Magical Girl Quest - The Fire That Burns

I will only ever consolidate the votes if a tiebreaker is impossible otherwise.

Either that, or the thread convinces me that reading the individual line votes is a good idea.
I generally do not think so, because plans often have a plan in mind when they pick which options they do.
I can understand that, but, for example, plan Magical Swords is the same to the currently winning plan (right above), except it takes Daiyu as a sparring partner instead. Similarly, Plan Control and a Bit of other Stuff is also just about the same, if we check the post that spawned it.

I didn't say about the result of consolidating votes just at random.
 
[X] {Magical} Work on improving your magic control [X2]
[X] {Magical} Try and harden your armour by refining it
[X] {Physical} Bulli Practice sword fighting with Sabina for a while
 
And less than the fact they were the ones to resort to decapitating strikes first and negotiating not in any of Karen's episodes.
Just out of curiousity, do you have any proof they did not try that before Cerys came around? :whistle:

1)And risking losing all those support?
2)In the end we do have influence due to what we represent so we can moderate her actions.
1) You could get the same support if you switched, although it might take more work than just walking in and striking a deal

2) You think so? Cerys has exactly as much influence as Karen wants her to have. You have seen Karen's sheet, Cerys can force her to do exactly nothing if push comes to shove.


I generally do not think so, because plans often have a plan in mind when they pick which options they do.
Your innocent arnt you? :whistle:
Well... my plans generally were made with a an overall idea in mind, yes. I can not speak for anyone else, though :V
 
Just out of curiousity, do you have any proof they did not try that before Cerys came around? :whistle:


1) You could get the same support if you switched, although it might take more work than just walking in and striking a deal

2) You think so? Cerys has exactly as much influence as Karen wants her to have. You have seen Karen's sheet, Cerys can force her to do exactly nothing if push comes to shove.
No, no proof per se. Out of curiosity, do you have any proof they did? :whistle:

And about point #2. Noooot quite. If push really comes to shove, "freeze everything" and "Alpha and Omega" sound as possible methods of leverage. Not good ones, but possible ones.
 
No, no proof per se. Out of curiosity, do you have any proof they did? :whistle:

And about point #2. Noooot quite. If push really comes to shove, "freeze everything" and "Alpha and Omega" sound as possible methods of leverage. Not good ones, but possible ones.
No such proof, but I did not claim it was the other way around. You are just assuming an awful lot in order to paint the Counter Force as bad... or worse than Karen, at least.

Aside from that, I can assure you that your suggestion would not work.
Even if Cerys could apply the Freeze on Karen, that would still leave the latter with one action per turn; she does not need more to one-shot Cerys, maybe two-shot her. Plus, Alpha and Omega would remove the Freeze-effect.


Oh, right. Forgot to address that:
Its her or the dudes who shot us at the start of the story.
Rukia mentioned something in a Q&A some time ago. Nothing concrete, but it sounds a lot as if the person who had their soldiers shoot at Cerys was some officer of the US Army (or whatever) acting by themselves.
 
Tbh you don't really need to assume much to paint them as horrible. Ignoring everything else the speech alone and what it implies guarantees a war that will, if we are very lucky, end up with only most of humanity dead because that is you get when you start WW3 by painting the other side as terrorists. There isn't much that can justify that kind of thing and the most reasonable possible explanations are our side just being that awful or them being that awful, and we know from chapters in her PoV if nothing else that Karen isn't one of the worst monsters in human history.

Sure it is possible that... I don't know if they manage to kill the vast majority of magic users the Barrier will sustain itself for centuries? That they figure demons won't invade if we are at total war and concluded that is our best chance of survival? That it is all a severe misunderstanding? Or whatever else but until we have anything IC that says anything besides 'they are assholes' instead of OOC paranoia I just don't think there is any point in worrying about it.

Instead we should be seeing if we can get Magical Girls to not escalate against each other so after global civilization has collapsed we can rebuild civilization with magic included from the ground-up. Perhaps that is aiming rather high but unless things end in a few days* it is best we can get realistically get and in the face of the end the of world might as well give it a try.

*Demons invading just as both sides are gearing up for Mortal Kombat or an internal coup going "Yeah how about no." would be interesting.
 
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Tbh you don't really need to assume much to paint them as horrible. Ignoring everything else the speech alone and what it implies guarantees a war that will, if we are very lucky, end up with only most of humanity dead because that is you get when you start WW3 by painting the other side as terrorists. There isn't much that can justify that kind of thing and the most reasonable possible explanations are our side just being that awful or them being that awful, and we know from chapters in her PoV if nothing else that Karen isn't one of the worst monsters in human history.

