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The_GrandMage said:
[] Plan "Minion"
-[] Attempt to shock Prosthetics back online.
-[] If that fails, write over with a non-sapient functional shard, missing the components necessary to create it's own personality, and with complete trust lock-down to only ourselves.
--[] Give it Dream Master, ability to share dreams we set up and upload to it.
--[] Have it stream share sense with ourselves and the non-sapient Shards we already know are safe to share senses with.
--[] Have it contact and upload all data it collects this way to us, daily. As well as log of Host activities for the day.
-[] Vote on power it enacts under our orders separately.
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I'd be willing to switch my vote from eating Prosthetic to this if we add in the dream about overhearing people discussing Faultline's Crew.

-[ ] Send Trainwreck a dream where he thinks he's woken up to hear a couple of people nearby talking about going to Faultline's club, the Palanquin. One of them should wonder about the ethics of going to a club run by a mercenary. The other responds that at least her crew doesn't kill people like the gangs do. Plus, she takes in "those weird mutated capes with no memories".

I think that it would be a bit riskier than eating Prosthetic, but it's also a good chance to experiment with Administrator's abilities. I'm not sure how sympathetic to feel for Trainwreck if things go wrong because he was willing to work for Coil and join the Merchants as part of that, but at the same time, he hasn't done that NOW. Right now, he's a homeless, starving Case 53. Maybe if we mess up, we can send Veronica after him somehow? I don't really know how.

Also, a lot of people aren't voting. If the problem is that they don't like any of the votes, please speak up and maybe we can find a compromise. I know that Trainwreck's power has been controversial, but we have to spend some info on it for him to live and have a power, and he should be an ongoing source of info. Is there an alternative that you all would prefer instead?
 
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Also, a lot of people aren't voting.
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Don't forget that we still have around a day and a half to vote. They might be waiting until closer to the end to see what things have enough support to actually hold water. to vote for.

Yeah, the dream bit is important, which is why I made sure the lesser fragment would be able to push it in, but I left it as a separate vote entirely to see if the voters might want to split who they want to send him to. Be it PRT/New Wave/Faultline/Coil/Gangs/U&L.

I kind of like the idea of slowly building New Wave up to rival the Protectorate and Empire in strength. Just going from, "Wait, they're still a thing, I thought they retired?" to actually being a movement. Faultline is probably the best choice for him, really, but the idea of him grabbing the name BossRush and joining U&L will always have an Omake in my soul. I might make a specifically non-canon PHO post of reactions to all the various groups he could have joined but didn't. As well as a response to which one he actually joins.
 
I'm still down for Closeted Catgirl Rune-Chan. Thank you for reminding me to vote for that. I believe in a better tomorrow for Sabrina the teenage Nazi. By compromising all her supposed beliefs.

#NewMarche
#PanaceatheMarquess
 
I am actually writing something for that to brain-bleach it out. I may post it when I'm done. We'll see what Vhal thinks.

I blame you for all of this.
#SheStillDoesntGetPanPan
#PettyRevenge
 
I'm telling you, we set up Rune to go for Panacea and hi-jinks ensue. Next thing you know Catgirl Rune is smahing rocks into Lung while Amy absorbs his escalating biomass to grow her biosuit to match. Suddenly, Purity shows up! Lung is beat down, Panacea is now a dragon, and therefore Asian. Oni Lee bows. Carol calls her out, declares she's her fathers daughter in a revelation. New Marche is born! I dig it.
 
Updating my plans

[X] Plan "Waking Dream"
-[X] Eat Prosthetic and give Trainwreck useful Tinker powers as defined in a separate plan.
-[X] Send Trainwreck a dream where he thinks he's woken up to hear a couple of people nearby talking about going to Faultline's club, the Palanquin. One of them should wonder about the ethics of going to a club run by a mercenary. The other responds that at least her crew doesn't kill people like the gangs do. Plus, she takes in "those weird mutated capes with no memories".

[ ] Plan "Support Devices Specialization"
-[ ] Use 160 Tinker info to give Trainwreck Tinker powers with a specialization towards devices that can be used to support people, either by boosting their physical abilities or by limiting them. The devices should have a steampunk theme whenever possible.
-[ ] Use 150 Breaker and 50 Changer info to keep Trainwreck alive.

