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I don't feel inclined to be so generous to the Austrians and Prussians this time.
La Chanson de la Victoire (The Song of Victory): La Petite Arpenteuse (Non, SV, you are a General of France in the Napoleonic War!)
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Neither is Talleyrand.
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Don't forget diplomatic victory, from one perspective they played both sides, from other they are such an important player that both sides still need to come to terms with them which basically leaves them with everything that they aimed form.
They are still good with Austrian/Prussian court's, while not destroying the relationship with the French.
You know that Spanish monarchy passed reforms to end caste system and even allow creation of new elites right? This is not New Spain from otl , so it's kinda to early to assume that Bolivar will rebel against the crown in this tl. There is actually good chance to see Bolivar rising in service of the crown here.
Especially since New Spain doesn't have any immediate treats to it's safety and USA is looking to be busy with British for quite some time. Both sides actually escalated their differences outside of historic proportions. USA for one won't have benefits of isolation in this one, they already got involved and now they will be forced to play the great power game as every major power takes them in their calculations. Especially with somewhat stable southern neighbor to rival them, which effectively ends their otl advantageous position.
On second hand there no reason for New Spain not to go at least way of Russia in continuity and modernization at which point it should be hard to end it without some major external factors.
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Have the American come in to war now? I mean they just humiliated the British on the Home Islands. I don't think GB can let this insult lie
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They have. Though their objectives are only to rescue kidnapped people and recover stolen property.
They are doing it precisely because they really... got forced to get involved.
And hey, manifest destiny and an advantageous position is still a thing.
The thing to note:
New Spain, despite early successes and a shake up in leadership, is still very unstable.
It would take decades for it to fully fix itself.
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Now that we have peace and will get a lot of gold we could try to import some food?
Better safe than sorry after all.
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Austria and Prussia need to pay significantly for their actions this time. Especially since France has suffered for so long from it and is on the brink of famine.
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So, we're fucked food wise. Hm... Best ask for reparations in foodstuffs for declaring war on us after signing a peace treaty.
As for perfidious Albion, they're doing decently on land, but getting absolutely wrecked at sea. Which is problematic for them as it's what's standing between them and continental powers.
As for perfidious Albion, they're doing decently on land, but getting absolutely wrecked at sea. Which is problematic for them as it's what's standing between them and continental powers.
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I say force sharp reparations on them, that stops them from reinvesting in their military and buys us time and gives us gold to rebuild and buy food.
I think something is missing?
Well looks like the British and Portugal are staying in Spain to hold it. No idea how they convinced anyone they are the good guys. I very much doubt they are gonna want peace so we got to prepare for a campaign in Spain.
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This got cut off
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*Glares*
Oh no, we are fine for now Magoose said.
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No, we need reparations in money , that way we can harm Austria and Prussia effectively while using said money to buy food from somewhere else and buy friendship/influence through trade in the process.
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GEORGE WASHINGTON*: Alright, fuck it all! Global hegemony, two centuries early, let's go!
*Who, I'm reliably informed, is twelve stories tall and made of radiation.
*Who, I'm reliably informed, is twelve stories tall and made of radiation.
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Washington is ready to defend America.
With the war coming to an end for the most part except Spain the food situation should improve from the armies not gonna be needing it soon but should still try improving the food situation for future use.
Sucks that the situation in India is turning British. Like how bad is it exactly? Like what about the French there?
Sucks that the situation in India is turning British. Like how bad is it exactly? Like what about the French there?
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The sultan our one guy who could defeat the British was killed in battle.
So they have to odessy their way back home
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Wait he's not dead yet? I thought he would have had an aneurysm by this point considering the bullshit of the Great Powers
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He hasn't had his accident yet.
New Spain and USA aren't happy with the British that's for sure. The British are being humiliated in the New World so I'm expecting them to get back at them soon. Heck the British are trying to take Spain which probably pisses New Spain off even more. So yeah big war in the New World soon.
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I mean it's true, but they have advantageous position similar to US and time.
US for one is quite far from the point where it will be able to extert American hegemony, not to mention it got itself involved in world politics (despite the lucky rolls and memes this war will probably cost US far more than victory will) and other potential threats like British for example are busy with more pressing matters like Europe, India and US. French are the same , they are busy with Europe and if they win they will spend decades in integrating their European conquest.
Basically new Spain is good for now.
Actually given their losses in Americas and victories in India/Spain, plus situation in France it's quite possible for them to accept white peace and refocus on conquest of India, putting Americas back in place and integrating their Spanish conquest in Portugal to create decent buffer in Iberia.
After all we all know peace is temporary, but we also know that both sides need it.
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We'll have lots of fun things ahead about the politics…
and fun things are happening.
also lots of people getting batons.
The marshal one after all…
and boys you can influence who gets a baton.
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We are all trying to get piece of Spain and remember, Spanish monarchy pretty much left Spain. If they are smart they'll probably deescalate and focus internally. Until now it looked like they are smart and there not much they can do in Spain anyway as it will either be in British, or French hands. No point in fighting others wars when they know that Spain is lost, but empire remains!
Edit: they are in no state to fight a prestige war, they can strike back at their enemies only in long term, but in short term they must swallow their pride and go on defensive fighting for realistic goals.
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Hope that soon we can officially put an end to these wars. I'm sure the British would be more than happy to sit on their island and watch France starve to death but they've got their own issues right now. Honestly it feels like the costs of continuing this are astronomically high compared to the benefits, for all sides. The Russians were smart to take their money and go home.