Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

Literally our first ghoul encounter:

You underestimate human ingenuity.

If we can throw in a pack of cards or two, or a checkers board with camping supplies, sure.
A hand crank radio would also be a good fit.
But in the current circumstances, I dont think its reasonable to spend several hundred dollars on an entertainment budget.

Next month, sure. Not this one.
You underestimate how easily humans get bored. And it's not like a few hundred bucks is a lot.
So what are your suggestions then? Other than maxing Etiquite?
Etiquette, empathy, a bit of Law at least (probably with excellency). Then Alchemy to 2 dots for the potions that give +2 to a given ability for a time. Also technology excellency and RVD for XP gain. In terms of specific preparation for Mab - Hellscry Chakra, All Things Betray
 
Chirality Prohibition Index (•••) - 12xp
Maggot Mana Plague (••) - 8xp
MMP doesn't seem necessary to me; we can spend money to feed them instead. It's more involved, but personally I hate spending exp for stuff we can reasonably do through other means.

There's also the physical aspect of the changes to consider. I think future recruitment will suffer if we're obviously dosing people with something that physically changes them and makes them more susceptible to our influence.

CPI is less obvious, but still sort of has that problem. We're also pretty early on here, so I think training is something we can put off.
Etiquette 5: 4 XP
Empathy 5: 7 XP (to read her better)

All Things Betray: 8 XP (perception DC reduced by three for a scene)

Potentially Perception attribute too.
We do have other concerns, and the margin on dots of base skills isn't great. I think we should focus on putting together a good build instead of myopically building around Mab.
 
Winning Vote
Adhoc vote count started by EternityWarrior on Dec 17, 2022 at 5:57 AM, finished with 67 posts and 9 votes.

  • [X]Plan Red Dog Redemption
    -[X] [Leadership] Separation of Powers
    --[X]Command/Security Adam
    --[X]Treasurer/Health/Housekeeping: Bones
    --[X]Food: Lockjaw
    --[X]Youngest/Diplomat/Ombudsman: Sarah
    [X] [Standing orders] Write in
    --[X]Patrol the worksite and deter looters and vandals
    --[X]Avoid combat if possible
    [X] [Food and Amenities]Budget: $11300
    --[X]Camping Supplies:$2000
    --[X]Contingency Fund:$1000
    --[X]Communications/Cellphones: $200 (4x phones for Security + Treasurer + Food + Youngest)
    --[X]Groceries: $5400/9 ghouls
    --[X]Clothes/Sanitary Supplies/Laundry: $1500
    --[X]First Aid/Pharmaceuticals Kit: $200
    --[X]Defensive/Protective Gear: $1000
    [X]Plan Red Dog Redemption with Cyberdevils and entertainment
    -[X] [Leadership] Separation of Powers
    --[X]Command/Security Adam
    --[X]Treasurer/Health/Housekeeping: Bones
    --[X]Food: Lockjaw
    --[X]Youngest/Diplomat/Ombudsman: Sarah
    -[X] [Food and Amenities]Budget: $12550
    --[X]Camping Supplies:$2000
    --[X]Contingency Fund:$1000
    --[X]Communications/Cellphones: $450 (9x phones for everyone)
    --[X]Groceries: $5400/9 ghouls
    --[X]Clothes/Sanitary Supplies/Laundry: $1500
    --[X]First Aid/Pharmaceuticals Kit: $200
    --[X]Defensive/Protective Gear: $1000
    --[X] Entertainment. Books, comics, board games 500$
    --[X] Portable power packs for cellphone recharging, 450$
    -[X] [Standing orders] Write in
    --[X]Patrol the worksite and deter looters and vandals
    --[X]Avoid combat if possible
    [X]Plan Red Dog Redemption - Condos Edition
    -[X] [Leadership] Separation of Powers
    --[X]Command/Security Adam
    --[X]Treasurer/Health/Housekeeping: Bones
    --[X]Food: Lockjaw
    --[X]Youngest/Diplomat/Ombudsman: Sarah
    [X] [Food and Amenities]Budget: $11300
    -[X] Attempt to find 1 month leases sufficient to cover all ghouls for no more than $3000
    —[X] Use Molly's name on the leases if needed, apply social excellencies to encourage leasing agents to avoid looking too closely at our business.
    --[X]Communications/Cellphones: $200 (4x phones for Security + Treasurer + Food + Youngest)
    --[X]Groceries: $5400/9 ghouls
    --[X]Clothes/Sanitary Supplies/Laundry: $1500
    --[X]First Aid/Pharmaceuticals Kit: $200
    --[X]Defensive/Protective Gear: $1000
 
Arc 4 Post 17: Of Dogs and Cats
Of Dogs and Cats

13th of August 2006 A.D.

