Boodlesnoop
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Was what Fanriel did to the Bloodfather considered a divine miracle in the same vein as what human priest use? Would any of the Sea Guard sense it?
Mercenary Mage Quest: Asur Dogs of War in Warhammer Fantasy
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[X] Cast Ygethmor's Firey Blizzard at the Livgard then teleport to the shamans.
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[X] Summon as many Lesser Ghur Elementals as you can without it becoming tiresome, order them to protect the lightfangs, Cast Ygethmor's Fiery Blizzard at the Livgard, and then join the knights and attempt to punch through to the Shamans, leaving the Men-at-arms and Swordmasters to deal with the Livgard
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[X] Cast Ygethmor's Firey Blizzard at the Livgard then teleport to the shamans.
Behold! The leggendary Loremaster of Hoeth and its immense knowledge!
This was a pretty epic moment, but holy shit if Fanriel dosen't need to learn some humility and to appreciate more humans. That attitude of hers could be her doom if she meets a Grail Knight and underestimates him because "he is just a human".
[X] Cast Ygethmor's Firey Blizzard at the Livgard, summon as many Lesser Ghur Elementals as you can and then join the knights and attempt to punch through to the Shamans, leaving the Men-at-arms and Swordmasters to deal with the Livgard.
I have seen the current most popular Plan and i have to ask:
HAVE YOU ALL GONE INSANE?!
Teleporting behind the enemy lines means begin left without any kind of backup while surrounded by enemies, its ridicolusy dangerous for very little gain, especialy since we don't know were the Slaaneshi warriors are.
If our troops don't reach us fast, we are absolutely screwed. Even Fanriel can't single handedly defeat 400+ blessed Norscan warriors and two Shamans.
Let's put it this way: we teleport in while our troops engage the Norscans. Then the Slaaneshi attack from behind and now our troops are stuck fighting on two fronts, unable to advance towards us while we are isolated.
We should remain with the bulk of the troops and support them with our magic, fighting side by side with the Swordmasters. We are the leader, not the champion who must charge were the fighting is hardest. This stunt could cost the entire mission dearly.
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[X] Cast Ygethmor's Firey Blizzard at the Livgard, summon as many Lesser Ghur Elementals as you can and then join the knights and attempt to punch through to the Shamans, leaving the Men-at-arms and Swordmasters to deal with the Livgard.
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Slaaneshi warriors could be anywhere else in the settlement, they do have a lot of targets. And we wouldn't be without backup. Everyone else will be in the fray with the goons.
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We would be with backup If Everything Goes As Planned. It is, however, very easy to imagine ways in which things do not goes a planned that leave Fanriel without backup. Some of them only leave her without backup For A Little Bit Of Time, but that's still more time not Not Teleporting Away From Her Current Backup.
The point of Plan Teleport is to disrupt the ritual and deny the Norscans magical support, while hoping (with reason) we can engage the shamans without bodyguards. That said, there is a risk that the Norscans could peel off from the back line to engage Fanriel.
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I'll note that, after dealing with the Tzeentchian Shaman, she could just teleport back if the situation looks untenable. Admittedly, doing that before dealing with the Tzeentchian shaman is much less of a good plan.
True, and i have taken into account that they could be fighting somebody else like the Coinshields or Pale Spirits.
But i don't think taking this for granted is a wise idea, better to be cautious than expose ourselves based on assumptions.
If everything goes ABSOLUTELY and PERFECTLY according to the Plan. And nothing has until now. I don't feel like taking chances while fighting the servants of the Architect of Fate.
The teleporting Plan is based too much on luck, with no Plan B if something goes wrong. And leaves us incredibly vulnerable.
Our troops are already greatly outnumbered, the Livgard can keep them busy and gang up on us at the same time.
Fanriel is not a Battle Mage, she can't wipe out entire regiments with a single spell. She absolutely needs the protection of her Swordmasters to survive this odds.
This is basing our Plan too much on incredibly lucky consecutive rolls, and while all Plans are of course based on good rolls, this Plan relies too much on them compared to other options.
We are taking a risk too big compared to the potential rewards.
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[X] Cast Ygethmor's Firey Blizzard at the Livgard, summon as many Lesser Ghur Elementals as you can and then join the knights and attempt to punch through to the Shamans, leaving the Men-at-arms and Swordmasters to deal with the Livgard.
P.s. Shouldn't we give orders to the troops? It seems the most important thing to me actually. The enemies have the dark blessing of their respective divinities, we can use that knowledge.
- The men at arms should start out using the crossbows and shoot down the Nurglite guard before they charge in and bring their devastating miasma.
- The swordmasters should be the main melee reserve for when the (hopefully weakened) Nurglite charge hits home. They are Elves so they're better able to dodge the plague-rotten weapons and more resistant to contamination. They also have more awareness to spot any Slaaneshi if we are unlucky and they ambush us.