[X] Stop messing with Charge for now - leave her alone.

[X] Power plan
-[X] Multitasking.
-[X] Breaker 150 + Changer 50 + up to Changer 50 provided by eating Prosthetic.
Power maintains Trainwrecks life in his inhuman form. Interacts with tinker power.
[X] Tinker 160. Vaguely steampunk style. Allows Trainwreck to build up from pretty much scraps and trash. Interacts with breaker power to integrate tech with his inhuman form.

[X] Plan "A Start Towards Fixing Taylor"
-[X] Use our new Human Biology research to scan Taylor for any anomalies.
-[X] Use our new Human Biology research to scan Veronica to see what "peak human" looks like and to get a bonus when researching Basic Host Modification (Human).
-[X] Don't send Taylor a dream, but stop her nightmares so that she can rest peacefully.

[X] Plan Shift V2
-[X] Check in with Shift to make sure things are going well and reassure her that you haven't forgotten her.
--[X] If she's upset that you didn't contact her yesterday, tell her it's because she's doing such a good job that she's becoming a more capable member of the pack.
-[X] Trade Shift 50 Master for 50 brute data. We need it to repair our hosts potential brain damage.
-[X] Loop shift into the data feed from Veronica, to pay it back for looping you into Sophia.

[X] Plan Negotiator V2
-[X] Contact Negotiator to let her know that you're currently evaluating the damaged Shards. You're just doing patch jobs for now while you figure out which Shards are salvageable.
--[X] Let her know that Emote has already been consumed because it was running low on Energy. Prosthetic reacted badly to the Standard Information Packet, but you have a plan!
-[X] "Negotiator, I want to make sure we understand each other. If, for example, a host was to say 'Meh, I can take her' right before battle, how would they fare?"

[X] Plan Don't Do That
-[X] Send Veronica a dream of her throwing a blast at someone that kills them because it was more powerful than expected.
--[X] Hopefully, this inspires her to test out her powers safely.

[X] Plan Don't Hurt Yourself
-[X] If we get brute data from shift, start Host Modification.
-[X] If not, start Stabilize Trigger.
-[X] Continue researching Focused Research.

[X] Plan Gaea
-[X] Finish what we didn't get too last time. Tell Gaea about symbiotic biosuit idea to compensate for her hosts fragility and to provide new means of data collection without a second trigger.
-[X] Offer to share senses.

[X] Rune should go after Panacea for catgirl mods. Rune should totally turn out to be in the closet. Hijinks ensue.

Vhal, you said TW needs 100 Breaker and Changer data to survive. Does bumping Breaker to 150 compensate?

A don't hate giving TW a specialty in supporting others, but eh. Maybe a little trump data so he could help Elle, but that's not in the plan. It specifically says physical abilities.
 
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The catgirl is already canon, and not Rune. Vhal rolled for it. But even though I know it won't win, I'm just going to have to stand my ground as the catgirl opposition. A matter of honor and all that.
 
[x] Plan Leaving Well Enough alone
-[x] Do not eat prosthetic
-[x] Set it up as a operational non-sapient shard rigged only accept command codes from you, preferably rig it so it won't become sapient but that's lower priority than not fucking the rest of it up.

[X] Stop messing with Charge for now - leave her alone.

[X] Plan "A Start Towards Fixing Taylor"
-[X] Use our new Human Biology research to scan Taylor for any anomalies.
-[X] Use our new Human Biology research to scan Veronica to see what "peak human" looks like and to get a bonus when researching Basic Host Modification (Human).
-[X] Don't send Taylor a dream, but stop her nightmares so that she can rest peacefully.

[X] Plan Shift
-[X] Check in with Shift to make sure things are going well and reassure her that you haven't forgotten her.
--[X] If she's upset that you didn't contact her yesterday, tell her it's because she's doing such a good job that she's becoming a more capable member of the pack.
-[X] Trade Shift 50 Master for 50 brute data. We need it to repair our hosts potential brain damage.

[X] Plan Negotiator
-[X] Contact Negotiator to let her know that you're currently evaluating the damaged Shards. You're just doing patch jobs for now while you figure out which Shards are salvageable.
--[X] Let her know that Emote has already been consumed because it was running low on Energy. Prosthetic reacted badly to the Standard Information Packet, but you have a plan!

