- Location
- New York
[X] The Meeting
[X] Antonin Perrier
[X] Lucilius Sarkozy
[X] Antonin Perrier
[X] Lucilius Sarkozy
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I'm a High Fantasy Tax Collector, So What? A CKII Tax Collector Quest
- Thread starter hYGP
- Start date
- Original Fantasy
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- Tags
- death ck2 quest all proceeds go to real spiders are we revolutionaries or reactionaries today criminal justice discussion makes the gm fuzzy don't count your boats before they sail granary management if i lose my meows get me likes to replace them justice spider knock knock it's the finance ministry meows for discussion while supplies last taxation taxes this is not an empire quest
- Location
- ?
[] Emir Valois
Something about this man bothers you, and when you advanced towards him, he decided to make contact as well, inviting you to a walk.
[x] Antonin Perrier
You decide to go connect with the King's Pillar that you know better, and he seemed to be friendly to your approach. Maybe you can catch up on the events of the past years.
[x] Countess Natalia
It's been a year, and you were quite impressed with her work the last time you visited her province - you'd like to know how she's doing now.
[] Ophelia
You wonder how she is adapting to the pressures of the reception - perhaps it would be best to check in on her.
[] The Meeting
Ioann Kirilov, the red spear-wielder, and other foreign dignitaries are meeting together. Find out what they're talking about. Intrigue: 30 or Stewardship: 27.
[] Lilliane Cecille
Quite aside from your professional loathing of this woman, she made quite a few attempts to distance herself from the King. Find out why. Intrigue: 29.
[] The Spirits
You know there are spirits here, some of them quite powerful - perhaps this is an opportunity to secure a tentative agreement? Piety: 28.
[] The Nobles
There is also a vast collection of nobles here, and where there's nobles, there's gossip and blackmail to be found. Intrigue: 20.
[x] The Learned
Among the notables called up to this reception include many learned but not noble citizens, a source of wealth and legal information in their own right - and it certainly would help to discuss things. Diplomacy: 20.
[] Besim Rosenberg
You spot one Besim Rosenberg at this assembly, and worse, you think he's spotted you too. Ugh. Best to deal with this interaction as efficiently as possible. Diplomacy: 35.
[] Lucilius Sarkozy
He eyes you with an undisguised contempt, but you have something more valuable - ironclad proof of his crimes. You have the chance to cut him a deal in order to make sure that the Crown sti
Something about this man bothers you, and when you advanced towards him, he decided to make contact as well, inviting you to a walk.
[x] Antonin Perrier
You decide to go connect with the King's Pillar that you know better, and he seemed to be friendly to your approach. Maybe you can catch up on the events of the past years.
[x] Countess Natalia
It's been a year, and you were quite impressed with her work the last time you visited her province - you'd like to know how she's doing now.
[] Ophelia
You wonder how she is adapting to the pressures of the reception - perhaps it would be best to check in on her.
[] The Meeting
Ioann Kirilov, the red spear-wielder, and other foreign dignitaries are meeting together. Find out what they're talking about. Intrigue: 30 or Stewardship: 27.
[] Lilliane Cecille
Quite aside from your professional loathing of this woman, she made quite a few attempts to distance herself from the King. Find out why. Intrigue: 29.
[] The Spirits
You know there are spirits here, some of them quite powerful - perhaps this is an opportunity to secure a tentative agreement? Piety: 28.
[] The Nobles
There is also a vast collection of nobles here, and where there's nobles, there's gossip and blackmail to be found. Intrigue: 20.
[x] The Learned
Among the notables called up to this reception include many learned but not noble citizens, a source of wealth and legal information in their own right - and it certainly would help to discuss things. Diplomacy: 20.
[] Besim Rosenberg
You spot one Besim Rosenberg at this assembly, and worse, you think he's spotted you too. Ugh. Best to deal with this interaction as efficiently as possible. Diplomacy: 35.
[] Lucilius Sarkozy
He eyes you with an undisguised contempt, but you have something more valuable - ironclad proof of his crimes. You have the chance to cut him a deal in order to make sure that the Crown sti
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- Location
- Belgium
[X] The Meeting
[X] The Learned
[X] Emir Valois
[X] The Learned
[X] Emir Valois
- Location
- Somewhere over the rainbow
Fair point - I should probably go back At Some Point TM and add it.
This thing is broken up into a few scenes; scenes 1 and 2 are watching the team's daily life, and also going to visit an overly greedy tax inspector to terrify them into compliance.
Scene 3 is a meeting with a Minister of the Interior, one of the things that you're supposedly here to deal with.
The Minister of the Interior, on the surface, wants you to investigate what the foreign dignitaries are chatting about, because in the Venn diagram of "who is trustworthy" and "who has the skills necessary to pull this off" you are like the dot in the middle of the overlap. You, naturally, agree to this assignment.
Under the surface, the Minister of the Interior attempted to slight you at every opportunity she could (I can write up a post later explaining all of the ones I packed in there) and emphasize her power over you, a suggestion you did not take particularly kindly. She then decided that having attempted to subtly browbeat you into compliance, she would order you to investigate and report back to her, not the Crown - and your rejoinder was that you would be a resolute professional in service of the King, not her.