Not that you are ever going to admit it to mom, but it's a little shocking how expensive stuff is, especially the food. When you make a list of reasonably priced foods than can be cooked in a basic camping set up for a month you had to an eye-watering five thousand and a half dollars. Adam grunts vaguely that "we don't need food that's good for mortals".

"See that is why you're not in charge of the food anymore," Lockjaw scoffs. The joke feels a little forced, like he is putting it on for your benefit, but some of the younger ghouls are giggling outright, a welcome break from arguing what kind of sleeping bags they should get.

"If we died from bad food our seed would have been gone from the earth before men learned how to grow crops and raise livestock"

Everyone else seems pleased enough at the prospect, some showing off their T-shirts, jackets and backpacks from Goodwill or the Salvation Army thrift store. A few of those backpacks had started their lives out as knapsacks or even cargo pants but sewing is another one of those those skills you seem to have come down with along with your endless supply of tools.

The hospital, more of a first aid station, is set up in an old bathroom whose walls once scoured clean with bleach and wire brush shone a pleasing ivory-white, the worn effigies of long gone nouveau styling once more brought into light. Not very good light as of yet, you've been too busy cleaning to do anything with the electrical grid, if 'grid' is even the right word for something that can give power all the way down here. You are reasonably sure the power company would have realized they were losing power around here at some point in the last hundred years if they had been the case and even if not does electrical wiring even last for a hundred odd years without maintenance.

Your fingers itch to find out, but there is just too much other stuff to do: fixing the water damage, getting the sewer water out of the living areas so it can't just do more of it, replacing rickety wooden boards over suspiciously Porter shaped holes with stone again.

"It was an emergency..." So that is what the rumble of an embarrassed avalanche would sound like.

Other unpleasant surprises include a surprisingly robust cockroach infestation that was drawn to 'the pantry'. The less said about the contents of that place the better no matter how resilient ghouls stomachs might be. though in the process you do discover something really odd, a antique rosewood table worth hundreds maybe thousands of dollars used for cutting up the... portions. Now that it no longer has all the nicks and cuts on it the thing makes a good central piece for the meeting room of the newly proclaimed Jade Dogs

The new name is a little embarrassing on its own, but everyone was very on board with it so that is who they are now. More importantly they also have their orders to stay out of trouble and keep trouble out of the station, something Porter is almost as happy to see as the cleanup, hopefully enough so that he'll chip in as well when he's not napping. Regardless Bones is to call you if there is trouble too big for them to handle.

Progress 2/8 due to Extraordinary Crafting success

It is perhaps not surprising that with all the banging of hammers and the whir of brass power drills you end up drawing other sorts of attention... and it is not the lost scions of the White Court.

***​

In the poor light of the tunnels or perhaps just in the grip of sudden fear as twenty pounds of muscle, sinew and claw lunges at you you might mistake the creature before you for an ordinary cat, grown large as it it grizzled and covered with the scars of a life hard-fought. But this is no lucky mouser, you see it in the gleam of its red rimmed eyes, like a golden coin in a pool of blood. A malk, cruel and patient hunters of faerie kin, not so different from a cat now that you think of it, only this one is as clever as any mortal man and filled with the wisdom of centuries playing and preying upon mortal kind. Who is to say which is which?


Perhaps unsurprisingly Lydia looks like she would like to punt it into the wall of the service tunnel, held back more by the knowledge that were there is one of them there are more than by any sense of courtesy. Guest right had not yet been invoked, nor invitations made.

"You are not welcome here False One, take your carrion eaters hence if you would bathe in their stink."

The feline before you is very very still save only for the lashing of its scruffy tail, but more than that, the way it follows the movement of your hands rather than look in your eyes, it is ready for a fight. Why? Because it thinks it has no choice, its back against the wall in some way.

Essence at 6/12 (From Crafting today)

What do you reply?

[] Ask why it had called you false when you had not spoken a single word yet

[] Point out that the Station is Porter's to dispose of and he is more than happy to let the Jade Dogs stay

[] Write in


OOC: DPE is engaged, but you do not have the benefit of BSM right now as you are not wet.
 
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New item for the bucket list: getting so many intimidation successes that we can do the whole "whose a good kitty" routine and rub a Malk's belly while it lays paralyzed with fear.