- Fanriel should charge with the Knights and punch through the Tzeechians.
In which case, we are probably better off not summoning the elementals, to keep some magic in reserve to dispel the inevitable storm of Chaos magic that will come at us.
We already know that the two bands will not mix their ranks because they despise each other.
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In the defence of Khorne, that power seems fine to me.
If I was designing on-hand evocations (as opposed to real miracles) of a deity of both honourable duels and protection from sorcery, I would absolutely include a power that strips someone of their supernatural advantages, silences their magical equipment, and banishes magical constructs one could hide behind.
….mind, I'd also make that miracle omnidirectional, and include separate ones that involve addressing material advantages (negate superior armour or a steed), ones to protect duellists from dishonourable interventions, and even one to heal and refresh both my own and the enemy, so they can both fight at peak strength.
If I really believed in fair and honest battle, I would desire duels to be decided by skill and strength and willpower alone, and not wealth or circumstance or arcane gifts literally inaccessible to most.
….Ultimately, Khorne doesn't do most of that (and more the shame). However, this power seems quite justified, from the perspective of the duel. The weak can become strong, the clumsy swift, the craven brave- but the vast, vast majority of humans fundamentally cannot use magic. Where is the parity or honour in that?
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The format looks good, if more people use it i will use it too. I would prefer not dispersing the vote too much.
I am pretty sure they will do this automaticaly without the need to be ordered. Its a really basic strategy.
We are outnumbered almost 2:1, i don't think we can keep anybody in reserve. The Swordmasters will be forced to fight regardless.
I don't think magic is a limited resource there, this isn't Total War Warhammer.
And we absolutely need the Elementals, we are outnumbered and the Elementals will boost our numbers. That is kind of the entire reason we have them in the first place, to use them as reinforcments when no other troops are avaible.
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I changed my vote format back to yours, otherwise it does not count the 2nd part.
Also, we are losing 3 to 6 o.o. People, we can't teleport in alone with no backup and "just roll the dice" that we can stealth back or be bailed out. If it goes as well as the learning rolls, it will be an epic fail that might have no recovery.
Also, we are losing 3 to 6 o.o. People, we can't teleport in alone with no backup and "just roll the dice" that we can stealth back or be bailed out. If it goes as well as the learning rolls, it will be an epic fail that might have no recovery.
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I feel the need to point out that us being in the battle proper will definitely help with morale. The ulric worshipers just saw us literally blow up a khorneate skull and make a khorne priest back away in fear with the power of faith alone. We managed to impress their leader to the point where he actually promised to think about all this on his way back instead of calling everyone but him and his buds a pussy and gesturing to his dick like a proper wolfpilled ulrichad. If we sit back and do magic with the crossbows or if we fuck off to kill some tzeentches we won't really benefit from this nearly as much.
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[X] Cast Ygethmor's Firey Blizzard at the Livgard, summon as many Lesser Ghur Elementals as you can and then join the knights and attempt to punch through to the Shamans, leaving the Men-at-arms and Swordmasters to deal with the Livgard.
Mopman43
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Wrong thread.
It would be pretty embarassing if Fanriel fails the roll catastrophicaly and faceplants in front of everyone.
Its pretty strange for the thread to vote a plan so reckless, until now they voted in a pretty cautious manner. And its especialy out of character for some people, based on the Plans they voted or created until now.
Wrong Quest buddy, but i am interested in what Quest you were supposed to vote for. Can you give me a link?
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The Blood Runs Cold (Warhammer Fantasy Vampire Pirate Quest)
Amusingly, I almost posted my vote from this quest there just a bit ago
Mopman43
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Should we be summoning elementals before the blizzard?
They don't know we're here, right? So we should be able to get more if we don't alert them with the blizzard first.
Unless the worry is that would take too much time and we need to disrupt the ritual?
They don't know we're here, right? So we should be able to get more if we don't alert them with the blizzard first.
Unless the worry is that would take too much time and we need to disrupt the ritual?
Thanks, i will check it out.
I think we are close enough that casting any significant spell would be noted by their Witchsight. Only cantrips would be invisibile, hidden by the background of the Winds of Magic.
So in the end is kind of irrelevant wich of the spells we cast first, you could argue that if we start summoning the Elementals first we will have more Elementals but lack the time to cast the blizzard, or that casting the blizzard first would give us less time to summon Elementals. Either way the discussion becomes too complicated and we lose ourselves in a bottomless rabbit hole.
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[X] Cast Ygethmor's Firey Blizzard at the Livgard, summon as many Lesser Ghur Elementals as you can and then join the knights and attempt to punch through to the Shamans, leaving the Men-at-arms and Swordmasters to deal with the Livgard.
Boodlesnoop
Never entirely sure what I'm doing
Changed my vote, the Pentagram makes too good a point.
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