Sure it is possible that... I don't know if they manage to kill the vast majority of magic users the Barrier will sustain itself for centuries? That they figure demons won't invade if we are at total war and concluded that is our best chance of survival? That it is all a severe misunderstanding? Or whatever else but until we have anything IC that says anything besides 'they are assholes' instead of OOC paranoia I just don't think there is any point in worrying about it.

Instead we should be seeing if we can get Magical Girls to not escalate against each other so after global civilization has collapsed we can rebuild civilization with magic included from the ground-up. Perhaps that is aiming rather high but unless things end in a few days* it is best we can get realistically get and in the face of the end the of world might as well give it a try.

*Demons invading just as both sides are gearing up for Mortal Kombat or an internal coup going "Yeah how about no." would be interesting.
It might be somewhat surprising, but yes, the Counter Force do have multiple valid and sensible reasons for what they are doing.
Just because you do not know what they are, does not mean they don't exist.
 
No such proof, but I did not claim it was the other way around. You are just assuming an awful lot in order to paint the Counter Force as bad... or worse than Karen, at least.
Naron, I'm not assuming anything! :lol

I'm in this quest for Una's adorableness and its probable evolution into adorable badassitude! :lol

The intricacies of Karen and Illuminati machinations, as well as the whoddunits on the whole "attack Una's current home" are of a secondary concern at the best of times.
Just assuming that the people who shot at her back in the beginning were connected to the Counter Force is somewhat out of character for her as well.

That said, A REASONED RESPONSE.

I have faith in nothing but this: When the universe collapses and dies there will be three survivors - Tyr Anasazi, cockroaches, and Dylan Hunt trying to save the cockroaches.

Ahem, I have faith in this:
1) Karen wants to do right by Cerys and Una
2) Karen did not orchestrate the attack on her country house while playing host to Cerys and Una
3) Even if the group responsible for attack on Karen's country house isn't Counter Force, after the latest chapter CF is at the very least a very useful patsy to the ones responsible.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if this is actually a classic Divide and Conquer scenario by means of orchestrating simultaneous attacks on both CF and Clocktower in false flag operations.
 
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Just saying, they had perfectly good reason for that. Actually... hey, the one who said they were after Una was Karen.
How do we know they were not going after the Clocktower's leader as she was currently in a less secure position, with one of her greatest assets right next to her? And Una's spike in magical power just gave them an opening, or showed them where exactly Karen was at the moment?

You should be careful when thinking like Cerys. Karen is smarter than that and we know she is not above manipulating people to get what she wants.

Well yeah. Their sensors/detectors for detecting magical events went off, and it went off in a similar manner to other confirmed Magical Girls. Of course they got a lock onto the location and attempted to kill the threat, unknowing that they were attacking a nine year old - though they probably wouldn't have cared either way.

Furthermore, the greatest difference between that point and any point in time prior to it... is Una becoming Empowered as a Magical Girl. Certainly, they may have tried to take additional shots at Karen, but she's been in other relatively low security locations on and off for years, and we hadn't been in that little enclave for so long that anyone other than a superspy could have gotten the information out.

The attempt appears to have been launched as soon as it could have been. A high-speed suicide run at a known location in an attempt to destroy an incredible enemy asset.

Sure, she's an incredibly capable manipulator... but the best part of this, from her perspective, is that she didn't have to do anything when it happened. The strike was seen from her PoV, she was just as surprised, upset, and distressed as Cerys, if for not quite the same reasons, though she did have better control over herself. To be expected of someone more than a century old, even while going through a series of unpleasant surprises.

Bleh, could probably go on forever about this, screw it, gonna stop.

It might be somewhat surprising, but yes, the Counter Force do have multiple valid and sensible reasons for what they are doing.
Just because you do not know what they are, does not mean they don't exist.

Ehh, it isn't the Counter Force that is our primary enemy, it's the people pulling the strings of the Counter Force and, by extension, the strings of the nation-states that have Counter Force bases set up within them.

Unfortunately we have no idea who those people actually are and have no real way to expose them.

Very grey vs gray war, as was said earlier.
 
Uh... you... do realise I was talking about the soldiers going after Cerys during the first Arc, while we were still in America?


I'm in this quest for Una's adorableness and its probable evolution into adorable badassitude! :lol
Additionally, on that... I hope you bring at least enough reason and care so that you get to keep this adorableness. It takes only one dead Cerys for most of it to vanish forever, after all.
 
