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Mammoth Apostate vs the World 1: "Lost in the Mist"

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I think if it can be argued to Masserone that helping Georgetown helped Savannah he'd bite. He's apparently reaping a ton from good association with the Council. Maybe even have the organized criminals lean on the more chaotic violent criminal elements prevalent atm in Georgetown. Non-violent crime will happen in even the best areas but if both the organized crime and the cops (with military backup as needed) lean hard on violent offenders rape, murder, armed robbery then it makes those crimes less profitable and with a dubious sustainability

Bussing low skilled employees in to the menial jobs the existing Tybee resorts provide is not a terribly long commute, avoids the rampant unemployment they might suffer w/o those jobs no one will build good wage jobs in a crime slum. However, if we have him help break the cycle of exploitment by allowing them to advance out of the menial jobs if their intelligence and desire for betterment exists.

Maybe get him to open some slots in middle management by insuring the resorts positions are actually merit based. Gentrification of some of the Georgetown slums so the new middle management can bring wealth and economic stimulus back to their old neighborhoods. With increased policing, tough enforcement on violence, and doing some 'real' housing options instead to ease the overcrowding.

Build some new 'designer' lower income neighborhoods Maybe with our "golden boy" architect (?Nathaniel Gulf? I think was his name) we've under utilized him, that actually are well lit and street layouts give emergency service (Police, Fire, EMS) easier layout as they are designed so quick response is the norm in Georgetown. Install equipment like the Boomerang gunshot sensors, 911 kiosks, and design it with the idea of cheap easy replacement from vandals is inherent in the designs. Improve education and offer good students internships that become upper level jobs, give tax breaks to businesses willing to expand into the area to enjoy the upped police presence, etc.

Both Highwind and KnightDisciple have good points. I just wanted to add my 2 cents.

Edit: the criminal element in Savannah proper have learned to play nice and self police the worst elements, maybe they can teach Georgetown crooks to behave or GTFO.
 
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Neatness, going on up in here. ;)

Btw, both votes called for are locked. (engineer names & train proposal)

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Tomorrow is the trips beginning, we'll know shortly if I'll be internet available or not. Behave and don't declare a purge or anything too drastic in my absence.
 
Smithsguild said:
Tomorrow is the trips beginning, we'll know shortly if I'll be internet available or not. Behave and don't declare a purge or anything too drastic in my absence.
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I'll try to resist the urge to send in our army on a massive COIN Op to arrest or terminate every criminal element on Georgetown. :V

We have less drastic option on the table, anyway.

BadKatt85 said:
I think if it can be argued to Masserone that helping Georgetown helped Savannah he'd bite. He's apparently reaping a ton from good association with the Council. Maybe even have the organized criminals lean on the more chaotic violent criminal elements prevalent atm in Georgetown. Non-violent crime will happen in even the best areas but if both the organized crime and the cops (with military backup as needed) lean hard on violent offenders rape, murder, armed robbery then it makes those crimes less profitable and with a dubious sustainability

Bussing low skilled employees in to the menial jobs the existing Tybee resorts provide is not a terribly long commute, avoids the rampant unemployment they might suffer w/o those jobs no one will build good wage jobs in a crime slum. However, if we have him help break the cycle of exploitment by allowing them to advance out of the menial jobs if their intelligence and desire for betterment exists.

Maybe get him to open some slots in middle management by insuring the resorts positions are actually merit based. Gentrification of some of the Georgetown slums so the new middle management can bring wealth and economic stimulus back to their old neighborhoods. With increased policing, tough enforcement on violence, and doing some 'real' housing options instead to ease the overcrowding.

Build some new 'designer' lower income neighborhoods Maybe with our "golden boy" architect (?Nathaniel Gulf? I think was his name) we've under utilized him, that actually are well lit and street layouts give emergency service (Police, Fire, EMS) easier layout as they are designed so quick response is the norm in Georgetown. Install equipment like the Boomerang gunshot sensors, 911 kiosks, and design it with the idea of cheap easy replacement from vandals is inherent in the designs. Improve education and offer good students internships that become upper level jobs, give tax breaks to businesses willing to expand into the area to enjoy the upped police presence, etc.

