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Mercenary Mage Quest: Asur Dogs of War in Warhammer Fantasy

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Netos said:
I must vote for all the plans that are not the leading one. We are making Fanriel into a Werewolf Weredeer!
Battle form that is a massive fighter, scares people and would be seen as a monster? Check. Talking with spirits and fighting to save them? Check. Being outraged at offenses made to nature? Check.
Withholding information and solving leadership challenges by going into a RAGE? Also check.
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Embrace the furry, Netos. The Asrai practically worship a beastmen in denial like Orion. We're mostly just following his lead here.
 
[X] Be clear with the priest that you will not stand for his slander against yourself. Urskoy volunteered himself and his men to the most dangerous role in the initial assault and he and his men proved their valor once again when the knights charged with you to stop the sacrifices being made by his shamans while the men at arms stayed to protect your rear alongside your swordmasters. The mission was a success with the Grim Eyes shamans dead, their Jarl dead and their tribe wiped out and you personally acted to save the life of the surviving knight you could. If the priest is going to call for your dismissal over the blood price paid by the people who valiantly volunteered for all of the most dangerous roles, many of whom you and the Lightfangs took part in as well, in a victorious battle against Chaos then he should at least not shame the memory of the courage displayed by Urskoy and his men by slinking away to complain to the count but face you in a duel for it or otherwise get in line.

BY HOETH, WE SHALL SUPLEX THIS ULRICAN!
 
Netos said:
I must vote for all the plans that are not the leading one. We are making Fanriel into a Werewolf Weredeer!
Battle form that is a massive fighter, scares people and would be seen as a monster? Check. Talking with spirits and fighting to save them? Check. Being outraged at offenses made to nature? Check.
Withholding information and solving leadership challenges by going into a RAGE? Also check.
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Hey now, Elvish Pride is independent of any were-creaturehood, I shall have you know. Just look at Aramil!
 
I wonder what Aramil would think of who should have the leadership position. Probably he would consider it beneath him. But you never know
 
On the plus side the count has been spending time with Aramil for awhile, so the idea of his resident high elves having an honour duel when they feel they've been slighted probably isn't new to him. In that case maybe he'll get pissed at the priest for aggravating us, as a duel would be the predictable outcome of such an act.
 