It might be somewhat surprising, but yes, the Counter Force do have multiple valid and sensible reasons for what they are doing.
Just because you do not know what they are, does not mean they don't exist.
Nah not surprising as I said I can see them having valid reasons, I just don't think it makes any difference on what we should do, which is try to keep Cerys, Una, Daiyu, Cuifen and Morgan alive while seeing if we can make the recovery from the apocalypse a little less horrible. Maybe on the way we will stumble on those reasons or something else which might, or might not, change anything but until then there is nothing we can do and worrying about it diminishes our chances in doing what we can.

Hell it is the same way I view the upcoming demon invasion. React to what we actually know and do what we can, no point in worrying further.
 
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I'll be honest

I care a lot less about "good or bad" than I do about "currently trying to kill us"
 
I'll admit, I myself am still baffled at what the hell the Illuminati turned Counter Force is even getting at. All I know for sure is that there is no way it's a stupid reason. Probably. To quote the great Cpl_Facehugger over on SB:

A good rule of thumb is, when something seems incredibly stupid, you should probably rethink the assumptions that led you to that point. Characters in fiction rarely knowingly do something they think is stupid. I've seen players in this quest decry something as stupid in the past only to fail to realize that it's their own assumptions that make it so...

If you shape your decision making around "these people are stupid", things might not go so well for you if it turns out that they aren't.
I guess what I'm getting at here is, we need more information. Not just militarily useful intel, but also the sort of info that sheds light on why they're doing something that seems stupid to us on the surface.
 
global civilization has collapsed we can rebuild civilization with magic included from the ground-up. Perhaps that is aiming rather high but unless things end in a few days* it is best we can get realistically get and in the face of the end the of world might as well give it a try.
Tad bit crazy think we can rebuild if the war cause global civilization might as well be Libra's Lament only we would get an invasion on top of it anyway.
Best we can hope for is try to delay any attack attempts, reduce amount of casualties if there's no choice until the invasion hits so more use of her frozen abilities or heat up their weapons, tanks and planes which would stop any major attacks short of killing them.
Of course we could use Alpha and Omega just to haste the fall of the barrier to unite everyone but there's too much guilt from that.
 
[X] {Magical} Work on improving your magic control [X2]
[X] {Magical} Try and harden your armour by refining it
[X] {Physical} Bulli Practice sword fighting with Sabina for a while
Number of voters: 5

Vote locked.
 
PROGRESS
You eye your sparring partner, the blow you'd dealt her earlier was obviously catching up to her, the way she was wheezing a little and leaning on her sword showing how much damage you'd done. She probably has broken ribs... You frown as you stare at her, she should be fine in a day or two, but you might not have a day or two. I can kind of heal can't I? You hum as you think about your idea. It's not like it can do any harm?

"Hey, 'cmere." She looks up at you a little confused, but she saunters over as steadily as she can. You point at the toppled dummy next to you. "Sit down, I'm going to heal your ribs."

She nearly falls into the makeshift seat. "You can heal?" You hum non-committally, it was kind of healing, that counted right? You drop down to your knee next to her and gently take her hand, ignoring the stare drilling into your head. "You can heal properly right?" You ignore her pointed question as you extend your magic, gathering it up against her skin before you shove yourself into her.

She sits bolt upright, her hair literally standing on end as you quickly smother the resistance, a floaty expression quickly spreading across her face as she looks down at you with lidded eyes. "Thaaaatsss..." Her words trail off as you start running tiny little lines of your regeneration through her body. "Mmmmmm" You grab her with your other arm before she slides off of her seat, her head lolling against your chest with a curious hum.

You yelp when you feel her nip at your ribs, quickly pushing her back onto her seat with a grumble as you feel your face heat up at the unexpected contact. That hurt dammit. You ignore the amused smile that slowly spreads across her face, occasionally pushing her back onto her seat as she starts leaning towards you, mouth open. "I'm not edible, stop that." She ignores your words, letting you hold her up as you finish whatever it is that your regeneration does, her breathing significantly less laboured.

When you start drawing your magic back and stop pushing hers down her eyes clear quickly. It barely takes a few seconds before she's staring at you with wide eyes, glancing between her hands and you rapidly. "What the fuck was that." She pushes you off her, blinking quickly as she shakes her arms, movements quickly smoothing back to normal. "The fuck did you do." She's staring at you with angry eyes, her hand drifting near the handle of her sword.

"I uhh, healed you." She frowns, feeling her ribs and taking a deep breath. "My method of healing is a little, strange?"

