Alivaril
On a magically-deficient journey of self-discovery
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Because my phone and I are not on speaking terms right now. (Pun not intended)
Ignition (MTG/Multicross, Planeswalker PC)
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Because my phone and I are not on speaking terms right now. (Pun not intended)
Sooo... Jeanne D'Arc? *Hates Boats => British* *Lorelle => French*
Also, did you write that on your phone? Egads man!
Also, did you write that on your phone? Egads man!
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Do we really keep our privacy, if Kubes gets to listen in?
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Telepathy is handy, but yeah, kind of totally insecure. Honestly our PMs on MGN are probably a little better, in that at least it's only other magical girls spying on us instead of bunnycats. (Unless the forum is run by bunnycats.)
Stahor
BookWorm
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- Russia, Moscow
Do we have IC reason to hide communications from QB?
Also he clearly reads our messages. We be no more or less secure if we talk in person or by text.
Akasha
The Only Truth
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...Why would you waste a wish on becoming a huge and slow target with a glaring weak spot in the form of the only part of you that is not your body - the soul gem?
In fact, why would you do that before you even learn any MTG magic? It should increase our potential, and the more potential a wish requires, the less maximum power is left for the magical girl.
Ergo, if we gain more magical potential before we make a wish as stupid as becoming a dragon, we'll have more potential left to use as actual magical power.
In fact, why would you do that before you even learn any MTG magic? It should increase our potential, and the more potential a wish requires, the less maximum power is left for the magical girl.
Ergo, if we gain more magical potential before we make a wish as stupid as becoming a dragon, we'll have more potential left to use as actual magical power.
QB is always watching you. Always.
... We're not getting MTG magic. We're getting PMMM magic that will act like MTG magic. Avivaril has gone over this.
Also, Breath Of Fire (3) style Dragons? Or if we can only have one form, Warrior/Myrmidon style?
Akasha
The Only Truth
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...He did?
Huh.
I must've screwed up my Perception check.
...Still don't like the idea of wasting a wish on stupid things.
*Stupid Wish* *Getting Scales, Dragon Breath, Claws, Wings, enhanced senses, etc.* U wot m8? When we're going to be fighting Witches, I'd hardly call that stupid.
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If our characterization is being decided by discussion, then we're clearly unreasonably paranoid to start with. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, you know? It's a dangerous world and lots of people are out to get us, so if we're a bit slow to open up to people because we've effectively taken paranoia as a character flaw that's acceptable.
Every magical girl has a glaring weakspot. Sayaka had it in freaking center mass, right where someone would be shooting anyway.
But if it's like, bonded to our hand Homura style? And we're a large dragon? And anyone fighting us has to aim at a small point on one of our extremities? Less of a target then you'd think. It's hard to hit with precision on something moving.
Also, you know, Red doesn't really do slow things. Even the big ones are pretty likely to have Haste or something similar, and dragons can probably move pretty quickly once they're in the air. Even if our potential is only enough to give us like a combat form (wings and fireballs we can throw?) we're likely to gain access to magic to make ourselves faster.
LostDeviljho
Flame Dragon Princess
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- Any
...I never said what's in that quote. where'd you get that?
No, actually, he didn't. Unless someone has a cite...
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Akasha
The Only Truth
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Considering that Red Magic focuses on DPS and AOE damage, yes, I don't see any reason to waste a wish on Dragon Breath and Claws. Wings are practically useless with how everyone and everything that can threaten us at all can jump between scyscrapers with ease, and would target them to send us smashing into the ground. Scales only get you so far with how varied the Meguca Bullshit is.
Enhanced senses? Pah. Magic, son. Magic. You don't need to be a dragon to get those.
Why not just wish for some anti-magic bullshit instead?
That way, you have Red Magic and, say, an anti-magic gun. Or sword. Or an anti-magic field.
Or even just wish for the ability to control magic better.
Not master it or anything, just control it better.
Long-term benefits ahoy!
Or wish for some time control bullshit. Not the time-loop-grade of Homura, but maybe slowing stuff down ala Kiriko.
Hell, wish for Precognition of some sort, and you'll have Red Magic, Red Mentality, and (limited) future-sight to tell you which of your decisions are too dumb even for a Red Mage.
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Quoted the post above yours but deleted the first part by mistake, and then went back to get it and copied the wrong person's quote. Woops!
[X] Accept Jeanne's invitation and head over there now. There's no reason to procrastinate.
-[X] Thank Kyubey for his concern anyway.
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Alivaril
On a magically-deficient journey of self-discovery
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I don't think I have, actually. There may be overlap / interaction between your pseudo-MTG magic and Magical Girl abilities (if you do decide to contract), but the former is most definitely not the latter (and vice-versa).
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Also keep in mind, even if we don't wish for it, it's possible that a dragon form could be an endgame MtG ability that we'll find our way to. A wish is more guaranteed, but we can be patient too.