Both Highwind and KnightDisciple have good points. I just wanted to add my 2 cents.

Edit: the criminal element in Savannah proper have learned to play nice and self police the worst elements, maybe they can teach Georgetown crooks to behave or GTFO.
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Leaning on Masserone to have him help reduce the worst of the criminal element seems like one of our best options. Much as I hate organized crime of any sort his organization seems to be at least smart enough to know that a certain level of order and a clean community is good for everyone's business. If we can... incentivize, him and his men to be closer to the cleaner end of the modern Yakuza (that is, semi-legitimate and working with the less vile criminal businesses like smuggling, gambling, the sex trade, and politics) than the gangs and cartels, he might just be what we need to keep the criminal elements under control in these Apocalyptic times.

I don't like having any crime at all, and given the chance I'd have them all arrested and put on trial, but I know very well that wiping out crime completely is impossible without measures I'm violently opposed to and if I had to choose what sorts of crime I'd find in my community I'd much rather have the "water trade" than drug trafficking, executions and worse.

We know Masserone is a crook, and he knows we know he's a crook, so I feel inclined to invite him for a talk and lay out our terms as cleanly and openly as possible, but I also know better than doing that. Another option would be to have Homeland Security embrace their inner CIA and have them hash out the deal with the Masserone mafia, but that runs the risk of them deciding to actually become the memetic CIA so soon after we brought them to heel for using their slush fund without authorization. Having them become a rogue government agency is the absolute last thing I want.
 
On the Punitive/Distraction attack on Charleston:

We'll need more F-15E Strike Eagles and MQ-1C Grey Eagle UAVs, the former for their Ground-Attack capabilities and speed, and the latter for their AGM-122 Sidearm Anti-Radiation missiles. And since we'll be using the MQ-1Cs we'll also need more Apache helocopters to control them.

The Strike Eagles cost 850R, while the Apaches cost 975R each, and the Grey Eagles cost 350R apiece. We can build a sizeable air force with these, though I'll need to confirm how many MQ-1Cs a single Apache can control by itself with @Smithsguild before I can make calculate the best way to spend our Resources.
 
Highwind said:
I'll need to confirm how many MQ-1Cs a single Apache can control by itself with @Smithsguild before I can make calculate the best way to spend our Resources.
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In this AU, I'm setting the limit at two per Apache which allows for an astounding amount of firepower, that can dominate by 1 vehicle presenting 3 'faces' in a dogfight situation. I gave you an initial pair, with 1 spare to go with your Longbow. (IRL, I haven't a clue. there are some matters about bleeding edge mil-tech I don't dig too deep about, lest I draw the eyes of the ABBREVIATIONS :p ; you know NSA, CIA, etc..)
 
RE: military strike / rescue force

Your jumphawk fleet is going to remain a limiting factor on insertion/extraction at speed and exactly what all you can bring, and you'll need boots on the ground snuck into Bracer's location to clear rubble -long- before you bring in the jumphawks. (Luckily you have the BlackHawks, and the Outrider s pathfinder (once repaired), The Chinook would have been a major asset logistically for stealth insertion.)
 
Actually, that shortfall of jumphawks is probably -my- fault. The whole conversion of groups of vehicles to individual vehicles to better reflect the impact of elite units on small scale combat. I neglected the conversion at the time (poor bookkeeping on me )

Originally a jumphawk squad was 4 chinook heavy lift variants (your 6 jumphawks represented 24 vehicles) keeping with cannonocity it required 8 copters to lift a jaeger (2 squads of 4) that was 2 squads for Bracer, 2 squads for mammoth, and 2 squads to cover downtime engine maintenance pre Doc Brown.

I'm Bumping your Jumphawks in inventory to the 24, that should ease conventional transportation and leave you enough to airlift out Bracer.
 
