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I'm a High Fantasy Tax Collector, So What? A CKII Tax Collector Quest

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Sirrocco said:
I'd rather not burn Emir's favor on asking him to do something that will rub salt into his wounds, so the other "where can my family go" option is the Countess.
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Huh... I am not so concerned about the favour. It'd be nice to keep, but favours don't store well, and this is not a small ask. Then again... two birds with one stone... I doubt that we would trust Countess Natalia with our colony, not from ill-will so much as carelessness and a general "loose lips" policy but.... We don't need to be open. We just need some land out in the boonies, there should be plenty of ways to swing that. We don't want it to be tied too closely to us, lest our enemies investigate, but what could Kerrie do as a provisional title-holder? Obviously a pointless scam to gain false legitimacy for her via buying some dirt-cheap... dirt... that one of our friends wasn't using. No need to investigate the site if it is just a technicality on the books to make one of our subordinates The Grand Interim Lord of Boring Hill #42?

Or, umm, well... Can, perhaps, someone who is better at this than me, or just has a good idea, think of a good way to ask Countess Natalia to host our colony without asking her to host our colony and without painting a target on the plot of land that we are apparently interested in? A good start might be to not actually be interested in any specific plot of land... Unless we can expend our interest in it? Perhaps investigate some ruin or some such and 'leave' when it is fully documented?

huhYeahGoodPoint said:
Which interlude are you talking about?
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With Nothing but a Gesture. And rereading it, and putting it into perspective of this most recent chat? Yikes! Not nice at all of The Spirits to use Emir like that. Sending one last-vestige against another...
 
Aunty Shi Ping said:
Huh... I am not so concerned about the favour. It'd be nice to keep, but favours don't store well, and this is not a small ask. Then again... two birds with one stone... I doubt that we would trust Countess Natalia with our colony, not from ill-will so much as carelessness and a general "loose lips" policy but.... We don't need to be open. We just need some land out in the boonies, there should be plenty of ways to swing that. We don't want it to be tied too closely to us, lest our enemies investigate, but what could Kerrie do as a provisional title-holder? Obviously a pointless scam to gain false legitimacy for her via buying some dirt-cheap... dirt... that one of our friends wasn't using. No need to investigate the site if it is just a technicality on the books to make one of our subordinates The Grand Interim Lord of Boring Hill #42?

Or, umm, well... Can, perhaps, someone who is better at this than me, or just has a good idea, think of a good way to ask Countess Natalia to host our colony without asking her to host our colony and without painting a target on the plot of land that we are apparently interested in? A good start might be to not actually be interested in any specific plot of land... Unless we can expend our interest in it? Perhaps investigate some ruin or some such and 'leave' when it is fully documented?


With Nothing but a Gesture. And rereading it, and putting it into perspective of this most recent chat? Yikes! Not nice at all of The Spirits to use Emir like that. Sending one last-vestige against another...
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That is impressive indeed.
 
Aunty Shi Ping said:
With Nothing but a Gesture. And rereading it, and putting it into perspective of this most recent chat? Yikes! Not nice at all of The Spirits to use Emir like that. Sending one last-vestige against another...
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huhYeahGoodPoint said:
That is impressive indeed.
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What I got from this exchange:
1. Aunty Shi Ping is psychic.
2. Tara is a dragon.
3. Dragons can look human.
4. Tara still doesn't emit the raw power that the 4 pillars do. Either she's a very weak dragon, they're even more absurdly powerful than you'd expect, or her power emission is being dampened somehow.
 
Sentient Tree said:
What I got from this exchange:
1. Aunty Shi Ping is psychic.
2. Tara is a dragon.
3. Dragons can look human.
4. Tara still doesn't emit the raw power that the 4 pillars do. Either she's a very weak dragon, they're even more absurdly powerful than you'd expect, or her power emission is being dampened somehow.
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I believe she's the child of the dragon that Emir killed. Emir is making a statement by adopting her.
 
Sentient Tree said:
3. Dragons can look human.
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huhYeahGoodPoint said:
You shush her with a ray of fire. You tune her yips out with a dismissive thought, rationalizing that if she was the true dragon she should have been, she would not have been hurt by such a light rebuke
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It may be less of an ability dragons possess so much as a consequence of her circumstances. The obvious would be parentage, what with it sounding as though dragons are rarer than they once were, and it being a bit of a default assumption. Lots of options exist though, differing parentage could be a ways up the family line, or it could be a curse or blessing from some spirit, or perhaps a random mutation or magical experiment, or perhaps the local version of "you are what you eat" is a bit more aggressive...
 