[X] Plan Don't Do That
-[X] Send Veronica a dream of her throwing a blast at someone that kills them because it was more powerful than expected.
--[X] Hopefully, this inspires her to test out her powers safely.

[X] Plan Don't Hurt Yourself
-[X] If we get brute data from shift, start Host Modification.
-[X] If not, start Stabilize Trigger.
-[X] Continue researching Focused Research.

[x] Plan Networking
-[x] Loop Shift into Emote's send sharing feed from Stansfield.
-[x] Grab the share sensory feed from Prosthetic, and grant it access to Emote's.
-[x] Offer telekinetic access to the feeds from both Prosthetic and Emote if you can/haven't already set that up.
-[x] Offer Gaea the same deal in order to get Panacea's feed.
-[x] If shift can support more feeds let it use Prosthetic's as well for MOAR DATA!

Anything I missed?
 
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[ ] Plan Don't Hurt Yourself
-[ ] If we get brute data from shift, start Host Modification.
-[ ] If not, start Stabilize Trigger.
-[ ] Continue researching Focused Research.

This is a really poor idea as it only saves a bit under a day at finishing the set of:
Stronger Trigger, Stabilize Trigger, Basic and Advanced Host Modification compared to going Faster Research 2 first and then stabilize in focused research slot once that finishes and requires us to skip doing Faster Research 2 and Improved Research 1 once Focused Research 1 finishes which hurts us long turn quite a bit.

What this will do is give us whatever we start this turn sooner between stabilize and host mod, what we dont start this turn will finish later, and stronger trigger will finish sooner but we are really reducing the research speed of future projects by doing this.

Faster Research 2: Ads 68.5 research a day, finishes 15.21 days later- lost research: 1,041.885
Improved Research 1: Adds 50.5 research a day, finishes finishes 9.32 days later- lost research: 470.66
And that is assuming we use the focused research on both, if not then we lose more ground.
So about two tier 2 researches worth of research is being lost. Mimetic which we need for defense against the corrupted shard we are encountering: 125 for 1st level, 450 for 2nd so that would still leave 937.545 research left. The store and reuse overflow/crit overflow research is not on the index yet but we could finish that as well with the remaining research and still likely have some left over.

And that is not factoring in how this would push back the next set of research options (Focused 2 and Improved 2).
 
Ok, I've added the new plans to the possible votes list here. We should really consider consolidating some of these plans. There are 2 plans for Faster Research that are just worded differently, 3 plans for contacting Negotiator with 1-line differences between them, and a LOT of plans for Prosthetic with some of them seeming similar to others. I'm also not sure if all of the plans are still valid or if some are outdated.

For consolidating the Negotiator votes, do we want to offer to share senses with her? Do we want to test whether she knows about Worm memes? If no one wants to share senses with her, then I'll remove my plan to offer. The main reason I came up with that plan was because I was afraid that we would be advertising that we don't trust her.

I'm adding the current vote tally to the end of this post.

Void Stalker said:
[ ] Plan Don't Hurt Yourself
-[ ] If we get brute data from shift, start Host Modification.
-[ ] If not, start Stabilize Trigger.
-[ ] Continue researching Focused Research.

This is a really poor idea as it only saves a bit under a day at finishing the set of:
Stronger Trigger, Stabilize Trigger, Basic and Advanced Host Modification compared to going Faster Research 2 first and then stabilize in focused research slot once that finishes and requires us to skip doing Faster Research 2 and Improved Research 1 once Focused Research 1 finishes which hurts us long turn quite a bit.