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    • Scheduled vote count started by Blackout on Nov 23, 2024 at 2:17 PM, finished with 136 posts and 32 votes.
    • [X] Be clear with the priest that you will not stand for his slander against yourself. Urskoy volunteered himself and his men to the most dangerous role in the initial assault and he and his men proved their valor once again when the knights charged with you to stop the sacrifices being made by his shamans while the men at arms stayed to protect your rear alongside your swordmasters. The mission was a success with the Grim Eyes shamans dead, their Jarl dead and their tribe wiped out and you personally acted to save the life of the surviving knight you could. If the priest is going to call for your dismissal over the blood price paid by the people who valiantly volunteered for all of the most dangerous roles, many of whom you and the Lightfangs took part in as well, in a victorious battle against Chaos then he should at least not shame the memory of the courage displayed by Urskoy and his men by slinking away to complain to the count but face you in a duel for it or otherwise get in line.
      [X] Write In: The Whole Deal
      -[X] Give a tactical assessment of the difficulties involved in mounting an assault on Jaarpen. The defenses, the terrain, the dangers faced by the first wave, demonstrating your Martial accumen in the process.
      -[X] Mention, that Urskoy and his men volunteered out of their own free will for the counter-raid and for all the most dangerous jobs.
      -[X] Say about their role in the vanguard, for which they volunteered as well, during the landing and that they later went with us up the hill, since they were the best troops available at the time, that could be expected to fight well against Chaos sorcerers and their lackeys, that we expected to find there.
      -[X] Mention, that Urskoy agreed to put his men under our command for this job after our show of strength, which we can repeat, should it become necessary.
      -[X] Tell the priest of the entire journey, the fight with the Khornate berserkers, of the magnificent stand of the Men-At-Arms, that fought with the Lightfangs side by side, sharing all of our perils, tying down whatever massive enemy forces they could.
      -[X] The charge she and Urskoy's knights performed against the hordes of mutated Marauders to get to their shamans in order to stop foul rituals with human sacrifices present (Urskoy himself said, that it must be stopped for Ulric commands it).
      -[X] The sacrifice of the Knights, that they pinned down whatever Marauders they could, giving Fanriel a fighting chance to reach the shamans and stop the whole thing.
      -[X] The risks she took and that she succeeded at great peril to her soul, honouring their sacrifice.
      -[X] The saving and healing of the single knight, that survived.
      -[X] Urskoy and his men died as heroes while fighting against the Great Enemy and their deaths had meaning. We were there, we saw it and we shared in their perils.
      -[X]The Norscan leader was slain in single combat by our second before the whole army, while Jaarpen was reduced to a smoldering ruin, the Grim Eyes' power broken beyond repair, many slaves from Jaarpen were saved and brought back home.
      -[X] Be clear that the White Wolves' casualties were by no means caused by you thinking lightly of their lives, but out of them bravely taking the most dangerous role in an already dangerous mission.
      -[X] Conclude, that we need the priest and his men, for their faithful are going to battle the Great Enemy once more and will require their aid. Their lawful liege instructed them to provide it under our leadership, for is he not their temporal ruler and commander?
      [X] Write In: The Whole Deal
      [X] Write In: Domesticating the wolf
      -[X] Affirm that he's right to be angry and apologize profusely... for being too busy to pay proper respect to the sacrifice/power/righteousness of the Knights of the White Wolf.
      -[X] Give a rundown on Jaarpen. Focus on the following facts:
      -[X] Swear on the gods (maybe even Ulric?) that this is all true.
      -[X] Beat your breast and swear on the gods that you would've gladly sacrificed your own life for the cause that Urskoy died for (if true, o.w. say something true that's suitably momentous regarding sacrifice).
      -[X] Tell him you understand his concerns and will give full information on the plans for the assault. You will give any questions/concerns/input he has the utmost attention and consideration. You will offer to let him be your second in this assault.
      -[X] Tell him again you understand his concerns on the safety of the Ulricans. You had wanted to rely on the proven qualities of the Ulricans again, but their safety came first. The Knights of White Wolf have taken grievous losses and even the followers of Ulric must take into account self preservation.
      -[X] Say something on the lines of: You do whatever it is you and Ulric will, but my gods demand that I act. I will muster the elven troops and any other available troops (can we also claim to be able to mobilize the butchers or other ogres?) and lead their march on this atrocity. Say something like unless there's more to discuss, I need to rest/plan/make peace with my gods/pray then turn and walk away/duck back into your tent.
      [X] Give a tactical assessment of the difficulties involved in mounting an assault on Jaarpen. The defenses, the terrain, the dangers faced by the first wave, demonstrating your Martial accumen in the process. Point out then that even with those dangers, and that despite that as volunters the White Wolves didn't have to even be on this mission at all, Urskoy insisted that he and his men act as the vanguard, despite the extremely dangerous nature of the role, speaking well of their bravery both during the initial assault and during the entire mission. Point out to the dangers the Lightfangs and Fanriel themselves faced during the battle. Many of the Lightfangs fought back to back with the Ulrican men at arms, while your own second killed the leader of the Grim Eyes in single combat. Note that you yourself went deep into the enemy lines in order to rescue the captives and provided healing to the surviving knight when you saw him. Be clear that the White Wolves' casualties were by no means caused by you thinking lightly of their lives, but out of them bravely taking the most dangerous role in an already dangerous mission, in the process enabling the rescue of captives and the breaking of the Grim Eyes as a power for ages to come, ensuring that the White Wolves' lives were not lost in vain.
      [X] Be clear with the priest that you will not stand for his slander against yourself. Urskoy volunteered himself and his men to the most dangerous role in the initial assault and he and his men proved their valor once again when the knights charged with you to stop the sacrifices being made by his shamans while the men at arms stayed to protect your rear alongside your swordmasters. The mission was a success with the Grim Eyes shamans dead, their Jarl dead and their tribe wiped out and you personally acted to save the life of the surviving knight you could. If the priest is going to refuse the call to arms or call for your dismissal over the blood price paid by the people who valiantly volunteered for all of the most dangerous roles, many of whom you and the Lightfangs took part in as well, in a victorious battle against Chaos, doing so in violation of the decree of his secular liege, who deemed you competent for the role, then he should at least not shame the memory of the courage displayed by Urskoy and his men with his insubordination, but face you in a duel for it or otherwise get in line.
      [X] Give a tactical assessment of the difficulties involved in mounting an assault on Jaarpen. The defenses, the terrain, the dangers faced by the first wave, demonstrating your Martial accumen in the process. Point out then that even with those dangers, and that despite that as volunters the White Wolves didn't have to even be on this mission at all, Urskoy insisted that he and his men act as the vanguard, despite the extremely dangerous nature of the role, speaking well of their bravery both during the initial assault and during the entire mission. Point out to the dangers the Lightfangs and Fanriel themselves faced during the battle. Many of the Lightfangs fought back to back with the Ulrican men at arms, while your own second killed the leader of the Grim Eyes in single combat. Note that you yourself went deep into the enemy lines in order to rescue the captives and provided healing to the surviving knight when you saw him. Be clear that the White Wolves' casualties were by no means caused by you thinking lightly of their lives, but out of them bravely taking the most dangerous role in an already dangerous mission, in the process enabling the rescue of captives and the breaking of the Grim Eyes as a power for ages to come, ensuring that the White Wolves' lives were not lost in vain.
      -[X] Finally if the Ulrican priest remains unconvinced point to him that he's welcome to question the men the elector count put under our command during the foraging mission, where we obtained valuable intelligence while our forces suffered no casualties, about our command skills and our valour, and that if even after that he remains he's unconvinced of either he's welcome to come with us to the count so that we can both argue our cases while the priest explains why his assessment of our capabilities should outweigh the count's own.
      [X] Imperious' wall of text.
      [X] Write In: Domesticating the wolf
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    • I was thinking, when we finnaly manage to kill a big monster, we should skin it and make a cloak with its pelt.

