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what trial is going on in the US right now that is so controversial? did they arrest trump?
the kid who took a gun to a protest and shot dead several protestors is on trial for murder. the judge is making... choices. statements, one could say. airing opinions.
Specifically, it's the Kyle Rittenhouse trial. I am going into spoilers here, and also requesting that there be NO OTHER REPLIES ON THE TOPIC AFTER THIS ONE.

The Rittenhouse trial justifies every single bit of shenanigans, antics, and incompetence on the part of DA Louis Young in this fic.

The trial has been rife with prosecutorial misconduct, defense-side rank incompetence (they put the defendant on the stand!), politicization trying to overtake the actual facts... it's been a shitshow.

Through it all though, one thing is eminently clear: looking at the facts and evidence on the record, Kyle Rittenhouse is not guilty by reason of self-defense.

This conclusion is entirely divorced from politics. My political leanings are screaming to lock Rittenhouse up, throw away the key, use him as an example, and jump off of this case and straight into gun control.

But that's not what happened here.

What happened here, in real life, is exactly what's happened in this first arc of Pound the Table: an ambitious prosecutor saw what looked like a slam-dunk case, did not properly prep and brief his witnesses, did not take the time to fully review all evidence on the record, then proceeded to stumble, fumble, and bumble out of the gate and hand a slam-dunk to defense counsel.

The difference here is that Kyle's attorneys let him testify, which they should never have done, he did not need to testify, there is a very real chance that that choice backfires hard. (And this is in spite of my thinking that Kyle was 1) prepped really really well, and 2) actually knocked his testimony out of the park...)

There will be precedent established with this case. And there shouldn't be. Because this case is such a shitshow that it should not be used for precedent.

My personal opinion of how this needs to end?

Mistrial with prejudice. Makes the case establish zero precedent. It's the only way to prevent the overpoliticization of things from spilling over into causing very real problems.

If you want to reply to this... take it to DMs.
 
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Not sure about the bit with Doom. It feels a little too Reed bashing for my liking.
Honestly, yeah. I can't really imagine Reed ranting and raving at either of his children, and I can't imagine he'd need to use his powers to engage in "stalking" to revoke a custody agreement that was brokered over an act of sorcerous midwifery by an international criminal and infamous totalitarian dictator who must surely be facing sanctions from every country bar Atlantis and Madripoor. The man has invented multiple autonomous robots and teleportation devices – what is he implied to have done, here, stretched around corners to peep on Doctor Doom?

Valeria's reaction does ring true, though; she's generally depicted as a horrid little sociopath. Send her on a playdate with Damian Wayne, see which one makes it out alive.

The main reason the custody agreement would stand is realpolitik; Doom's always going to consider himself to have a claim on Valeria, regardless of the legalities, and Valeria is genuinely fond of her godfather (see: horrid little sociopath). Fighting it in court won't do anything but aggravate and drive them together.
 
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Honestly, yeah. I can't really imagine Reed ranting and raving at either of his children, and I can't imagine he'd need to use his powers to engage in "stalking" to revoke a custody agreement that was brokered over an act of sorcerous midwifery by an international criminal and infamous totalitarian dictator who must surely be facing sanctions from every country bar Atlantis and Madripoor. The man has invented multiple autonomous robots and teleportation devices – what is he implied to have done, here, stretched around corners to peep on Doctor Doom?

Valeria's reaction does ring true, though; she's generally depicted as a horrid little sociopath. Send her on a playdate with Damian Wayne, see which one makes it out alive.

The main reason the custody agreement would stand is realpolitik; Doom's always going to consider himself to have a claim on Valeria, regardless of the legalities, and Valeria is genuinely fond of her godfather (see: horrid little sociopath). Fighting it in court won't do anything but aggravate and drive them together.
Reed is honestly fairly well established at this point as being remarkably overprotective of his children, especially in the more recent comics, which will naturally come to mind when writing fiction set in the universe. The most obvious example would be his use of technology to block his son's "mutant gene" (which isn't actually a mutant gene because there was clearly a war between writers going on there) and stop him from going through any of the portals to Krakatoa. He's more or less a good man (although he's not the best on his team, that being good ol' Ben), but he does have his flaws.