What this will do is give us whatever we start this turn sooner between stabilize and host mod, what we dont start this turn will finish later, and stronger trigger will finish sooner but we are really reducing the research speed of future projects by doing this.
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The speed of future research projects doesn't matter if Taylor DIES before we get to that point. Stabilize Trigger doesn't matter as much if Taylor triggers before we get it, though it would still be useful for any other hosts that we redesign the powers of. Also, I'm worried about Taylor telling her father about her mysterious ailment, him panicking and taking her to the ER, and them finding a brain tumor that then mysteriously disappears once we finally get Basic Host Modification (Human).
Adhoc vote count started by Mount. Elements on Jan 20, 2019 at 8:02 AM, finished with 1466 posts and 9 votes.
  • [X] Stop messing with Charge for now - leave her alone.
    [X] Plan Don't Do That
    -[X] Send Veronica a dream of her throwing a blast at someone that kills them because it was more powerful than expected.
    --[X] Hopefully, this inspires her to test out her powers safely.
    [X] Plan "A Start Towards Fixing Taylor"
    -[X] Use our new Human Biology research to scan Taylor for any anomalies.
    -[X] Use our new Human Biology research to scan Veronica to see what "peak human" looks like and to get a bonus when researching Basic Host Modification (Human).
    -[X] Don't send Taylor a dream, but stop her nightmares so that she can rest peacefully.
    [X] Plan Don't Hurt Yourself
    -[X] If we get brute data from shift, start Host Modification.
    -[X] If not, start Stabilize Trigger.
    -[X] Continue researching Focused Research.
    [X] Plan "Waking Dream"
    -[X] Eat Prosthetic and give Trainwreck useful Tinker powers as defined in a separate plan.
    -[X] Send Trainwreck a dream where he thinks he's woken up to hear a couple of people nearby talking about going to Faultline's club, the Palanquin. One of them should wonder about the ethics of going to a club run by a mercenary. The other responds that at least her crew doesn't kill people like the gangs do. Plus, she takes in "those weird mutated capes with no memories".
    [x] Plan Salvage
    -[x] Stun Prosthetic, see if that wakes it up.
    -[x] If it doesn't, eat it. Be extra careful around the active power - you're gonna want to maintain that, or recreate it as closely as you can if that fails.
    [X] Plan Negotiator
    -[X] Contact Negotiator to let her know that you're currently evaluating the damaged Shards. You're just doing patch jobs for now while you figure out which Shards are salvageable.
    --[X] Let her know that Emote has already been consumed because it was running low on Energy. Prosthetic reacted badly to the Standard Information Packet, but you have a plan!
    [x] Plan Administrator, Administrate!
    -[x] Order Charge to formate the sentient Shard and then assimilate it.
    -[x] Monitor the situation. If things look like they're going wrong, stun Charge and format the sentient portion.
    [X] Plan Shift V2
    -[X] Check in with Shift to make sure things are going well and reassure her that you haven't forgotten her.
    --[X] If she's upset that you didn't contact her yesterday, tell her it's because she's doing such a good job that she's becoming a more capable member of the pack.
    -[X] Trade Shift 50 Master for 50 brute data. We need it to repair our hosts potential brain damage.
    -[X] Loop shift into the data feed from Veronica, to pay it back for looping you into Sophia.
    [X] Plan Taylor, Ducats
    -[X] Give Taylor a nice night of sleep, show Taylor nice dreams, beach vacation, Christmas, doing something fun etc.
    -[X] Use our new Human Biology research to scan Taylor for any anomalies.
    -[X] Use our new Human Biology research to scan Veronica to see what "peak human" looks like and to get a bonus when researching Basic Host Modification (Human).
    [X] Plan "Support Devices Specialization"
    -[X] Use 160 Tinker info to give Trainwreck Tinker powers with a specialization towards devices that can be used to support people, either by boosting their physical abilities or by limiting them. The devices should have a steampunk theme whenever possible.
    -[X] Use 150 Breaker and 50 Changer info to keep Trainwreck alive.
    [x] Plan Slow Your Roll
    -[x] DON'T give Taylor any other dreams just yet.
    --[x] Examine Taylor's psychological state in more detail. Something's up with her.
    [x] Plan Economy Intensifies
    -[x] Use the open research slot to work on Faster Research 2.
    [X] Plan Shift
    -[X] Check in with Shift to make sure things are going well and reassure her that you haven't forgotten her.