I have returned! Friend was in poor health, spent most of my time with him giving him my undivided attention. He is a devious S.O.B. and has contributed greatly to ideas both for your benefit and downfall.

He also has spawned (and recruited through marriage to his offspring) a great many geeklings that have graciously consented to give our game a glance. If they do join our ranks I would put a few of them on par with @BadKatt85 for creativity and non-linear thinking as they too have been gaming from a tender age in a rather immersive upbringing.

My batteries are fully recharged, and my brain has been marinating in the creative presence of the survivors of my formative gaming group (from 40+ yrs ago).

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Please someone write up a 'plan' for the newest (and most troubled) of Outpost settlements so it can be voted in as official policy.

We could also use the bare bones for a Downtime turn detailing research and spending 'plan' to generate discussion before you launch the rescue/punitive action, (please remember to reserve an action for the rescue/punitive action.)
 
[ ] 'Georgetown Renewal'
  • increase Protectorate Law Enforcement presence due to high levels of violent crime
  • Have our resident architect, draw up plans to renovate & gentrify portions of Georgetown with eye to easing accessibility of all emergency services, shortened response times.
  • Give economics incentives to bring more jobs into community (more local jobs = better Quality of overall life for citizens.)
  • Councillor BadKatt will approach and have a sit down with Mr. Masserone*** ( contents to be detailed in another post and with council input & approval before finalized as cannon.)
 
BadKatt85 said:
[ ] 'Georgetown Renewal'
  • increase Protectorate Law Enforcement presence due to high levels of violent crime
  • Have our resident architect, draw up plans to renovate & gentrify portions of Georgetown with eye to easing accessibility of all emergency services, shortened response times.
  • Give economics incentives to bring more jobs into community (more local jobs = better Quality of overall life for citizens.)
  • Councillor BadKatt will approach and have a sit down with Mr. Masserone*** ( contents to be detailed in another post and with council input & approval before finalized as cannon.)
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Looks good to me.
 
Smithsguild said:
I have returned!
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After a 2 week vacation I'm sending out a Gratuitous Ping. I am alerting you as to forward traction on the storyline because sometimes SV fails at notifications...

@Highwind , @KnightDisciple , @monomoniker , @Fyrstorm , @BadKatt85 , @HolyDragoon , @avatar11792 , @Justhere , @Cmd. Frost , @cokerpilot , & @Dadarian (Those were my active participants & at least one of my most recent lurkers, if you were omitted my apologies, speak up and I'll flag you for future notifications, again if these pings are UNWELCOME a simple "drop me" will suffice, (And I thank you for your past patronage).
 
There is also the small matter of 1 additional jacketed AKP 'Sentinel of Faith' and 6 more jacketed AKP's that need appearance detailed and named to gain benefit of graduating to elite status.
 
-Technological Convergence (Breakthrough)-

With the hard work of Allison Choi working with the Sentinels of Faith & the Jacketed AKP's, the Modular Armor technology breakthrough (inspired by Fyrstorm), and some innovations (life support & armor subsystems) stolen whole cloth from the Sarcophagus powered armor used to sustain Charleston's Cyborg forces, all combat jackets now provide limited environmental protection as well as shrugging off all but the luckiest shots from small arms fire (SSC). Hvy SSC weapons still remain credible threats and should be treated with caution.

J-Tech believes these breakthroughs may also be the key to unlocking the potential for single crew member Mark Zero 'Micro Jaegers' if proper resources and effort are devoted to the project.
 
Smithsguild said:
I have returned! Friend was in poor health, spent most of my time with him giving him my undivided attention. He is a devious S.O.B. and has contributed greatly to ideas both for your benefit and downfall.

He also has spawned (and recruited through marriage to his offspring) a great many geeklings that have graciously consented to give our game a glance. If they do join our ranks I would put a few of them on par with @BadKatt85 for creativity and non-linear thinking as they too have been gaming from a tender age in a rather immersive upbringing.

My batteries are fully recharged, and my brain has been marinating in the creative presence of the survivors of my formative gaming group (from 40+ yrs ago).