[X] Countess Natalia
[X] Lilliane Cecille - Intrigue
[X] Ophelia - Oskaria
 
Aunty Shi Ping said:
Huh... I am not so concerned about the favour. It'd be nice to keep, but favours don't store well, and this is not a small ask. Then again... two birds with one stone... I doubt that we would trust Countess Natalia with our colony, not from ill-will so much as carelessness and a general "loose lips" policy but.... We don't need to be open. We just need some land out in the boonies, there should be plenty of ways to swing that. We don't want it to be tied too closely to us, lest our enemies investigate, but what could Kerrie do as a provisional title-holder? Obviously a pointless scam to gain false legitimacy for her via buying some dirt-cheap... dirt... that one of our friends wasn't using. No need to investigate the site if it is just a technicality on the books to make one of our subordinates The Grand Interim Lord of Boring Hill #42?

Or, umm, well... Can, perhaps, someone who is better at this than me, or just has a good idea, think of a good way to ask Countess Natalia to host our colony without asking her to host our colony and without painting a target on the plot of land that we are apparently interested in? A good start might be to not actually be interested in any specific plot of land... Unless we can expend our interest in it? Perhaps investigate some ruin or some such and 'leave' when it is fully documented?
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Okay... I think you may be missing some stuff.

The "Colony" in this case consists of a largish number of spider-people who are also our extended family. Anyone who looks at us and looks at them is going to instantly assume that we are, in fact, tied pretty darned closely. Further, I'm pretty sure that keeping it entirely quiet isn't an option. My impression is that the colony is non-small, and I'll bet that they're at least somewhat trade-dependent at this point. Fortunately, it *is* reasonably safe for them in Oskaria these days (and our service to the crown is one of the things that keeps that ball rolling) but it's *not* safe on the border if the border is about to become not-Oskaria. Thus we need to find some lord or other who likes us enough that we can convince them to accept some arachnid immigrants. If the local lord accepts them, and we can get tot he point that the other locals are cool with them, and we can get them out of their current situation and moved and set them up in a place where they can slot productively in the local economy, then we should be okay. These things are not trivial, however, which is why we're taking a year off for it.

@huhYeahGoodPoint is this more or less accurate?

I admit that I could be completely confused on one or more major points here.
 
Sirrocco said:
Okay... I think you may be missing some stuff.

The "Colony" in this case consists of a largish number of spider-people who are also our extended family. Anyone who looks at us and looks at them is going to instantly assume that we are, in fact, tied pretty darned closely. Further, I'm pretty sure that keeping it entirely quiet isn't an option. My impression is that the colony is non-small, and I'll bet that they're at least somewhat trade-dependent at this point. Fortunately, it *is* reasonably safe for them in Oskaria these days (and our service to the crown is one of the things that keeps that ball rolling) but it's *not* safe on the border if the border is about to become not-Oskaria. Thus we need to find some lord or other who likes us enough that we can convince them to accept some arachnid immigrants. If the local lord accepts them, and we can get tot he point that the other locals are cool with them, and we can get them out of their current situation and moved and set them up in a place where they can slot productively in the local economy, then we should be okay. These things are not trivial, however, which is why we're taking a year off for it.

@huhYeahGoodPoint is this more or less accurate?

I admit that I could be completely confused on one or more major points here.
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Nailed it. Part of the trick will be convincing the necessary bondholders, but broadly speaking, yes.
 
Byzantine said:
I believe she's the child of the dragon that Emir killed. Emir is making a statement by adopting her.
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Her being the child of the dead dragon would make a lot of sense, but really... it's not about the statement. I'd bet that almost no one knows who the heck she is, or that he's a dragon, or a bunch of other stuff that would be necessary for "I'm adopting the daughter of the dragon I killed" to be a coherent statement that they could draw implications from. He might be making a statement to certain of the major spirits. Instead, what it mostly is is him standing up on a stage where he has a lot of in-the-moment social standing, and also a strong noble title, and also everyone knows he's kind of a badass and not to be messed with, and he's declaring her his heir, and therefore profoundly under his protection and likewise not to be messed with. He's spent a decent chunk of political resource for it, but the resource he was spending was transient anyway, and what he gets out of it is that no one can mess with her, basically in any way, without insulting him in an obvious enough fashion that he can demand satisfaction... after it's just been made clear that he has a good chance of being able to kill just about anyone in the room if he set his mind to it. He's buying her the strongest protections he can give. They still have no idea who she is or why he did it, but no one can deny that he did it, and that has implications.
 
[X] Lilliane Cecille - Intrigue
[X] Lilliane Cecille - Reporting
[X] Emir Valois

I have changed my mind due to the discussion.
It would be rude to if someone offers to help to then go to a completely different person, and ask that different person to do something like it. And asking help from somebody whom we helped in the passed, can create the appearance of a conflict of interest.
 
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