    --[X] If she's upset that you didn't contact her yesterday, tell her it's because she's doing such a good job that she's becoming a more capable member of the pack.
    -[X] Trade Shift 50 Master for 50 brute data. We need it to repair our hosts potential brain damage.
    [X] Rune should go after Panacea for catgirl mods. Rune should totally turn out to be in the closet. Hijinks ensue.
    [x] Plan Leaving Well Enough alone
    -[x] Do not eat prosthetic
    -[x] Set it up as a operational non-sapient shard rigged only accept command codes from you, preferably rig it so it won't become sapient but that's lower priority than not fucking the rest of it up.
    [X] Plan Gaea
    -[X] Finish what we didn't get too last time. Tell Gaea about symbiotic biosuit idea to compensate for her hosts fragility and to provide new means of data collection without a second trigger.
    -[X] Offer to share senses.
    [X] Plan Negotiator V2
    -[X] Contact Negotiator to let her know that you're currently evaluating the damaged Shards. You're just doing patch jobs for now while you figure out which Shards are salvageable.
    --[X] Let her know that Emote has already been consumed because it was running low on Energy. Prosthetic reacted badly to the Standard Information Packet, but you have a plan!
    -[X] "Negotiator, I want to make sure we understand each other. If, for example, a host was to say 'Meh, I can take her' right before battle, would they lose?"
    [X] Power plan
    -[X] Multitasking.
    -[X] Breaker 150 + Changer 50 + up to Changer 50 provided by eating Prosthetic.
    [X] Tinker 160. Vaguely steampunk style. Allows Trainwreck to build up from pretty much scraps and trash. Interacts with breaker power to integrate tech with his inhuman form.
    [X] Plan Psionics research
    -[X] Use the new slot on Basic Psionic Theory 1
    -[X] Otherwise continue previous research
    [X] Plan Good things come to those who wait.
    -[X] Eat (Prosthetic)?
    -[X] Rebuild its power after that in a separate plan, we can't come up with that without an updated data budget.
    -[X] If possible, defer the power modification to after you do some data trading.
    -[X] If you can't wait on the power modification, then hold off on eating it until your current Host gets you some data the good way. Nudge Veronica towards searching in the bad parts of town with a small dose of adrenaline to stimulate a growing concern for Amy as the search progresses without result. Even one fight worth of data should be enough to paper over the cracks.
    [X] Plan Try to help the Sapient Chunk
    -[X] Try to diagnose the malfunction of Sapient chunk. Order Charge to produce diagnostics of the Sapient portion.
    -[X] Communicate with the Sapient Chunk, ask what it recalls from its side.
    -[X] If corruption is too severe to be repaired without a reformat, ask the Sapient Chunk to attempt to generate a core memory and personality data dump/backup to you, you'd attempt to clone that over to the normal portion if it can manage that.
    [X] Plan Working Towards Trigger Research
    -[X] Slot 1- Continue Focused Research 1
    -[X] Slot 2- Start Faster Research 2
    [X] Plan Negotiator + Sense-Sharing
    -[X] Contact Negotiator to let her know that you're currently evaluating the damaged Shards. You're just doing patch jobs for now while you figure out which Shards are salvageable.
    --[X] Let her know that Emote has already been consumed because it was running low on Energy. Prosthetic reacted badly to the Standard Information Packet, but you have a plan!
    --[X] Ask if she wants to share senses.
    [x] Plan "MLG Villains"
    -[x] Eat Prosthetics, give Trainwreck actually useful Tinker Powers to remake himself.
    --[x] Send Dreams to join U&L.
    -[x] Eye Greg as possible Host.
    -[x] "Neeeeeeeeerds"
    [x] Plan Networking
    -[x] Loop Shift into Emote's send sharing feed from Stansfield.
    -[x] Grab the share sensory feed from Prosthetic, and grant it access to Emote's.
    -[x] Offer telekinetic access to the feeds from both Prosthetic and Emote if you can/haven't already set that up.
    -[x] Offer Gaea the same deal in order to get Panacea's feed.
    -[x] If shift can support more feeds let it use Prosthetic's as well for MOAR DATA!
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Mount. Elements said:
Ok, I've added the new plans to the possible votes list here. We should really consider consolidating some of these plans. There are 2 plans for Faster Research that are just worded differently, 3 plans for contacting Negotiator with 1-line differences between them, and a LOT of plans for Prosthetic with some of them seeming similar to others. I'm also not sure if all of the plans are still valid or if some are outdated.