Stahor
BookWorm
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I have no problem with being paranoid.
But QB already reads about what we typing. We won't become less secure using telepathy. Also QB have no problems listening in during meeting in person, so it's also not increasing security.
... All of those are Primarily Blue type magics.
Akasha
The Only Truth
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...So?
The wish doesn't have to be limited to a specific field of magic.
If you decided to focus your MTG magic on one field that is all about DPS, you might as well wish for something that YOU DON'T ALREADY HAVE.
Like, say, something from a different field of magic, that is not available to you.
You don't Wish to learn Fireball if you can learn Fireball on your own.
You Wish to learn Raise Dead, because you decided to specialize in something completely different, and can't get it on your own, but it is still something you want in your arsenal.
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the point is, is that someone blue would think to wish for those things, and we're not.
we're red, and all about impulsiveness and action, and as such "become dragon" is just about the reddest wish we could come up with, and so the most in character. she's not going to wish for something IC that involves sitting around and thinking at our problems, she's far more likely to choose something that involves going out and punching her problem in the face.
put it this way, think of Chandra Nalaar, the face of canon red planeswalkers. if she was going to make a wish, can you see her wishing to be able to out plan her enemies, or do you see her wishing for the ability to turn into a hellkite?
Now, we're not full-bore mono-red, but we only just got through a vote that confirms that the majority of voters don't want to play another SV protag type 1, "person who outsmarts all their problems like a blue mage", so even if we could make it be in character, I still wouldn't want to drag us back into playing the same thing as everything else, but with more dakka.
Akasha
The Only Truth
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...Ugh.
And this is why I hate playing as a Red character.
When a quest has such a character, it gives the voters the excuse to make dumb choices and completely ignore all consequences and planning - even OOC.
"Hey, why did you jump off of that bridge instead of walking off the stairs, and broke your legs?"
"Red Passion, Emotion, Impulsiveness and David Cage, son!
I don't do stupid stairs! I want to get down so I can hit stuff, and this was faster! Stupid legs betrayed me!
Now let us proceed to start these negotiations by punching and threatening everyone present."
In a PMMM quest, that's a recipe for disaster.
And this is why I hate playing as a Red character.
When a quest has such a character, it gives the voters the excuse to make dumb choices and completely ignore all consequences and planning - even OOC.
"Hey, why did you jump off of that bridge instead of walking off the stairs, and broke your legs?"
"Red Passion, Emotion, Impulsiveness and David Cage, son!
I don't do stupid stairs! I want to get down so I can hit stuff, and this was faster! Stupid legs betrayed me!
Now let us proceed to start these negotiations by punching and threatening everyone present."
In a PMMM quest, that's a recipe for disaster.
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And now you're being an asshole.
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I think ideally the wish should be for something that we couldn't replicate with MtG mana of any color, if we're that focused on avoiding redundancies. Dragon sort of counts because while it's technically possible, it's not like it was a really common effect. I can see why people would rather go for something else to cover weaknesses though.
Raising the dead also works (although I doubt our potential allows for that? I've never seen anything in pmmm settings doing it. Even Madokami at full bore had to time travel and prevent deaths, not resurrections).
Healing is pretty much right out, since we can almost certainly splash White for that, or find a magical girl to join our team who can do it. Just wishing for being able to shoot fire or make explosions would probably also be silly, in the same way wishing to be good with weapons would be.
Teleporting might be good? It gives us more options in terms of who to deal with, instead of being stuck with the three girls in our town, and it makes us a pretty valuable asset to the MGN. It's also fairly unlikely to come out of Red or any color we're likely to splash.
Being able to make people happy could be an in character Red thing, maybe? Inspiring teammates and making them as passionate as we are, and so on. That specific kind of thing is less likely to come across as mind control, and it might help us save people from grief spirals as long as we're around.
Raising the dead also works (although I doubt our potential allows for that? I've never seen anything in pmmm settings doing it. Even Madokami at full bore had to time travel and prevent deaths, not resurrections).
Healing is pretty much right out, since we can almost certainly splash White for that, or find a magical girl to join our team who can do it. Just wishing for being able to shoot fire or make explosions would probably also be silly, in the same way wishing to be good with weapons would be.
Teleporting might be good? It gives us more options in terms of who to deal with, instead of being stuck with the three girls in our town, and it makes us a pretty valuable asset to the MGN. It's also fairly unlikely to come out of Red or any color we're likely to splash.
Being able to make people happy could be an in character Red thing, maybe? Inspiring teammates and making them as passionate as we are, and so on. That specific kind of thing is less likely to come across as mind control, and it might help us save people from grief spirals as long as we're around.
Akasha
The Only Truth
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Sorry if I came across as one.
Wasn't my intention.
It just seems to me like that's exactly what's going on here.
The moment Red was chosen, SV abandoned all rational thinking and when it's choices were questioned, it instantly answered with 'Red Magic, son!'.
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