactions with Kitty after she joins Xavier*.
Once more, the oppression of the state breeds its own enemies.
Of course Erik, in reacting from a place of trauma in attempts to prevent what he's lived from ever occurring again,
*sigh*
Neither Xavier, who is too conciliatory, nor Erik, who is too quick to assume the worst, are entirely right, but nor are they entirely wrong, either. Shit's fucked, both in-universe and irl, and anyone who claims to have all the answers is lying, either to you or to themselves. Society must be made more equitable, more just, if it is to survive, but... that's not a simple or easy task, and one that can all too easily fail in a number of bloody ways.
* - in fact, does Kitty even know she's a mutant at this point, or is that gonna come out at the worst possible time that's not during her testimony, possibly in the absolute scrum that the press will have as they leave the courthouse? If she doesn't, I think the only reason she won't be signing up with Magneto once she manifests will be the SI's interactions with her, which considering how crucial she is to many of the X-Men's victories and indeed to the fabric of reality if we include some of the Cosmic bullshit the various X-teams occasionally get up to is a very good thing.
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Doom is interested don't count out meddling from that magnificent bastard. For good or ill I have no idea.
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Hmm, that sounds like something which has been misunderstood or misstated.
I think they have conflated two different things:
- Theatre lights sometimes start smoking and catch fire.
- Touching glass* with your hands leaves oils which in turn causes the glass* to heat unevenly which may cause cracking or shattering.
* The lights in question are quite probably halogen based and actually use quartz not glass.
And here I thought the big setback was going to be Kitty manifesting her powers during the cross-examination, especially since you highlighted how stressed out she was beforehand. It would have been a good victory for that schmuck Young, who could claim her testimony is tainted by the fact she's a mutant herself.
But for this to happen? For someone (presumably the DA and/or the judge) to clearly set this up to flagrantly bias the jury? I certainly didn't seem it coming, and I just hope it ends with the jury finding John not guilty and the DA and judge faced with some serious charges themselves.
Speaking as someone whose X-Men knowledge is limited to the movies, well done on your part for writing this story.
But for this to happen? For someone (presumably the DA and/or the judge) to clearly set this up to flagrantly bias the jury? I certainly didn't seem it coming, and I just hope it ends with the jury finding John not guilty and the DA and judge faced with some serious charges themselves.
Speaking as someone whose X-Men knowledge is limited to the movies, well done on your part for writing this story.
Maybe, but it's also possible that they set this up because they couldn't find a rebuttal witness.
I mean, SI sure thinks that the prosecutor had no chance at finding one (see👇)
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Makes sense... Due to the unique nature of Metahuman powers there is no bigger expert on a Metahuman's powers then the Metahuman themself.
I do have one question for it though... What was the definition of "Metahuman" the judge used?
Is the Judge trying to force a hung jury here?
Because there's almost no way at least one Juror doesn't recognize this for the blatant maleficence it is and go "nope" on principle...
Lab_Accident
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Speaking of hung jurors... As a law student from a civil law country: What the hell is an Allen charge and how is that legal?
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