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I am actually a fan of King Louis... but like, adult Louis, who has a wealth of real word experience. A revolutionary king, if you will.
La Chanson de la Victoire (The Song of Victory): La Petite Arpenteuse (Non, SV, you are a General of France in the Napoleonic War!)
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Well given that Therese is his guardian and given high chance of her marrying Napoleon if they are to adopt him and Charlotte we could see Emperor Louis on the throne in the future .
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THat to, especially men who believe that they are the only ones who can protect "The Republic"
their version of a republic.
Louis: Do you have any idea how much I despise the throne. I'm ready to die if it means not sitting on the throne.
THe problem with this civil war... it can get bad. Very Bad if the rest of Europe decide to bring forward the next coalition to restore the Monarchy come.
And that means shit will get really fucking bad.
While the possibility is small, the recruits know she's the Heroine of Valmy and one of their own. The problem is, they are fresh recruits, so that means they do not have the connection to her like the Vetrans do.
But if you play up to a myth? Your Myth? That is possible.
We don't even know how they plan to reorganize the republic.
It might not be an empire.
Like I said, the ideas of the Revolution, rather then the actual revolution itself.
Well, that's what happens when some people live longer then OTL.
Things get really fucking dicey.
Well the problem is, he still needs to cross the bar first before we can say he's any better.
Well I have a few ideas how to do that, but we can also affect the future constitution, and many other things if possible.
I still think a young louis would see it as being offered a crown.
Correct.
It does not mean we will not see nasty shit to come.
Especially if our dear friends in Britain decide to do some shit.
That too.
Well once again, we can play up the legend.
He's also competent, perhaps not in high command, but he is someone whom can command forces well. If not excelently.
A man that is hard to work with.
THat is really going to help unit cohesion and trust among the Republics' generals.
Correct.
Loyal to the state before anything else. That is a good trait to have.
I would argue he's not doing all this willingly, at least in some way.
He proboly saw what happened to Kellerman and couldn't flee.
Heres hoping we can save Kellerman before he gets sent to the Razor.
We're also possibly one of the most famous people in France, and well known throughout Europe. So it's also that.
General d'Aoust and Pearigon.
THat will be something you can decide.
A Very Dysfunctional one.
Civilians and none combatants will always be a thing, and not even forging an army with a state mentality like Prussia will help with that.
Louis: One more time and I shoot myself.
Vive la France!
The same Brits who were in such a state that they felt that giving up 80 ships and 15 million pounds per annum was preferable to staying at war with France?
Superevent - The French Civil War (Alexander Sturnn)
Superevent - The French Civil War
"Because beautiful things never last. Not roses, nor snow… And not fireworks, either."
―Jennifer Donnelly, Revolution
The End of a Dream
"Because beautiful things never last. Not roses, nor snow… And not fireworks, either."
―Jennifer Donnelly, Revolution
The End of a Dream
A.N.: Not sure if this counts as a Media-Omake, but I wanted to make it anyway even if it doesn't.
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First off it was 40 ships, second off, there is a new government in town in London.
One that is keen to basically say, "Fuck the Treaty, we just needed time to get shit together"
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Well I will not give a reward, but I will threadmark it, because it works.
Fair enough.
Nope, 80. 40 handed over for use and 40 handed over for scrapping.First off it was 40 ships, second off, there is a new government in town in London.
One that is keen to basically say, "Fuck the Treaty, we just needed time to get shit together"
Perfidious Albion, reeking of hypocrisy and treachery as usual.First off it was 40 ships, second off, there is a new government in town in London.
One that is keen to basically say, "Fuck the Treaty, we just needed time to get shit together"
Let's see if they can actually get away with that.
Considering how well they rolled so far... Double the number of ships they lose and create a Scot-Irish independent republic. Let's see them being cheeky when they got a land border to an ally of ours!
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DO NOT PUT LOUIS IN ANY POSITION OF non-military POWER CLOSE TO A MONARCY/IMPERIUM if you don't want him to play Russian Roulette with a musket.
Also, things are going to get really, REALLY dicey in the future...
Also, things are going to get really, REALLY dicey in the future...
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I'm just waiting for Therese returning and going " What. The. FUCK. Are you idiots doing?" And everyone trembling at our dissapointed glare and 50k veteran troops + other 50k that will return soon.
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Inb4 Britain takes over all of India 40 years early.
That is a truth.
we are the mom to the entire French Army now.
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What happened to the veterans?
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They are already joined us.
We probably could.
...Also, I just remembered that @Magoose wrote waaaaay back when a Future!AU-Omake where Therese is present when Napoleon pulls his 'Soldiers, don't you recognize me?'-Move when he returns to France. If we actually manage to pull the same with the Northern Army in this Civil War, I can imagine her in that Future!Au seeing her Husband walk forward, realize what he's about to do and think "Oh great, now he's copying me...".
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Don't get too invested in becoming the head of state: Magoose has stated before that the quest is always going to be about a Marshal in the Napoleonic era, steering the ship of state is never going to be a focus.
Head of the Grand Army, on the other hand...
Head of the Grand Army, on the other hand...
Yeah really it's a given Theresa's side will win in this civil war, it's a question of how much damage is done, and how much everyone else jumps down our throat in the meantime. And what exactly IS our side.
It's notable that while the French government collapsing into civil war like this it's bad for the nation, our personal standing will rise. Moving fresh from victory in Italy to playing kingmaker, literally, in France.
We probably see like the angel of victory to the French public and the military in general. Moving from victory on the battlefield to stopping a civil war. We'll cast a long shadow after this whatever happens.
Marrying Napoleon would be a good way to fully cement this and get us an Imperial Regime. Frankly it's rather telling that Napoleonic France did rather well for itself, as did the Imperial Revival under Napoleon the 3rd. Both met defeats, eventually, but achieved fairly impressive results prior to this.
Napoleon has given up hope for the republic, and I don't see him stopping short of a full autocratic powers for himself. Trying to moderate him seems the only bet for curbing his ambitions short of removing him from power himself something best done as a his spouse.
As others have noted we'd be a poor choice for administration ourselves, but that's a thing you can delegate.
It's notable that while the French government collapsing into civil war like this it's bad for the nation, our personal standing will rise. Moving fresh from victory in Italy to playing kingmaker, literally, in France.
We probably see like the angel of victory to the French public and the military in general. Moving from victory on the battlefield to stopping a civil war. We'll cast a long shadow after this whatever happens.
Marrying Napoleon would be a good way to fully cement this and get us an Imperial Regime. Frankly it's rather telling that Napoleonic France did rather well for itself, as did the Imperial Revival under Napoleon the 3rd. Both met defeats, eventually, but achieved fairly impressive results prior to this.
Napoleon has given up hope for the republic, and I don't see him stopping short of a full autocratic powers for himself. Trying to moderate him seems the only bet for curbing his ambitions short of removing him from power himself something best done as a his spouse.
As others have noted we'd be a poor choice for administration ourselves, but that's a thing you can delegate.
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I just hope that we are able to put an end to Robespierre's treason quickly, before our enemies are able to take advantage of the matter. Napoleon can be Emperor of France after this because clearly we can't have nice things like democracy right now. At least we'll probably be able to get him to write up a constitution to avoid power abuses down the line. Maybe. Hopefully.
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The problems are twofold: 1. What's France to be like after Napoleon leaves power? 2. What's going to stop Napoleon from getting steamrolled once everyone else in Europe learns from his reforms and leverages their economic superiority?
Fix these and things are pretty well settled.