Scene 4 is the thing you're nominally here to observe, and it's mostly introducing some characters that you would absolutely know and hear about - whether they interact with your job later, well, that's going to be a question you're going to want to leave for later. The only real unexpected things were seeing Emir Valois knight Tara Valois personally, and then rather than finishing with a knighting and a swearing into the household, he actually adopted Tara wholesale into the Valois - the rest was mostly the expected fare.
Yes, your items will apply their bonuses to the rolls against DCs.
It's small, but the effect is there, and it grows especially strong when Agueda uses the Eye Approaching Divinity - though, of course, that is more along the lines of "I see you and comprehend your existence."
In terms of raw magical power that spirits have...depends. The really upper tier spirits like Justice and Order don't bother with converters because they simply are - but at the same time, that conceptual weight means that while they've transcended numbers they become more directly vulnerable to conceptual weaknesses, more specialized in their task. The lower tier spirits, on the other hand, could benefit from converters - but the upper-tier mortals will get more out of the converter items than the weaker spirits.
In short, there are big gods who need no converters, the big people who can make a high score absolutely disgusting with those converters, and the small gods who cannot use the converters to the same level of power.
Chimeraguard
We do deserve to exist.
[X] The Meeting
[X] The Nobles
[X] Lucilius Sarkozy
Since items still count, I think we already pass the Stewardship DC for the meeting, so I want to look into that.
Plus, we were assigned to keep an eye on the foreign dignitaries, many of whom are in that meeting.
[X] The Nobles
[X] Lucilius Sarkozy
Since items still count, I think we already pass the Stewardship DC for the meeting, so I want to look into that.
Plus, we were assigned to keep an eye on the foreign dignitaries, many of whom are in that meeting.
Is it really a good idea to cut the deal with Sarkozy here? There's a lot of important people and therefore spies and agents here, and I don't think a tax assessor cutting a plea deal with someone he accused is 100% above board. If someone listens in, could they use it against Agueda?
Solarstream
It's all in the cards
- Location
- Zombie World
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] Antonin Perrier
[X] Emir Valois
[X] The Learned
[X] Emir Valois
[X] The Learned
- Location
- Southampton, Great Britain
- Pronouns
- He/Him
That is pretty much how it works in this country given the universal corruption. Honestly, the thing that would raise eyebrows would be that we are only doing it to save ourselves time and effort rather than taking advantage of the situation to personally profit from it.
So to answer this,
I say no unless it is part of something larger against us. It isn't enough on its own and the only way I can see it being used against us would be if they got a bunch of other things against us to go with it.
- Location
- The state of Paranoia
I guess I'll ask the obvious question. What does this mean politically?
Someone other than the king is knighting someone? I would think that this would be pretty significant, either showing just how important this guy is or showing the king as weak. Since the king came himself it's not an usurpation of the king's power, which means this is basically showing just how incredibly important this guy is?
I guess that checks out, considering he single-handedly killed a dragon.
The adoption is also interesting. Who is this Tara Valios? She's not as 'casually powerful' as the king's pillars, but she's powerful enough to keep her magic armor running continuously. Perhaps a trusted subordinate of Emir who distinguished herself during the battle? Did she save his life, perhaps? Is she just someone he really likes as a person?
Or perhaps is Emir a noble who is incapable of creating an heir? If that was the case, adopting a capable subordinate to become your heir might make sense, especially with his newfound importance preventing backlash from other nobility.
- Location
- Somewhere over the rainbow
The nobility knighting people is not super unusual - what is unusual is doing it in front of basically all the notables in the kingdom, and advertising it as a Super Important Event TM. What makes it extra confusing is that apparently nobody has heard of who this Tara Valois is - that red armor is rather unforgettable with how much it crackles with red lightning all over. Added text to make it clear.
This has been a deeply strange series of events, apparently. Emir Valois has always had somewhat of a reputation for a loner, but to then turn around and adopt a knight in distinctive red armor that no one has seen before literally every noble in the kingdom is perplexing, to say the least. It is the most common talk in this reception, and you suspect it will be for a quite a while after that.
- Location
- Attached to a wall
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Help! I reincarnated into another world, but the tax inspector couldn't find my social security number.
- Location
- Pittsburgh PA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] Antonin Perrier
[X] Lucilius Sarkozy
[X] The Meeting
[X] Lucilius Sarkozy
[X] The Meeting
- Location
- La La Land
[X] Antonin Perrier
[X] Emir Valois
[X] The Meeting
Now is really not the best time to cut a deal. I'd rather establish a contact in the King's Pillar, which we will need if we ever want to sort out what's going on in there, meet the new King-to-be to figure out who the heck he is and what kind of person he is, and The Meeting to get a bead on how other nations are reacting to everything that's going down in ours. If y'all ever wanna pull off this revolution thing, then we're going to need to find some nation(s) to be the France to our America and support us during the war. We also need to look for soldiers from the failed dragon war to recruit. A lot of American Revolutionary soldiers came from veterans of the French-Indian war after all. We're also going to need to find our version of Baron Friedrich Wilhelm von Steuben to write an drill manual so as to get all militias absorbed into the hypothetical army up to shape in a fast and efficient manner. In general, we're gonna need to do negotiating with a lot of foreign powers if we ever want to get the revolution off the ground... and make sure that if it's successful we have allies that will deter anyone from intervening in the Royalist's favor and that no nations will try and take advantage of our new government when we just start to stabilize things.