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Please someone write up a 'plan' for the newest (and most troubled) of Outpost settlements so it can be voted in as official policy.

We could also use the bare bones for a Downtime turn detailing research and spending 'plan' to generate discussion before you launch the rescue/punitive action, (please remember to reserve an action for the rescue/punitive action.)
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Good to see you're back!
Unfortunately, I'm a bit busy with a thing, plus weekend travels. I'm not able to participate much today, but I'll try to come up with a good downtime plan tomorrow, if no one else makes one.

[X] 'Georgetown Renewal'
I like it.
Smithsguild said:
-Technological Convergence (Breakthrough)-

With the hard work of Allison Choi working with the Sentinels of Faith & the Jacketed AKP's, the Modular Armor technology breakthrough (inspired by Fyrstorm), and some innovations (life support & armor subsystems) stolen whole cloth from the Sarcophagus powered armor used to sustain Charleston's Cyborg forces, all combat jackets now provide limited environmental protection as well as shrugging off all but the luckiest shots from small arms fire (SSC). Hvy SSC weapons still remain credible threats and should be treated with caution.

J-Tech believes these breakthroughs may also be the key to unlocking the potential for single crew member Mark Zero 'Micro Jaegers' if proper resources and effort are devoted to the project.
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I can't wait to build a Mark 0. I've had a few ideas that might work for them... :drevil:
 
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[X] 'Georgetown Renewal

I'm sorry I haven't been super-productive in here myself. Been a busy couple of weeks, and I've spent the last week fighting the allergy cruds from a couple of flare-ups.

Smithsguild said:
-Technological Convergence (Breakthrough)-

With the hard work of Allison Choi working with the Sentinels of Faith & the Jacketed AKP's, the Modular Armor technology breakthrough (inspired by Fyrstorm), and some innovations (life support & armor subsystems) stolen whole cloth from the Sarcophagus powered armor used to sustain Charleston's Cyborg forces, all combat jackets now provide limited environmental protection as well as shrugging off all but the luckiest shots from small arms fire (SSC). Hvy SSC weapons still remain credible threats and should be treated with caution.

J-Tech believes these breakthroughs may also be the key to unlocking the potential for single crew member Mark Zero 'Micro Jaegers' if proper resources and effort are devoted to the project.
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That is more than adequate support, 'Georgetown Renewal' should be considered a 'lock'.

Awaiting the @BadKatt85 / Masserone sit down draft for council consideration, once you guys lock it I'll be happy to give it my attention.
 
This is a rough draft, but I believe it covers all the high points. As always critique away, more eyes and minds the better the end result.


[ ] Masserone Sit Down (& Listen ;))

Councillor Badkatt will approach Masserone when he is at one of his offices. (Casino, Construction, Tybee Resorts, it matters not where exactly just in one of his 'seats of power' on his turf where he will feel at ease and his strongest.) She will -politely- request an A.S.A.P sit down.

First she will politely inquire how things are going? Is he still happy with his current working relation with the Council? It seems his exclusive Casino deal & construction work has paid dividends as it should.

She congratulates him on expanding into his newest ventures in the Tybee tourism industry, she notes how these ventures all have carried over and lowered the previous violent crime rates in the area. A happy coincidence or maybe just some hands on common sense precautions; she wouldn't venture a guess...

She then mentions how a large portion of his unskilled labor base are bussed in from a downtrodden suburb of Savannah, Georgetown and how she would like to pick his brain, if maybe he with the help of the Architect Nathaniel Gulf could maybe redesign the neighborhoods to encourage a similar drop in violent crime. Ideally dozing the shotgun shacks after building more spacious, better quality homes. Designing roadways and neighborhoods around granting emergency services (police, fire, EMS) speedy response times from local station.

She then mentions the future tax breaks for new business starts in Georgetown, and how ideally the best and brightest of the Georgetown natives could obtain positions in middle management, maybe even in some Masserone ventures? Ideally they would be built gentrified housing in Georgetown using the Council discount to encourage them not to bail on their former neighborhood but raising the overall value of their homes and adjacent properties.

