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My Life as a Teenage Juggernaut... (Worm AU x Marvel)

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Kryslin said:
The end result of 40,000 lbs of picratol going off will launch the concrete slab into the air in chunks, along with demolishing the surrounding buildings.
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Umm I think you got your math wrong. Picratol is about as energetic as TNT and Fat Man the nuke dropped on Nagasaki had an estimated yield of 21,000 lbs or 21 kilotons of TNT. Even if the Picractol has decayed to the point that it only has half of the expected yield that is still as powerful as the Fat Man nuke.

EDIT: my math was wrong. Still a huge explosion but not nuke size.
 
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I'm wondering when that beam is going to come back down, and where. I could see it being fired skyward in an eminently cinematic fashion, arcing toward whatever target is funniest.
 
strictpig said:
Umm I think you got your math wrong. Picratol is about as energetic as TNT and Fat Man the nuke dropped on Nagasaki had an estimated yield of 21,000 lbs or 21 kilotons of TNT. Even if the Picractol has decayed to the point that it only has half of the expected yield that is still as powerful as the Fat Man nuke.
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Actually, her math is correct. Yours isn't.

21 Kilotons is not the same as 21,000 lbs

21 KiloTons = 21,000 TONS = 42,000,000 lbs

The way Kryslin caclulated it is accurate. 40K lbs = 20 tons

That's still enough to rattle buildings across the entire city, just from the shockwave being pushed into the ground (since Vista redirected everything else pretty much straight up).

Just as point of comparison, the cement truck explosion engineered by MythBusters used about 5000 lbs (2.5 Tons) of ANFO. The shockwave was seen and felt at least 1.5 miles away (where the main crew was filming). Multiply that amount of explosives times eight for the equivalent of what Kryslin says was buried in the foundation of that building.

Big Bada Boom.


Kinsfire said:
I'm wondering when that beam is going to come back down, and where. I could see it being fired skyward in an eminently cinematic fashion, arcing toward whatever target is funniest.
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Seeing it come down directly on top of Juggernaut, and leaving a head shaped impression in it would be just about perfect.


(gah - two edits in under 5min - tragic I tell ya, just tragic)
 
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strictpig said:
Umm I think you got your math wrong. Picratol is about as energetic as TNT and Fat Man the nuke dropped on Nagasaki had an estimated yield of 21,000 lbs or 21 kilotons of TNT. Even if the Picractol has decayed to the point that it only has half of the expected yield that is still as powerful as the Fat Man nuke.
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It's worse than that.

[Pedantic Hat ON]

A kiloton of TNT is the amount of energy released in the detonation of 1,000 metric tons of TNT
A metric ton is 1000 Kg or 2205 Lbs
So 21 Kiloton explosion = 46,296,600 Lbs of TNT

[Pedantic Hat OFF]

(Ninjaed... edit) ...not fast enough

bye for now.
 
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Ace Dreamer said:
Could be his twin brother, Harry? What happens if one of identical twins takes a vial? Shards allegedly rely on DNA to check they're targetting the right host... Would the other twin lack the Corona Gemma???
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Twins still require both to undergo a Trigger for both to have powers, though they will likely have very similar powers(such as Fenja and Menja). That's how Bonesaw made the Slaughterhouse 9000. Where Shard's get really confused is when identical twins are touching during a Trigger, leaving at the end one body with multiple minds in it, as the Shard couldn't really tell the difference between two people touching and one person so heavily injured they needed to have their body "fixed" to save the host's life. I personally like the idea that Triggers and a lot of the stupid stuff Shards do in canon would have been refined by Eden once she was done configuring herself.
 
Oooo, strategically skewering Coil's underground base at just the right angle to NOT damage the building itself. Doesn't even need to take out Coil, just scare the everlivin daylights out of him.

Alas, with Vista on the job, everything *should* stay well contained.
 
Barghest Blue said:
They probably don't read the thread, at least not before they post, and maybe not after either
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Reading any Author posts, afore you post yourself, is priority. You don't have the context, otherwise.