For consolidating the Negotiator votes, do we want to offer to share senses with her? Do we want to test whether she knows about Worm memes? If no one wants to share senses with her, then I'll remove my plan to offer. The main reason I came up with that plan was because I was afraid that we would be advertising that we don't trust her.

I'm adding the current vote tally to the end of this post.


The speed of future research projects doesn't matter if Taylor DIES before we get to that point. Stabilize Trigger doesn't matter as much if Taylor triggers before we get it, though it would still be useful for any other hosts that we redesign the powers of. Also, I'm worried about Taylor telling her father about her mysterious ailment, him panicking and taking her to the ER, and them finding a brain tumor that then mysteriously disappears once we finally get Basic Host Modification (Human).
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Except that overall for those 4 items people want it saves a day on the final completion of those projects. As it is stabilize and stronger trigger for the research plan go in behind focused research 1 which finishes in 5.26 days on average, with an omake shaving off about 1.5 days from that. So with a good rolls and a couple of omake we can clear that in 2. As it is either way the research we want will not finish until end of November and going the route with stablize/host mod know only pushes the one we do not do further back then going faster research 2 now. That is in addition losing ground on very much needed research like memetic filtering to keep us from getting zapped by something bad when interacting with other shards.
 
Taylor is brain damaged. We may have given her congenital analgesia or Hypoesthesia, both of which are extremely dangerous conditions. It could be something else I haven't thought of, or hopefully something much weaker. Please google them, I don't know how to make links. These are the kind of problems that kill people, not because they're inherently lethal, but because it makes everything you do potentially lethal.

Depending on how severe it is, Taylor could be walking around with internal bleeding and broken bones. She could be burning herself and getting constant cuts. And just not be aware of it. Think about how important your sense of touch is right now.

How do you know to eat? Your stomach rumbles. How do you know to drinks? You get thirsty, with a dry mouth. How do you know to find a toilet? You feel a pressure. You constantly make little adjustment as you walk around and touch things so you're not breaking things by accident. That sense of weight when you try to lift something heavy.

Without a sense of touch, you have to be constantly and meticulously aware of your body and what you're doing to make sure you don't make any mistakes, and even though you can't what's going on inside.
 
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Omake Research: Memetic Proxy Filtering 1
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    • Are anyone willing to switch to my Taylor Plan it is identical to the popular one, but it replaces abandoning the dream sequences that we are currently doing with giving Taylor nice dreams instead.

    Ok, there is a lot of junk that I don't want in my brain, er, crystal thing so I better get on with making a proper firewall, if I remember correctly proxy filtering was the cutting edge of what we had when I was a human so let's start there.
    • If I remember correctly, proxy filtering was about limiting the amount of input gates so you could bottleneck the incoming data scan it as it is coming in and check if something is not as it seems, I think there was something more...
    • If I am to translate this into myself, I guess I could start with designating a few instances of myself to the input gates so they can look out for hazards, then I restrict the amount of places that can receive inputs.
    • Though this will slow down communication, but needs must and all that.
    • Oh, I remember now, a part of proxy filtering was isolating the input from the rest of the system so that when something was discovered it would only be in a small part of the system instead of having infected all of it, this done to make it easier to delete.
    • Okay, so to do this I will need to restrict the connection between my instances so as to limit potential infection spread, though I will need to have them send transcripts that will be used to evaluate if the data is something that I want.
    • This should work as a mark one firewall against all the nasty info hazards of the world, if worst comes to worst I will just have to use brain bleach on some parts of myself instead of all of me, though it is a shame about the slowdown in internal and external communication, hopefully that can be fixed in a later version.

    @Vhalidictes is this valid?
     
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    • Void Stalker said:
    Except that overall for those 4 items people want it saves a day on the final completion of those projects. As it is stabilize and stronger trigger for the research plan go in behind focused research 1 which finishes in 5.26 days on average, with an omake shaving off about 1.5 days from that. So with a good rolls and a couple of omake we can clear that in 2. As it is either way the research we want will not finish until end of November and going the route with stablize/host mod know only pushes the one we do not do further back then going faster research 2 now. That is in addition losing ground on very much needed research like memetic filtering to keep us from getting zapped by something bad when interacting with other shards.
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    I'm a bit confused about the 4 items you're referring to. You mentioned "Stronger Trigger, Stabilize Trigger, Basic and Advanced Host Modification" in a previous post, but do people even want Advanced Host Modification right away? Making Taylor superhuman would be neat, but I consider Memetic Proxy Filtering 1 & 2 and Administrative Archaeology to be higher priorities. Stronger Trigger is necessary if Taylor doesn't trigger for a while because it would allow us to turn a weak trigger event into a strong power, but I suspect that Taylor is currently close to triggering so it's not urgent unless we all are willing to risk the unknown side effects in return for making Taylor a REALLY STRONG cape.

