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Green Sun, Black Shadows (CG/Exalted)

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Also, don't forget he has 'Retribution Will Follow', which sends him into Uncontrolled Berserk Anger and makes him immune to all forms of mental influence (which presumably includes emotion effects) from anyone with equal or lesser Essence.
 
Walker of the Yellow Path said:
Excellencies are Reflexive Charms, and the text of them says you can affect any Rolled use of the ability.
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Ok, what's the maximum he can throw into the resistance roll using his Excellency?

NSMS said:
Also, don't forget he has 'Retribution Will Follow', which sends him into Uncontrolled Berserk Anger and makes him immune to all forms of mental influence (which presumably includes emotion effects) from anyone with equal or lesser Essence.
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Could be a problem if he uses is, yeah.
 
Enjou said:
Ok, what's the maximum he can throw into the resistance roll using his Excellency?
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A Stun would be Stamina + Resistance. He's got Stamina 4, no Resistance. So with the full bonus of Max Excellency and a 3 die stunt, he has a pool of 11.

With the Full Bonus of the Excellency and no stunt? A pool of 8

The minimum pool with lowest possible Excellency and no stunt is 6 (Malfeas Exe must add at Least Half the total possible dice for the action, IIRC)
 
Walker of the Yellow Path said:
A Stun would be Stamina + Resistance. He's got Stamina 4, no Resistance. So with the full bonus of Max Excellency and a 3 die stunt, he has a pool of 11.

With the Full Bonus of the Excellency and no stunt? A pool of 8

The minimum pool with lowest possible Excellency and no stunt is 6 (Malfeas Exe must add at Least Half the total possible dice for the action, IIRC)
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But can he stunt resistance on an unexpected attack? (sorry if this was answered, I'm a wee bit tired at the moment)
 
landcollector said:
Yes. One of the themes italicized in the Malfeas Excellencies is resilience.
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I realize that, but it doesn't answer quite what I asked. Stunting something when you're surprised just seems like an odd notion to me. You can't dodge while surprised, after all. I mean, what is your stunt, "I grunt real hard while trying to stay conscious"? That doesn't seems like a very good stunt, IMO.
 
Good news, my exams are finished so I can write now. Bad news, my laptop died while I was working and took out the stuff I already wrote. Worse news, said incident has drained me of motivation.

Wow... :facepalm: No offense dood @NSMS, but I have the urge to kill your character. :V

Does anybody know one of Adorjan's Jouten? Because I notice a distinct lack of Adorjani Urges and wish to rectify that.
 
Enjou said:
But can he stunt resistance on an unexpected attack? (sorry if this was answered, I'm a wee bit tired at the moment)
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You can stunt on anything you can roll.

A valid resistance stunt would've something like "I grit my teeth, as the electricity strikes through my nerves. I grip the light pole next to me, my fingers crushing into it bits as I shrug off the light sting."
 
.....you know, we could just convince him we aren't a vampire by offering to let him rub garlic on us. Or walking through his front door while he is verbally stating we aren't invited. Or we could stand in front of a mirror. Given he seems to think he has superpowers, we'd probably be best off coming at it from the approach that he's being invited to an anti-hero justice league.
 
Vaalintine said:
.....you know, we could just convince him we aren't a vampire by offering to let him rub garlic on us. Or walking through his front door while he is verbally stating we aren't invited. Or we could stand in front of a mirror. Given he seems to think he has superpowers, we'd probably be best off coming at it from the approach that he's being invited to an anti-hero justice league.
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That might work if he weren't in the process of attacking us.
 
Are there any Ebon Dragon charms that involve attacking someone with darkness? Kind of like Marvel's the darkforce.

That or temporarily imprisoning someone in shadows or darkness, or using it to teleport, like the Ebon Shadow Martial Arts style.
 
the DragonBard said:
Are there any Ebon Dragon charms that involve attacking someone with darkness? Kind of like Marvel's the darkforce.

That or temporarily imprisoning someone in shadows or darkness, or using it to teleport, like the Ebon Shadow Martial Arts style.
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Seeing is Blindness vas uses our hands to trail liquid darkness, and causes anyone who the user strikes with a physical attack to become Blind if the Infernal rolls more successes Ina Manipulation + Presence roll than the higher of his foe's Perception or Awareness.

Bloodless Murk Evasion is a 4m Perfect Dodge that causes us to collapse into Shadows and Reappear our (Temporary Willpower) Yards away. It's Flaw is Holy Attacks.
 
Walker of the Yellow Path said:
Seeing is Blindness vas uses our hands to trail liquid darkness, and causes anyone who the user strikes with a physical attack to become Blind if the Infernal rolls more successes Ina Manipulation + Presence roll than the higher of his foe's Perception or Awareness.

Bloodless Murk Evasion is a 4m Perfect Dodge that causes us to collapse into Shadows and Reappear our (Temporary Willpower) Yards away. It's Flaw is Holy Attacks.
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Hmm.

Maybe Lulu should make some homebrew charms to do so.
Start out with maybe Seeing is Blindness, then a charm to create a field of darkness, or create attacks with darkness (kind of the ED's version of MHM) as well as creating constructs from darkness, though less manipulating, more hitting.)
 
What's really amusing is that he has Factual Determination Analysis. Could come in handy if we act correctly.

