La Chanson de la Victoire (The Song of Victory): La Petite Arpenteuse (Non, SV, you are a General of France in the Napoleonic War!)

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Star said:
We are all trying to get peace of Spain and remember, Spanish monarchy pretty much left Spain. If they are smart they'll probably deescalate and focus internally. Until now it looked like they are smart and there not much they can do in Spain anyway as it will either be in British, or French hands. No point in fighting others wars when they know that Spain is lost, but empire remains!

Edit: they are in no state to fight a prestige war, they can strike back at their enemies only in long term, but in short term they must swallow their pride .
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Can't get Spain back but they can still hurt the British in other ways like the British land in the New World.
Star said:
I mean it's true, but they have advantageous position similar to US and time.

US for one is quite far from the point where it will be able to extert American hegemony, not to mention it got itself involved in world politics (despite the lucky rolls and memes this war will probably cost US far more than victory will) and other potential threats like British for example are busy with more pressing matters like Europe, India and US. French are the same , they are busy with Europe and if they win they will spend decades in integrating their European conquest.

Basically new Spain is good for now.



Actually given their losses in Americas and victories in India/Spain, plus situation in France it's quite possible for them to accept white peace and refocus on conquest of India, putting Americas back in place and integrating their Spanish conquest in Portugal to create decent buffer in Iberia.

After all we all know peace is temporary, but we also know that both sides need it.
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I'd rather think they don't want peace the British or even the French. The more they recover the harder it will be to beat them later. I'd say peace benefits the British more than the French.
 
Wait, @Magoose, didn't you say Britain lost in India Rolls-Wise a while ago?

Britain doing so well is damn annoying, but they'll get theirs in time. (Not to mention they got fucked in the Navy-Department). Looks like there will be a Proxy War between us and Britain to secure Spain.

Plus side, large Scale conflicts in Mainland Europe are over for now, it seems.

Also, what exactly is Don Carlos doing? From my read, it seems like he's trying to secure Madrid against the Brits.
 
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mrsean22 said:
Can't get Spain back but they can still hurt the British in other ways like the British land in the New World.
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They have problem with keeping they own land in America, they don't need add further to that problem. I believe they are in this with US to stop the British from destroying them in new world, opposed to trying to expand. Even US is only in it for rescue operation and to stop the British from Bullying them and interfering in American affairs.

Neither US, nor NS are in it for expansion sake

mrsean22 said:
I'd rather think they don't want peace the British or even the French. The more they recover the harder it will be to beat them later. I'd say peace benefits the British more than the French.
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I'm just pointing the logical options based on latest events. We both need this peace, we to recover, British to warp up their backyard.

As for who benefits from it? It depends how well we and British play our cards in preparation for another conflict.
 
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Magoose said:
They did. I did not expect the sultan to roll a nat 1 and nat 1 again making any gain he might have had worthless.

Then the gb rolled a nat 100.
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Ah. Well, that explains it.

Let's hope our Troops still there can get out. On the Plus side, that means Wellesley will probably rise much like OTL, meaning we can still have a Showdown with one of the few men of the Era who could match Napoleon as a General.
 
Star said:
They have problem with keeping they own land in America, they don't need add further to that problem. I believe they are in this with US to stop the British from destroying them in new world, opposed to trying to expand. Even US is only in it for rescue operation and to stop the British from Bullying them.
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Never said expand. Said cause trouble. And I really doubt the British are gonna just let this stand no matter what. So New Spain and USA might as well prepare and make it harder for the British.

Star said:
I'm just pointing the logical options based on latest events. We both need this peace, we to recover, British to warp up their backyard.

As for who benefits from the peace,cuts important to note that British cannot really have a go at us without reliable continental and as long as we manage to keep Russia on the fences we will be safe.

As for the rest, remember Napoleon will want to go to another war just as British will.
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I'd say the British need it more so they can fund more wars later on. French would benefit more if they kept going from not letting the British recover along with only having one front in Spain. Which would still be very possible to recover from the food situation.