And I can definitely see DOOM just using anything he can to get even the slightest of victories over Richards, because DOOM is obsessive to the nth degree when it comes to Reed, for reasons long, long established.
 
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Reed is honestly fairly well established at this point as being remarkably overprotective of his children, especially in the more recent comics, which will naturally come to mind when writing fiction set in the universe.
Sure, and I don't doubt that he would try to get between Valeria and Doom, because... again, Doom is an international criminal and unrepentant mass-murderer. I just don't read him as someone who'd rant at his awful daughter about all the ways he's trying to do it (now, him doing it privately to Sue, with Valeria snooping and then lying about her sources, I can imagine), and I don't see why/how he'd use his powers to do so. What's he doing, personally sneaking into Castle Doom and stretching his ear under a door?

The most obvious example would be his use of technology to block his son's "mutant gene" (which isn't actually a mutant gene because there was clearly a war between writers going on there) and stop him from going through any of the portals to Krakatoa. He's more or less a good man (although he's not the best on his team, that being good ol' Ben), but he does have his flaws.
Reed: "Are you with the cult?"
Scott: "We're not a cult, we're a post-mortal genetic commune of utopian-"
Reed: "Yup, this is it."
 
Sure, and I don't doubt that he would try to get between Valeria and Doom, because... again, Doom is an international criminal and unrepentant mass-murderer. I just don't read him as someone who'd rant at his awful daughter about all the ways he's trying to do it (now, him doing it privately to Sue, with Valeria snooping and then lying about her sources, I can imagine), and I don't see why/how he'd use his powers to do so. What's he doing, personally sneaking into Castle Doom and stretching his ear under a door?

And let's not forget the time Doom tried to use Val as a sacrifice to demons in the blackest of magics. Because Doom is a horrible shitstain. While Reed is a dumbass and doesn't people well, he's nowhere near as bad as he keeps getting made out to be.
 
its the same issue as high school bullies being hated more than serial killers
people are more likely to hate someone that does bad things that they have experienced than someone who does far worse things that they have only heard about distantly.
lots of people were bullied in school so hate high school bullies.
very few people know the victim of a series killer, so there is not as much personal hatred for them

or in this case Reed has issues that readers have been on the wrong side of before, while Doom's issues are so big and terrible that they are hard to really feel
 
I actually haven't read canon. Summary?

They were college roommates, Reed tried to warn Doom that an experiment he was setting up was going to go wrong, Doom ignored him.

It went wrong, Doom was DISFIGURED (some interpretations it's like a tiny scar) and it's ALL RICHARDS' FAULT because HE MUST HAVE INTERFERED WITH DOOM'S GENIUS PLAN.
 
They were college roommates, Reed tried to warn Doom that an experiment he was setting up was going to go wrong, Doom ignored him.

It went wrong, Doom was DISFIGURED (some interpretations it's like a tiny scar) and it's ALL RICHARDS' FAULT because HE MUST HAVE INTERFERED WITH DOOM'S GENIUS PLAN.

Dooms machine was intended to break into heaven and find his mother's soul. Being the marvel universe, it could have worked (indeed, Reed later made a device with the modifications he'd suggested that worked as intended) but still. Doom never did anything halfway. Which makes it all the more hilarious how in the end he's just a petty, spiteful little shit.
 
Dooms machine was intended to break into heaven and find his mother's soul. Being the marvel universe, it could have worked (indeed, Reed later made a device with the modifications he'd suggested that worked as intended) but still. Doom never did anything halfway. Which makes it all the more hilarious how in the end he's just a petty, spiteful little shit.

What makes this even more hilarious is that magic is one of the few things Doom legitimately has an advantage over Reed in knowledge-wise- Reed, fundamentally, doesn't get magic, while Doom has the skills to be (and has been, in the past) Sorcerer Supreme.

EDIT: That said, iirc he was trying to break into Hell and rescue his mother from there.
 
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