Yeah, your point may get gazumped, but, thems the breaks. And, if you made your point in a sufficiently twisted way, it may still be worth reading! :)
 
Coil is essentially Amanda Waller for a Suicide Squad of parahuman assets, or General Ross for the Thunderbolts, in this continuum. So the pointy support beam hitting Coil's base wouldn't be as funny as if it manages to hit:
+ Oni Lee, especially if smacking the original while he's taunting someone else like Miss Militia.
+ Within a few feet of Emma as she's being transported.
+ Kaiser's penthouse, causing him to consider if the heavens are instituting a running joke. (Signs point to yes?)
+ Uber and L33t's lair, neatly demolishing his newest invention or causing it to run amok. If he was going Super Mario then a Bowser or Peach robot malfunctioning could be funny.
+ Smacking an Endbringer in the head. Or, failing that, Eidolon.
Sorry, tired. 12hr shift.
Zephron is really getting around lately, isn't he?
 
I see it's about what I figured. Not a single villain involved. Just some lacking data about things that should not have been forgotten. Then again trust the military to build a building over several thousand pounds of high explosives and manage to forget they did so.

Though in my personal opinion, whoever thought it was a good idea to put a building over what was essentially a bomb to begin with needs to have their head examined. Thought given it was done in the ww2 era they're likely not around to raise the issue with anymore anyways.

At least for Taylor the most she has to deal with is being startled/shocked at the sudden kaboom. Well that and now getting first hand experience with the paperwork that's involved in such incidents.

I do feel a bit more concerned about Vista. It's one thing to think you understand that your new teammate is virtually indestructible. It's quite another to watch a bomb detonate point blank in that teammate's face and watch her shrug it off.
 
Wyrd said:
Twins still require both to undergo a Trigger for both to have powers, though they will likely have very similar powers(such as Fenja and Menja). That's how Bonesaw made the Slaughterhouse 9000. Where Shard's get really confused is when identical twins are touching during a Trigger, leaving at the end one body with multiple minds in it, as the Shard couldn't really tell the difference between two people touching and one person so heavily injured they needed to have their body "fixed" to save the host's life. I personally like the idea that Triggers and a lot of the stupid stuff Shards do in canon would have been refined by Eden once she was done configuring herself.
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Yes, but that is (natural) Triggers. The Thinker shards that are connected to by vials are... a lot more brain-dead (lack the support of the (full) Thinker's network to error-fix?). There's some network, as they couldn't work as power-providing shards, in quite a few cases, otherwise, but I think we can assume 'network & configuration management' is lacking.

You don't even need a Corona Pollentia (have a shard watching you for potential trigger conditions) for a vial to work on you. The pseudo-fluids harvested from the Flesh Garden make the shard-host link (as happened, naturally, to Fortuna, giving us Contessa - yeah, she got lucky, keeping her human appearance).

Drinking a vial implies info flowing the other way, from host to shard (a DNA scan, shard config params, at least). Also, shard makes the host grow a full Corona set-up, else a brain scan could tell vial from natural hosts.

If one of a pair of twins is connected, could a brain-dead-ish shard also connect the other? - that was my question.
(Shards want [DATA], does twins (triplets, etc.) just mean more [DATA]?)
 
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Considering the usual response to finding unexploded WWII ordnance in Europe is to detonate in place, it's almost surprising they didn't just clear the area and hit the compromised explosives with an artillery shell back when this first happened. Then again, they might have had a decent reason not to.

Putting a building over it was a less then ideal move, though...
 
Jacen1 said:
Considering the usual response to finding unexploded WWII ordnance in Europe is to detonate in place, it's almost surprising they didn't just clear the area and hit the compromised explosives with an artillery shell back when this first happened. Then again, they might have had a decent reason not to.

Putting a building over it was a less then ideal move, though...
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The difference here is that when the shells were damaged, the sensible thing would've been to transport them out to a quarry and the bomb crew spend a week detonating them a few at a time. The detonating in place is because the explosives are so unstable due to age and the environment they were in that trying to move them could set them off.
INTERESTING FACT - The SS Richard Montgomery, a World War II American Liberty cargo ship, is a shipwreck in the Thames Estuary that is still carrying around 1,400 tons of explosive.
(Nore sandbank, near Sheerness, Kent)
The government currently plans to remove the masts which stick out of the water before they fall over, land on the explosives and set it off.
 
Jacen1 said:
Putting a building over it was a less then ideal move, though...
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One reason for the building was to protect the concrete cover from the environment, and people wanting to do things like lay pipes?

A university systems admin once told me how he was looking out the window of the top floor of the computing building, to see a contractor lift a cable from underground, and sever it, to 'see what it was' (apparently common practice for electrical cables) - it was the primary university fiber optic campus-wide network cable...
 
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