Also, another point in favor of talking with Emir is that if he turns out to be a less than stellar person, then we will have more of a cause for revolution than we would if he was a swell guy. If the latter is true, then we may need to consider not doing a full revolutionary war and keeping the royal line as a more ceremonial role like in modern day Britain. Then we could just get a Parliament and Prime Minister to do the actual governing.
[X] Emir Valois
[X] The Meeting
Now is really not the best time to cut a deal. I'd rather establish a contact in the King's Pillar, which we will need if we ever want to sort out what's going on in there, meet the new King-to-be to figure out who the heck he is and what kind of person he is, and The Meeting to get a bead on how other nations are reacting to everything that's going down in ours. If y'all ever wanna pull off this revolution thing, then we're going to need to find some nation(s) to be the France to our America and support us during the war. We also need to look for soldiers from the failed dragon war to recruit. A lot of American Revolutionary soldiers came from veterans of the French-Indian war after all. We're also going to need to find our version of Baron Friedrich Wilhelm von Steuben to write an drill manual so as to get all militias absorbed into the hypothetical army up to shape in a fast and efficient manner. In general, we're gonna need to do negotiating with a lot of foreign powers if we ever want to get the revolution off the ground... and make sure that if it's successful we have allies that will deter anyone from intervening in the Royalist's favor and that no nations will try and take advantage of our new government when we just start to stabilize things.
Also, another point in favor of talking with Emir is that if he turns out to be a less than stellar person, then we will have more of a cause for revolution than we would if he was a swell guy. If the latter is true, then we may need to consider not doing a full revolutionary war and keeping the royal line as a more ceremonial role like in modern day Britain. Then we could just get a Parliament and Prime Minister to do the actual governing.
Sirrocco
Pedantic
[X] Besim Rosenberg
[X] Lucilius Sarkozy
[X] The Meeting
Meeting is obvious. Sarkozy? Mostly to help get that whole thing off our plate. Seriously, though, we need to start punishing Besim. He's a guy with a lot of influence but a poor statline who's been a thorn in our side for entirely too long and he keeps cropping up to mess things up for us. For one thing, that means that he's reasonably likely to try to pull something here again. For another, and more importantly, here he is vulnerable. Here he's a small and incompetent fish in a large pond and if we can make him screw up under his own power there's a nontrivial chance that some greater noble will just casually crush him for us. This sort of meeting is one where guys like Besim can take damage.
[X] Lucilius Sarkozy
[X] The Meeting
Meeting is obvious. Sarkozy? Mostly to help get that whole thing off our plate. Seriously, though, we need to start punishing Besim. He's a guy with a lot of influence but a poor statline who's been a thorn in our side for entirely too long and he keeps cropping up to mess things up for us. For one thing, that means that he's reasonably likely to try to pull something here again. For another, and more importantly, here he is vulnerable. Here he's a small and incompetent fish in a large pond and if we can make him screw up under his own power there's a nontrivial chance that some greater noble will just casually crush him for us. This sort of meeting is one where guys like Besim can take damage.
- Location
- Southampton, Great Britain
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Twice. He has caused trouble for us twice over the course of the quest.
I am also sceptical of him having a poor statline as I cannot remember that coming up at all. I would advise against considering him to be "a small and incompetent fish" because I can't think of anything to backup that assessment.
cokerpilot
Here comes the rain.
[x] Emir Valois
- Location
- Omniverse #1345
Also dealing with him has a beyond-divine DC so it's practically impossible.
THE RED KNIGHT I ROLL CALL
- Location
- Somewhere over the rainbow
For the first night, The Meeting, Antonin Perrier, and Lucilius Sarkozy wins.
Roll me 5d100s.
Intrigue: The Meeting: DC: 30. Base Stat: 22 + 2.
Stewardship: The Meeting: DC: 27. Base Stat: 23 + 4.3.
Diplomacy: Lucilius Sarkozy: DC: 24. Base Stat: 20 + 2.
Antonin Response
Random Event Roll (Due to being part of Events, Random Event Rolls are significantly weaker, so feel free to relax 🐱)
Roll me 5d100s.
Intrigue: The Meeting: DC: 30. Base Stat: 22 + 2.
Stewardship: The Meeting: DC: 27. Base Stat: 23 + 4.3.
Diplomacy: Lucilius Sarkozy: DC: 24. Base Stat: 20 + 2.
Antonin Response
Random Event Roll (Due to being part of Events, Random Event Rolls are significantly weaker, so feel free to relax 🐱)
Here you go
Chimeraguard
We do deserve to exist.
Eh, guess I'm up for the diplomacy then.
Edit: Not bad, not bad at all.
Edit: Not bad, not bad at all.