    Beside begin cool, it would help us gaining a reputation and the respect of potential employers or allies.

    Especialy of Ulricans, wich are basicaly everywere in the regions of the Old World we are operating.
     
    Blackout said:
    Nah, that's the sort of theme you'd use for two elven Princes that have been bitter rivals for centuries meeting at dawn to resolve their differences once and for all, but it doesn't really capture the, ah, essence of the Ulrican duelling tradition.
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    It's a well established fact, that barbarians like Baroque (complete with headbanging wolf). :V
     
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    Blackout said:
    Nah, that's the sort of theme you'd use for two elven Princes that have been bitter rivals for centuries meeting at dawn to resolve their differences once and for all, but it doesn't really capture the, ah, essence of the Ulrican duelling tradition.
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    Fanriel can just kick him in the balls with Amazon Elf strength and make him speak whining puppy noises, unworthy of Ulric.

    Like Grimgor Ironhide did to Archaon meme joke reference.
     
    We can always just split in the middle and have Fanriel slash him in the groin like Dorial did to the Jarl? We're literally told that Dorial cut him in half from groin to head. Why are we going all the way to distant Grimgor instead?

    And yes, the detail that Dorial finished a Chaos champion with a nutshot is going in the banner.
     
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    Warmachine375 said:
    That's why I said "meme joke reference".

    And nah, kicking him in the balls is more humiliating. You get punched or headbutt to the face? That's manly for an Ulrican. But a kick to the nuts? Nope.
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    Headbutting someone hard enough that they fall down while you stay standing is way more impressive than just aiming a kick a bit above their knees.
     
    shepsquared said:
    Headbutting someone hard enough that they fall down while you stay standing is way more impressive than just aiming a kick a bit above their knees.
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    That's still manly for an Ulrican. To drive home that he's really beneath Fanriel who towers him like an Amazon Elf she is, a kick to the balls will suffice.

    And with everyone as witness, no one is gonna live it down on him being kicked in the nuts.
     
    Warmachine375 said:
    Please, Fanriel is a formidable Loremaster of her own right and one of Aenarion's Bloodline plus she can transform with her beast form if she wanted to. What can one angry puppy of Ulric can do to her?
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    I mean, the average knight in the Empire has prowess 20. Urskoy had prowess 22. This guy commands a bunch of inner circle knights, who at a guess I'd assume have prowess 25 as particularly elite knights, and as someone even higher on the totem pole whom Fanriel describes as the broadest man she'd ever laid eyes on I'd expect him to have prowess in the high twenties, being basically our equal give or take a point or two.

    In terms of equipment I'd be inclined to give us a considerable edge. He seems to be wielding mundane axes and a magical suit of armor a long with a giant wolf pelt. So weapon wise we're considerably ahead, and I'd imagine that armor wise we're moderately ahead.

    The big question mark is supernatural powers. We're a mage, but our spell line doesn't count many of the sort of buff spells that you'd want for something like a duel. In contrast we know the warrior priests here can cast miracles. He might be able to pull ahead of us in that regard.

    So dividing the parameters that seem like they should affect chances in a duel I'd say the situation seems to be:

    Prowess score: Even
    Equipment: Advantage Fanriel
    Supernatural powers: Ambiguous, inclined to give the advantage to the priest.

    So yeah, I can see him being basically our equal in a fight, in the sense that his miracles could cancel out our advantage from superior equipment.
     
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    Imperious said:
    So yeah, I can see him being basically our equal in a fight, in the sense that his miracles could cancel out our advantage from superior equipment.
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    And then Fanriel will kick him in the balls, cancelling out his advantage and humiliate him in front of everyone laughing at the puppy of Ulric. She could have flexed her Asur superiority but chose to give him an undignified nutshot instead.

    So not manly for an Ulrican.
     
    A nut kick sounds like a good way to get a broken leg or knee. Not a very smart move. Unless you have de facto complete superiority on the opponent.
    Which we most emphatically do not have here. Period. Don't anger the Dice Godz, plz :tongue:
     
    Yeah the dice gods could screw fanriel over.
    I wonder what others will think of fanriel, when she goes literal beast mode and rip her enemies to shred?
     
    FallenDawn said:
    Yeah the dice gods could screw fanriel over.
    I wonder what others will think of fanriel, when she goes literal beast mode and rip her enemies to shred?
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    If its elves probably not care much. Even if they don't recognize us as blessed by Kurnous Beastshape is a pretty standard Ghur spell. Elven furries might like us a lot in that case though.

    If its humans, particularly Imperials, odds are good that they'll want to have us killed for being a Chaos mutated Beastman.
     
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