She snorts at your words, staring down at her fingers as she moves them. "You don't say." She sits back with a sigh, hand still not leaving her weapon. "Fucking warn a girl before you do that, it was..." She trains off, running her tongue over her teeth and staring at your chest with a sort of dawning horror. She lets out a low keening noise, hands rising from her sides to cover her face as a furious blush spreads across it. "Oh my god just kill me now."

You look away and let her retain whatever dignity she has left. Probably should have thought that through. Note to self, healing people leads to... interesting results. You step back, turning away from her with an awkward cough. "I'm just gonna go over here and practice magic, 'kay." You're off before she says anything, though you doubt that she is capable of speech right now.

Think brain, think, literally anything else right now. You ignore the slight throbbing pain in on your side as you stare at your armour. That'll do. You sit down against the wall, keeping your eyes down as you stare at your armour, dismissing it and re-summoning it. As always, there was the slight delay and the crumplyness of the armour itself.

(77 + 10 = 87)

Honestly, it goes about as well as you could have hoped. Seeing that you didn't exactly have a guide on making your armour stronger, you like to think that the fact you made progress at all was a good sign. All of that considered, you feel like you made good progress, though it feels a little more... brittle? Your armour definitely feels stronger, heavier even, though it doesn't seem to weigh you down any more than it did before. Now, if only I could get rid of the open chest section.

You frown at your chest, it is a little annoying how much your armour emphasises your figure. Not that you are insecure about it or anything, you know you are well above the curve for your age, but it really is a hassle sometimes. At least it's comfortable, I can't imagine how much it would chafe if it didn't have some magical bullshit. You wince at the though, memories of your first attempts to wear a bra returning to you. Really, really glad.

A thought dawns on you as you stare at your chest, and then your inhumanly comfortable armour. I wonder...

You drop your transformation, then close your eyes, focusing on your normal clothing as you let yourself rest against the wall.

(94 + 10 = 104 Artificial Crit!)

You don't notice anything at first, but you eventually notice the lack of something. Mainly, the dozen little itches and scratches your clothes have just from wearing them. Is this? You stretch your arms forwards, holding one wrist with the other as you take a deep breath. Oh yesssss. The familiar stabbing pain of the metal in your bra is gone, just leaving a feeling of freedom as you breath deeply, not worried about jabbing yourself for the first time in years. Alright, this is probably the second best thing ever, right after flying. You jump to your feet, a little giggle forcing it's way out of your throat as you spin on the spot, your clothes gliding across your skin like water.

You skip over to Sabina, ignoring her horribly confused look as you haul her to her feet, your armour flashing into existence as your sword forms in your hand. You swing just slowly enough for her sword to appear in her hand, stopping your half-hearted swing with an awkward motion as she hops back. She doesn't say anything, but you can see the grin start stretching across her face, the freshly dried blood from earlier looking perfectly natural on her face.

(23 + 15 = 38)

In the end you don't actually get much training done, because after five minutes the both of you descended into wailing on the other as hard as you could without dealing permanent damage.

But by fuck was is good stress relief.

/LINE BREAK\​

You are still releasing the occasional giggle as you walk back to your room, not noticing strange looks everyone else is sending you, too absorbed in how comfy your clothes were. Una's habitual tackle hug is caught and you spin her around with a laugh, setting her on your shoulders with a grin. You don't see it, but you can feel the wide smile on her face, her magic burbling happily against yours.

You take a deep breath, in a genuinely good mood for the first time in... It's been a while. You ignore every one looking at your smile, dropping back onto the sofa and shifting your sister onto your lap. She immediately burrows into your clothes letting out a giggle as she rubs her face against your stomach. "Ooof." You just barely manage to restrain the laughter that tries to tear it's way out of you. She must never know I am ticklish. You see a dangerous grin on Morgan's face out of the corner of your eyes and feel a sense of impending doom.

She leans forwards, elbows on either side of you as she smirks down at you. Don't you dare- "Una." She opens her mouth and you already know it's too late to stop her. I will get you for this. "You should be careful, I think Cerys here has a ticklish stomach." Your pain will be legendary.

You see your sister pause, gently bringing a single hand to your belly and poking it. You just barely manage to restrain yourself to quivering muscles. The exuberant smile that tears it's way across her face spells out your fate in excruciatingly happy detail. My vengeance will be spoken of until the end of time!

Your sister begins her assault, her tiny fingers prodding and poking and tickling as you grit your teeth, only the tiniest noises escaping you. You recognise the sparkle in her eyes, turning pleading eyes to your reliable shield. She abandons you to your fate, a tiny smile on her face.

