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Nope. They're bone-white.
Huh. Here I was imagining her as looking like the rainbow tiger-lizard secretary from Dan and Mab's furry adventure. Or like that rainbow-lizard from Jack.

Or like a rainbow colored kobold. I guess I have a weird imagination. Or i'm just a furry. Whichever.

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This is gonna be interesting to see how Noa handle it. She better call in Matt Murdock since he knows Kingpin as his nemesis and how the latter operates.
uhh, Matt is still on the young side here, he and Foggy are still in Law School (Interning for Noa), I don't think Daredevil has a 'nemesis' yet, Kingpin or otherwise.

Even if Kingpin would be brought down, New York City will be thrown to chaos and anarchy by other criminal gangs and villains taking opportunity of the huge power vacuum that Kingpin left behind and they will fight each other for dominance and taking his place. Which would result a lot of civilian casualties caught in the crossfire that the heroes would be very hard pressed to stop and contain it.
as has been pointed out (either here or on SB, I forget which) Kingpin occasionally fakes his own death or allows/arranges for himself to be sent to prison, which set off a fight for the 'big chair' among his underlings/competitors; draining their resources and thinning the herd, only for him to move back into the spotlight crushing any that seemed to be getting too successful.

Blob may be (unknowingly) being used to set up one of these plots. In which case Kingpin won't send and (serious) attacks at Noa. Or this may not be part of a Kingpin plot in which case he could send super-assassins after her.
 
uhh, Matt is still on the young side here, he and Foggy are still in Law School (Interning for Noa), I don't think Daredevil has a 'nemesis' yet, Kingpin or otherwise.

as has been pointed out (either here or on SB, I forget which) Kingpin occasionally fakes his own death or allows/arranges for himself to be sent to prison, which set off a fight for the 'big chair' among his underlings/competitors; draining their resources and thinning the herd, only for him to move back into the spotlight crushing any that seemed to be getting too successful.

Blob may be (unknowingly) being used to set up one of these plots. In which case Kingpin won't send and (serious) attacks at Noa. Or this may not be part of a Kingpin plot in which case he could send super-assassins after her.
Oh I see, my bad. Matt Murdock hasn't become Daredevil yet since doing that while being a law student and intern would probably make him a bit similar with Peter Parker who juggled a lot between his high schooling and being Spider-Man.

Which is kinda funny as Kingpin was an enemy of Spider-Man in his rogue gallery before moving to be an archnemesis of Daredevil and the rest is history in Marvel Comics. Even Spidey lampshaded about it.

That too as well. Kingpin really was several steps ahead of his rivals and enemies before they even know that they have been played like puppets on strings upon them.

Wow, that's overkill if Kingpin sent superpowered assassins against Noa who wasn't a powerful mutant and knows how to use some basic magic from Doctor Strange. It's best Noa gets some help from the X-Men or even Magneto who's not yet at his Brotherhood of Mutants leader self and entrusted her to take care of Lorna as her legal guardian and adoptive mother.
 
I only briefly got a glimpse at the sign on the door – "Lazy Susan's", the place was called – before we were inside, and the warm indoor air had my glasses fogging up again.

I see what you did there.

Shoot, damn, shit, no, I needed to figure that out asap! No, wait, I needed another set of eyes on this, different step one!

Okay, I don't say this often, but Noa? Honey? Sweetie-bear? Wee poppet?

Calm your tits, it's just a date.

I mean, yeah, it's with Betsie Braddock, who is absolutely, amazingly, unquestionably, bewilderingly smoking drop dead gorgeous and you've had something of a dry spell for a while now but...
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Okay, a little enthusiasm is warranted. But still girl, contain the calamity that is your mammaries. 🤣

"Wait, a Brit?" Cate interrupted. I cut myself off with a squeak and nodded, realizing from the heat in my cheeks that I was blushing like a schoolgirl. "Alright… how were her teeth?"

Shots fired, right across the bow! I'd say that was a bit below the belt, but to be honest, I probably would have made a similar joke too. One with very enthusiastic eyebrow wagging.

I didn't get to finish what I said. Lorna lifted off from the floor and flew to her bedroom, slamming the door shut behind her.

Ouch. I felt that. All the hugs, right now. Lorna is going to very much regret reacting like that later on in life and how it's going to impact her relationship with Noa. Though at the moment, I'm wondering who is going to sit her down for a certain Talk.

Because her reaction was not unlike how Mutants get treated. Or how her grandfather and ancestors. I could go on but whooo, I don't think the thread needs that particular input from me.


... Oh, shit.

Freddie J. Dukes (if this is indeed you), what the hell did you get yourself involved in?????????????? I figure it's because our favorite pint-sized lawyer has very thoroughly derailed the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants from being a thing anytime soon if ever, thanks to being a good influence on who is perhaps Marvel's OG anti-villain. But ending up working for Fisk of all people?

Clearly, the butterflies caused by Noa's presence have spread even further and farther than realized.
 
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I just...Serbia is currently ruled by an Authoritarian Conservative Government whose prime minister is Ana Brnabić an openly gay woman in a long term relationship with Milica Đurđić with whom for all intents and most purposes she has a son named Igor.

Serbia's newspapers are having a field day right now, yes even the serious politically oriented ones, with Marija Šerifović getting a son by "surrogacy" with a woman in LA who most Serbian news calls "The Surrogate" and most of us here in the LGBTQ+ community of Serbia suspect is her wife who Marija is still unwilling to stand up for in the Serbian public.