British can't fight us alone which is why we'd benefit more from not making peace with them. They'd have to still focus on multiple fronts while France only one.
 
mrsean22 said:
Never said expand. Said cause trouble. And I really doubt the British are gonna just let this stand no matter what. So New Spain and USA might as well prepare and make it harder for the British.
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The British public might not be very happy with failing wars and the Royal Navy being fucked on home territory.

Especially because the Irish are about to get real uppity now that the Royal navy got fucked on Irish territory.

And this being Ireland we know and love... well... There is a republic that may be in need of support from dear old France.
mrsean22 said:
I'd say the British need it more so they can fund more wars later on. French would benefit more if they kept going from not letting the British recover along with only having one front in Spain. Which would still be very possible to recover from the food situation.
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Britan is on a timer where they are now... suffering from some rather humiliating defeats around the world and they need to rectify them otherwise, there will be a lose of faith, both in Parliament and in the Crown.

something our pals in HM's government do not want.

They also can't make peace because all the shit that they have thrown money at have failed.

They need to justify the spending.
 
Magoose said:
The British public might not be very happy with failing wars and the Royal Navy being fucked on home territory.

Especially because the Irish are about to get real uppity now that the Royal navy got fucked on Irish territory.

And this being Ireland we know and love... well... There is a republic that may be in need of support from dear old France.
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What type of unhappy are we talking? The we must keep fighting unhappy or we need to stop unhappy?

Yeah Irish rising up is a risk the British can't ignore but the current leadership is all about being the best and you aren't the best of you make peace with the guys that are humiliating you.

Magoose said:
Britan is on a timer where they are now... suffering from some rather humiliating defeats around the world and they need to rectify them otherwise, there will be a lose of faith, both in Parliament and in the Crown.

something our pals in HM's government do not want.

They also can't make peace because all the shit that they have thrown money at have failed.

They need to justify the spending.
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Yeah the British Government entire thing for these conflicts is not working. If anything they are losing more they are gaining. Only success they have is India and Spain at this point. Once the people start questioning the government changes might happen that certain groups might not like.....Robespierre you gonna cause trouble? :V
 
so is no one going to talk about the fact our infantry and cavalry generals are keep up with Napoleon's rolls, those guys are going to be scary legends with whole chapters in the history book.
Also have to say, if we need food, why not import from America? They grow tons of stuff, even now they can produce a lot of extra food

edit: man it does not pay to be Austria, Prussia, or Italy in this game, France just a keeps kicking you around
 
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Magoose said:
Well lets see.

Taxes have been raised because holy shit we need to pay people... levels of unhappy.

That should answer your question.

Robe is not in England.

If he were, he would be locked up in the Tower of London.
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Ah they want the taxes to be lower so probably stop. But people are very much questioning the government from spending so much money and not getting much done.
 
LordEdric said:
so is no one going to talk about the fact our infantry and cavalry generals are keep up with Napoleon's rolls, those guys are going to be scary legends with whole chapters in the history book.
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Murat was already a legendary cavalry commander in OTL.

Here... he's just got more chances to show it off.

And Severin...

Well he's not doing half bad for an up jumped Sargent
 
Spain is gonna be a interesting situation that's for sure. British and Portugal controlling the Northern part of Spain. France basically controlling the land on its own borders. Then we got Don Carlos controlling the center and bottom of Spain.

What we really need to do is making sure to get local support with the land we got. Hopefully the people remember us keeping them safe during the Civil War and with Pope support helping as well.
 
mrsean22 said:
Spain is gonna be a interesting situation that's for sure. British and Portugal controlling the Northern part of Spain. France basically controlling the land on its own borders. Then we got Don Carlos controlling the center and bottom of Spain.

What we really need to do is making sure to get local support with the land we got. Hopefully the people remember us keeping them safe during the Civil War and with Pope support helping as well.
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Spanish Civil War 0...

How many sides of the civil war do you know about?

We've got a ton. :V

Edit: I mean we already gave some... but it can get worse.
 
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