Noooooooo-

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Your breathless pants are interrupted by a knock on the door; you take the opportunity, gently escaping from your sister's grasp and plopping her back down in your seat. You rush to the door, throwing it open with scruffy hair and a ruffled shirt.

A very harried looking Samantha waits for you on the other side, looking like she's practically ran here straight from her office. You give her a minute to catch her breath, steadfastly ignoring the way she looks at your ruffled clothes and then further into the room.

She shakes her head, turning to look at you as she takes a deep breath. "Ignition Knight." Oh, serious time. You straighten out as best as your abused stomach will let you. "Karen would like to inform you that you are needed for a meeting now. Please come prepared."

You blink at her words, pressing your lips together before turning back to the room. "Daiyu, I need you." She's out of her seat in a flash, at the door and ready to go moments later. You turn back to Samantha and she takes another deep breath.

"Please follow me." She turns and sets off without seeing if you'll follow, leading you towards the garage, but turning off to the right just before. There are several rooms, the plaques of the doors labelled one to seven. Meeting rooms? You don't say anything as you follow her towards room five, a weight settling onto your shoulders as you catch a glimpse of Karen frowning deeply at a tall man who looked like he wanted to be anywhere but here while still trying to be stoic.

"What is it?" The door closes behind you as Samantha steps out of the room, sealing shut with a small click. Your eyes move to the logo on the side of his shirt, a prominent patch of a three headed dog. Where have I seen that before?

Karen's usual composure is gone as she just barely resists glaring at the man, who you will admit is either incredibly brave or stupid, steps forwards to hand you a small card note.

You turn it over, flicking it open and reading the short message in the middle.

To Ignition Knight,

We would like to arrange a meeting with you to discuss recent events and offer an apology for our actions.
Please leave your response with the messenger.

From, Annabelle Samuels
Counter Force Associate


There is a small symbol printed on the card, a three headed dog, just below the words 'Counter Force'. It takes a second before it clicks in your head and you slowly look up at the unassuming man, and the patch on his shoulder.

What.

You open your mouth and close it again, words failing you completely as you stare at the man, your mental track completely derailed.

"Umm, yes. The meeting, yes." You speak before you can think about the consequences. "I get to pick the time, place and who I bring." Karen makes a noise, a thing that you can't really place beyond disgruntled.

The man just nods at you amicably, taking the note back with hands that are shaking only slightly. "Of course, please list a time and I will inform my boss."

As you open your mouth to speak, you can't help but ask yourself. What the fuck is this?

[] {Location} A nearby Cafe in London
[] {Location} Ask Karen for a nearby Neutral location
[] {Location} Write In...

[] {Party} Write In...
(Karen is not allowed)

[] {Time} Now
[] {Time} In a few hours
[] {Time} Tomorrow
 
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Level 9 -> 10
Base Resilience: 106-> 140
Ability now scales Linearly
Magic Control

Semi-Competent -> Competent
+15 to all magic control rolls.
 
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I didnt even slightly expect CF to want to talk, Im even more surprised Karen didnt just tell them to fuck right off.
 
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I think this is a good chance to hear them out, I mean let's face it all we've heard about them is from Karen and she's not exactly unbiased in this. Not saying they're innocent in this but we might have a chance to not kick start ww3. And that's a good thing.

[X] {Location} A nearby Cafe in London

Somewhere random where neither side has a say in it but where it can be watched by both.

[X] {Party} Write In...
-[x] Daiyu

Pretty sure the only person I want to bring is Daiyu but maybe Sabrina? Una would be safe at the clocktower just in case and I feel like people wouldn't vote to leave it anyway.

[X] {Time} Now
[] {Time} In a few hours
[] {Time} Tomorrow

There's a few pros and cons to each. If we go immediately it might not leave them any time to be prepared in conjunction to the location Cerys picks. A few hours would give us prep time probably by Keran which is both a pro and a con in my opinion. And tomorrow I guess we'd be ready for anything but so would the counter force.
(Karen is not allowed)
Good.
 
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I... I have no words.
No, I actually have some.

1) Are we getting any formalized spell/skill/ability for sharing our regeneration?
2) Who is Samantha again and can she contribute to the meeting?
3) This is rather awkward...
4) Apropos of nothing, I think our burning of the forest from near Canadian Border might have contributed to Clocktower being declared terrorists, by someone using it to claim "Clocktower took over Canada and this fire was their plot".
 
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