I...we never had that sort of a gay panic. Like there are still religious leaders advocating and sometimes doing various forms of conversion therapy on non-Straight and/or non-Cis people and the 90s to the end of 2010s were really bad for LGBTQ+ people because the conservatism raised by the Yugoslav Wars and the global isolation of Serbia led to any and all minority groups perceived as political problems, so not the Rusyns, to be attacked repeatedly.

How is the Western world so much worse than us Serbs on this until like the late 2000s/early 2010s? And to be clear we have never been good to our non-Straight/non-Cis people.
 
How is the Western world so much worse than us Serbs on this until like the late 2000s/early 2010s? And to be clear we have never been good to our non-Straight/non-Cis people.
Welcome to the scars of the Cold War, they run deep in the American psyche. Well, that, and the AIDS epidemic at this specific point. And actually the Civil War too. Let's break it down.

Let's start with the US Civil War and the culture thereof. While the South lost the war, the failure of Reconstruction would allow them to go on to define society in a lot of ways, and when you let a bunch of racist theocratic military aristocrats from a neo-feudal society define your culture, you get internalized bigotry.

This set the stage for the early 1900s. We don't like to talk about it, but a lot of the same forces that brought the Nazis to power in Germany were also present and active in the US. But it actually wasn't as bad as it would be later. The general behavior at the time towards LGBTQ+ stuff was firmly in the Things We Do Not Talk About category. It could and did happen openly, but no one talked about it. Not ideal, but better than what would come next.

Enter the Cold War and the absolute deluge of propaganda. The nuclear family and the stay at home mother were now symbols of American pride. Complicating things further, the LGBTQ+ groups of the era were, well, pretty unabashedly associated with Communism, and therefore targets for the FBI and other such groups, as well as public scorn and hate. This was not a good time to be gay, the 1960s and 1970s, but worse was still to come.

June. 1981. The first case of AIDS is reported in America. And all hell breaks loose. It hits the gay community (and specifically the gays, not the lesbians) hard and fast. Ronald Reagan, damned be his name, saw a chance to knock out a voting block that historically opposed his party, and had the US government do nothing. (Okay, that's not entirely fair, the CDC started work pretty much instantly, but there was no big official response until 1986. If you're seeing parallels to more recent events, congratulations, you have pattern recognition.) The disease spread through the gay community like fire, killing thousands. If you've ever wondered why the lesbians get top billing in the acronym, it's because of the heroic efforts they made to save the gay community when no one else would. In the space of a decade, the San Francisco Gay Men's Chorus suffered over 100% casualties. It was brutal. And a lot of the US started to associate the disease with immorality, a punishment from god. We deserved what happened to us for engaging in our sinful lifestyle. And of course, because it was a punishment for sin, that meant that they, the good, god fearing, cis-het straights, had nothing to fear from the disease! (Yeah, that didn't exactly work out.) Welcome to the 1980s.

This was the height of anti-LGBTQ+ sentiment in the US. But, at the same time, it probably did have positive long term effects. It took the LGBTQ+ community and moved it from Things We Do Not Talk About to something everyone talked about, and in time that led to the gay rights movements of the 1990s and 2000s, which ultimately brought about some measure of equality.

This story is currently in early 1991. AIDS is still going strong, and will be for another five years, as the first truly effective treatment for the disease wouldn't occur until 1995. The Berlin Wall only fell a year and a half ago. The collapse of the Soviet Union won't happen until the end of the year. And even today we STILL haven't dealt with the mess left over from the Civil War.

Noa is part of a quite literally criminalized minority (two, actually, but let's just focus on the lesbian bit), and that's not even going to start to change until the back half of the decade. Fortunately for her the stigma against lesbians was always weaker than the stigma against gays, but it still wasn't a good time.

With all of that in mind, Lorna's reaction is honestly pretty mild. Popular culture would have her believe that Noa is a plaguebearer, a purveyor of sin, a servant of the communists, and a Threat To America. Hiding in her room and just Not Dealing With It is honestly about the best Noa could have hoped for.
 
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As she is an anxiety-riddled teenager I expect that eventually shame will be what primarily keeps Lorna in self-imposed lock-up.
Speaking from experience...
"How did I not notice? Was I supposed to notice? Did I insult her by not noticing? Oh god, did I make any gay jokes in front of her?!? Who else is gay? Did I make any gay jokes in front of them?!? "
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"Wait, how long has it been since I last spoke to them? Is that a normal amount of time? Have I inadvertently convinced them I'm secretly homophobic? "


Popular culture would have her believe that Noa is a plaguebearer, a purveyor of sin, a servant of the communists, and a Threat To America.
Radical 2nd-Wave Feminism is a cultural staple at this point too so throw misandrist and misotheist on the pile.

After all, God is just the Patriarchy's way of gaslighting us into worshiping a hateful Sky Father as opposed to a loving Earth Mother Goddess, as is natural /s.
 
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Radical 2nd-Wave Feminism is a cultural staple at this point too so throw misandrist and misotheist on the pile.

After all, God is just the Patriarchy's way of gaslighting us into worshiping a hateful Sky Father as opposed to a loving Earth Mother Goddess, as is natural /s.
Yup. Though the good news is that Third Wave Feminism is about to start, and lesbian causes got swept up in that movement, which definitely helped make them a bit more mainstream. Shows like Buffy and Babylon 5 are on their way, and you would be amazed at how much tv did to bring about acceptance of LGBTQ+ groups.
 
Magnificently explained, @Firehawk242. I honestly cannot currently think of anything to add to that explanation that could give additional context to the tension-riddled mess that was the late 80s and early 90s United States in regards to the LGBTQ+ community (other than a bit of gentle ribbing for forgetting to mention Xena: Warrior Princess along with Buffy and Babylon 5).
 
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