    Also, I don't think you're taking the omakes into account, though it would be difficult to do so since we haven't gotten the Research points from them yet. There are 2 omakes for Stabilize Trigger, 1 for Basic Host Modification (Human), and 1 (possibly 2 if the old one still counts) for Memetic Proxy Filtering 1. If the rules haven't changed, that's 50-200 points for each omake.
     
    I don't think advanced host modification is really important, that's for non human but still biological augmentations. We can give Taylor peak human with just the first level and Veronica's example. We can even heal Taylor and damn the aberrance if we really have too.
     
    Mount. Elements said:
    I'm a bit confused about the 4 items you're referring to. You mentioned "Stronger Trigger, Stabilize Trigger, Basic and Advanced Host Modification" in a previous post, but do people even want Advanced Host Modification right away? Making Taylor superhuman would be neat, but I consider Memetic Proxy Filtering 1 & 2 and Administrative Archaeology to be higher priorities. Stronger Trigger is necessary if Taylor doesn't trigger for a while because it would allow us to turn a weak trigger event into a strong power, but I suspect that Taylor is currently close to triggering so it's not urgent unless we all are willing to risk the unknown side effects in return for making Taylor a REALLY STRONG cape.

    Also, I don't think you're taking the omakes into account, though it would be difficult to do so since we haven't gotten the Research points from them yet. There are 2 omakes for Stabilize Trigger, 1 for Basic Host Modification (Human), and 1 (possibly 2 if the old one still counts) for Memetic Proxy Filtering 1. If the rules haven't changed, that's 50-200 points for each omake.
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    When I asked earlier to draw up a plan I had feedback for advanced host modification which is why I have been including it, I also saw feedback for Strong Trigger if we do not want either right now then that changes things a lot. On omakes, can they be used for any research?
     
    Void Stalker said:
    When I asked earlier to draw up a plan I had feedback for advanced host modification which is why I have been including it, I also saw feedback for Strong Trigger if we do not want either right now then that changes things a lot. On omakes, can they be used for any research?
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    I'm not really sure. At first, Vhalidictes said that they could be used for anything, but then a Psionics omake was assigned points for Basic Psionic Theory. My guess is that people will want to put the Research points for whatever research project they were writing for, but that's up to each person to decide for themselves.
     
    Well that was the impression I got. My omake was for human modification but Vhal hasn't said anything. Although it was kind of short, I didn't really know what to say, maybe I can make it better.
     
    Gino said:
    Well that was the impression I got. My omake was for human modification but Vhal hasn't said anything. Although it was kind of short, I didn't really know what to say, maybe I can make it better.
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    Vhalidictes hasn't said anything about any of the omakes that were done this voting round yet. I know I've worried about my omake since I basically wrote myself into a corner where we have to wait until Taylor is cured to scan her again for power simulations and until we talk to Taylor about what kind of power(s) she wants.
     
    [X] Plan Don't Do That
    -[X] Send Veronica a dream of her throwing a blast at someone that kills them because it was more powerful than expected.
    --[X] Hopefully, this inspires her to test out her powers safely.

    [X] Stop messing with Charge for now - leave her alone.

    [X] Plan "A Start Towards Fixing Taylor"
    -[X] Use our new Human Biology research to scan Taylor for any anomalies.
    -[X] Use our new Human Biology research to scan Veronica to see what "peak human" looks like and to get a bonus when researching Basic Host Modification (Human).
    -[X] Don't send Taylor a dream, but stop her nightmares so that she can rest peacefully.

    [X] Plan "Waking Dream"
    -[X] Eat Prosthetic and give Trainwreck useful Tinker powers as defined in a separate plan.
    -[X] Send Trainwreck a dream where he thinks he's woken up to hear a couple of people nearby talking about going to Faultline's club, the Palanquin. One of them should wonder about the ethics of going to a club run by a mercenary. The other responds that at least her crew doesn't kill people like the gangs do. Plus, she takes in "those weird mutated capes with no memories".
     
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