If Masserone proves willing and able to help us better this troubled area, maybe the Council could extend some of these tax breaks to his existing properties such as the Casino, Tourist Trade, or any Construction side jobs they undertake...
 
My 2 cents on DT planning.

I agree with Highwinds assessment re: strike eagle, longbow, & the UAVs.

However I want to point out some glaring deficiences. Namely not providing in field triage. Medivac Little Birds & a M.A.S.H. unit would provide a substantial boost to survivability.

If I am not mistaken, Smiths should allow us to buy variants of Little Bird airframe w/t same action as it is merely the 'options' that differ between medivac, target acquisition & Killer Shrike.

With 2 airfields providing 2 of the 4 aircraft ( Strike Eagle, UAV, Longbow, & LittleBird) with free build actions.

We can for 2 free actions, 3 regular actions purchase as many of the 4 combat craft, 1 support craft, 1 target acquisition craft, and the MASH unit as our finances permit.

I think giving Liberty a Little Bird, & the siezed cargo container of M16's & ammo to distribute amongst Charleston guerillas would makes our troops harder to isolate when we kick off the rescue.
 
@BadKatt85 I think the meeting outline is solid. I don't love intentional gentrification but I think you're doing some good work to kind of prevent the negative effects there. Me personally I'd prefer we don't provide tax breaks to gambling-based businesses. Tourist trade, construction, transport, those are all fine. But frankly I don't have a high view of casinos....unless they're super-exclusive they're likely to be more of a detriment to the middle and lower class population than the upper class.

I do agree about trying to have some medivac units out there and provide some to Liberty. The 3rd AKP unit I intend to write up will be based on Pararescue.
 
KnightDisciple said:
The 3rd AKP unit I intend to write up will be based on Pararescue.
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Is this a powered armor unit? (formerly combat jacket). If so I see some intriguing options opening up...

(Examples could include Steerable heavy chute, quick connect/disconnect to enter/exit the exoskeleton in non-powered ballistic armor the frame of the exoskeleton providing ample stowage for diverse life saving equipment, such as Oxygen, Defibrillator, Etc. that most Corpsman can't carry into the field. Once the wounded are stabile, the Exo could fasten upto 2 of them inside kevlar jumpsuits with Mortis Harness style rigs ( mounted chest/back) to the exo allowing the Corpsman to leg it out of a hot spot for some where less hazardous for a more traditional exfiltration. (medivac helo, etc.)

I believe somewhere I put the Jackets top speed over friendly terrain comparable to a jeep, rough but passable terrain about 3/4's of that.

Down side is the Waldos would be sacrificed for medical equipment, and extended battery life.

Edit: meaning the Corpsman would be limited to SSC sidearms to guard his charges in extremes, something like a service rifle, a shotgun, dual machine pistols, etc. (His primary duty is medivac, not a combatant.)
 
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Smithsguild said:
Is this a powered armor unit? (formerly combat jacket). If so I see some intriguing options opening up...

(Examples could include Steerable heavy chute, quick connect/disconnect to enter/exit the exoskeleton in non-powered ballistic armor the frame of the exoskeleton providing ample stowage for diverse life saving equipment, such as Oxygen, Defibrillator, Etc. that most Corpsman can't carry into the field. Once the wounded are stabile, the Exo could fasten upto 2 of them inside kevlar jumpsuits with Mortis Harness style rigs ( mounted chest/back) to the exo allowing the Corpsman to leg it out of a hot spot for some where less hazardous for a more traditional exfiltration. (medivac helo, etc.)

I believe somewhere I put the Jackets top speed over friendly terrain comparable to a jeep, rough but passable terrain about 3/4's of that.

Down side is the Waldos would be sacrificed for medical equipment, and extended battery life.
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Yes. Light weapons, heavy extraction and med gear. Combo EMS/Firefighter, but they need a bit of firepower because they have to do extraction.

Today has been hella busy at work so we'll see what happens.
 
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