Anyway, I'm gonna try to stunt this. I was initially thinking of a Malfean excellency, but trying to take him alive may count as showing restraint, which makes it inapplicable. (I was thinking something along the lines of boasting about actually being a Prince of Dragons, not a vampire. Though, that could be applicable.) We could go for a TED excellency by pretending to be a vampire and yelling about how he is the same as us, but that seems like it'd make more trouble when it comes to convinving him. I'll give both Oramaic and Ophidian options a try. The beginning of each stunt should be mostly the same anyway.


Ophidian:
You sigh at the Infernal's words and reach behind your back, activating the concealed weapon on your fist. This man is such a fool, unlike yourself. Still, as annoying as he is, it's in your best interests to subdue him, however you can.
"Yes, I am most certainly one of those monsters that you abhor! How sad for you then that I have come to tell you that you are one as well!"
Even if your shocking words don't do the trick, your hidden shocking weapon might...



Oramaic:
You sigh at the Infernal's words and reach behind your back, activating the weapon placed unexpectedly on your fist, brought along specifically for tonight. This man is such a witless fool, compared to yourself. Still, best to speak with confidence here.
"You fool! Your singular expectations cannot possibly grasp my nature! For unlike an easily slain vampire, I am the one and only Prince of the Forgotten Dragons!"
And if demoralising words won't do the trick, perhaps a magical version of the same will....




Honestly, I think I like the Oramaic stunt better. The stunted 'demoralisation' parrallel works better than what I've got for the TED stunt, it doesn't involve giving him an implication we'll have to correct later, and the Ophidian stunt kind of dances on the line between truth and lies, since even though neither of us are vampires, both of us are Infernals. Might be a case of trying for too much in the way of excellencies. Plus, between his stupidity and possesssion of Factual Determination Analysis, he might well choose to interpret things in the most inconvenient way possible (since FDA doesn't clarify which part of a statement is false). Honestly, this guy is just a mess of contradictions, thematically speaking.
 
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frozenchicken said:
What's really amusing is that he has Factual Determination Analysis. Could come in handy if we act correctly.

Anyway, I'm gonna try to stunt this. I was initially thinking of a Malfean excellency, but trying to take him alive may count as showing restraint, which makes it inapplicable. (I was thinking something along the lines of boasting about actually being a Prince of Dragons, not a vampire. Though, that could be applicable.) We could go for a TED excellency by pretending to be a vampire and yelling about how he is the same as us, but that seems like it'd make more trouble when it comes to convinving him. I'll give both Oramaic and Ophidian options a try. The beginning of each stunt should be mostly the same anyway.


Ophidian:
You sigh at the Infernal's words and reach behind your back, activating the concealed weapon on your fist. This man is such a fool, unlike yourself. Still, as annoying as he is, it's in your best interests to subdue him, however you can.
"Yes, I am most certainly one of those monsters that you fear! How sad for you then that I have come to tell you that you are one as well!"
Even if your shocking words don't do the trick, your hidden shocking weapon might...



Oramaic:
You sigh at the Infernal's words and reach behind your back, activating the weapon placed unexpectedly on your fist, brought along specifically for tonight. This man is such a witless fool, compared to yourself. Still, best to speak with confidence here.
"You fool! Your singular expectations cannot possibly grasp my nature! For unlike an easily slain vampire, I am the one and only Prince of the Forgotten Dragons!"
And if demoralising words won't do the trick, perhaps a magical version of the same will....




Honestly, I think I like the Oramaic stunt better. It doesn't involve giving him an implication we'll have to correct later, and the Ophidian stunt kind of dances on the line between truth and lies, since even though neither of us are vampires, both of us are Infernals. Might be a case of trying for too much in the way of excellencies. Plus, between his stupidity and possesssion of Factual Determination Analysis, he might well choose to interpret things in the most inconvenient way possible.
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The essential problem is that he's in the middle of attacking us, so I'm not sure how well social attacks will work here. Also, he's clearly NOT afraid, just stupid as all fucking hell. Hamming it up and saying we're a monster may not work well either. Regardless, we need to get him to stop for a second to let us talk to him if we're likely to have a chance at success.
 
I was rather imagining it as words said before his charge gets to us. He is slower than us, starting at range, and frankly, I think it's cool to be able to make a big boast like that before combat technically starts. I don't mind if the social attack doesn't count (as he's too much in his fighting headspace to really consider things), but I've long understood that in Exalted, the 'rule of cool' trumps so long as it doesn't conflict with the mechanics.

Point on the fear thing though. I'll change that to 'abhor'.
 
frozenchicken said:
I was rather imagining it as words said before his charge gets to us. He is slower than us, starting at range, and frankly, I think it's cool to be able to make a big boast like that before combat technically starts. I don't mind if the social attack doesn't count (as he's too much in his fighting headspace to really consider things), but I've long understood that in Exalted, the 'rule of cool' trumps so long as it doesn't conflict with the mechanics.

Point on the fear thing though. I'll change that to 'abhor'.
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I don't think he abhors them either - he just seems exited, honestly. He's enjoying this shit.

Anyways, the GM seems to want a battle here, so we're going to do one to an extent.
 
I say we just shoot the moron in the legs until he can't walk, then drag him to someplace we won't be found or overheard. Then we can hopefully talk some sense into him.
 
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