More seriously, I wonder if this guy has beef with the former red dogs or something. Picking a fight over territory is one thing, but we haven't exactly been expanding so I don't know why they'd feel cornered already.

Maybe it rolled just well enough on occult to recognize where our power draws its themes?
 
More seriously, I wonder if this guy has beef with the former red dogs or something. Picking a fight over territory is one thing, but we haven't exactly been expanding so I don't know why they'd feel cornered already.
Infernal Exalt setting up in a [Place] inevitably means that the vast majority of the [Place] is going to end up suborned and subordinated to the infernal, bar truly significant opposition.

In other words, a very big fish just plopped itself into a fairly small pond. Molly never stopped looking like an archdevil on a vacation out of hell. Minor supernaturals around her respond accordingly.
 
I think it believes us to be pretending to be Winter Lady, or even Mab herself. Or at least a high winter fae. We are frost, but not of Winter. We are power and rulership, but not a mantle bearer. We are the false one.

[X] Ask why it had called you false when you had not spoken a single word yet
-[X] Etiquette excellency and intimidation excellency
-[X] Stunt: Once again you draw upon the memories of your encounter with Winter's Queen. You posture shifts slightly, becoming more regal, even as the aura of frost sweeps across the tunnel. Carefully modulating your voice and choosing your words, you speak, offering advice and asking a question in equal measure, lest there is debt created between you and this fae: "Be careful, little hunter, when accusing others of falsehoods unearned or making demands in the territory of others. Some would take offence, unless swift is your explanation and wise are your words. "
 
Yeah, Molly feeling a bit like Winter Fae in some ways might be one of the problems, here.

She isn't, but some similarities are there, and it might be playing against her.
 
[X] Fairy kind, bound by rules and bindings. You've obviously hit something that makes them feel like you're about to play exterminator. You need to de-escalate so diplomacy has a chance.
-[X] Etiquette excellency
-[X] Make a show that you have no weapons bared and no intent on violence, as paltry as that is at the moment. "In the interest of peace, I would offer you a place at my table as a guest and promise that no harm shall come to you should you direct no harm to me and mine." Offer him guest right and protection while under your banner, and in turn gather information.
 
ok people i realise something next time we get exp we should remove our cold aura as much as possible to be able to pet the kitty without hurting it
 
[X] Fairy kind, bound by rules and bindings. You've obviously hit something that makes them feel like you're about to play exterminator. You need to de-escalate so diplomacy has a chance.
-[X] Etiquette excellency
-[X] Make a show that you have no weapons bared and no intent on violence, as paltry as that is at the moment. "In the interest of peace, I would offer you a place at my table as a guest and promise that no harm shall come to you should you direct no harm to me and mine." Offer him guest right and protection while under your banner, and in turn gather information.

I like this one. Plays of occult knowledge we have, de escalates a a bit and uses a skill we are not very known for but I would like to get known for. It never hurts to be polite.

Though I had the irrational thought of just responding with a flat "No." and see what the Malk makes of that ^_^
 
I'd like to point out that malks are cats, and cats are killers. They are fae, and allied with winter court (though whether they are proper Winter) is a question worth asking. They are pack predators, so there are probably other cats nearby. Before and if offering them hospitality, we should show them our strength.

EDIT: Also, who does this fur rag thinks it is, talking shit about our minions?
 
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Not that you are ever going to admit to to mom, but it's a little shocking how expensive stuff is
it to mom
When you make a list of reasonably priced foods than can be cooked in a basic camping set up for a month you had to an eye-watering five thousand and a half dollars
to pay an
A few of those backpacks had started their lives out as knapsacks or eve cargo pants but sowing is another one of those those skills you seem to have come down with along with your endless supply of tools.
even
of those
a antique rosewood table worth hundreds maybe thousands of dollars used for cutting up the... portions.
an antique
on it the thing makes a good central piece for the meeting room of the newly proclaimed Jade Dogs
centerpiece (? seems to be the commmon word used in that context)
Regardless Bones is to call you if there is trouble too big for them to handle.
Regardless, Bones
In the poor light of the tunnels or perhaps just in the grip of sudden fear as twenty pounds of muscle, sinew and claw lunges at you you might mistake the creature before you for an ordinary cat, grown large as it it grizzled and covered with the scars of a life hard-fought.
as it is
Perhaps unsurprisingly Lydia looks like she would like to punt it into the wall of the service tunnel, held back more by the knowledge that were there
where there
 
Infernal Exalt setting up in a [Place] inevitably means that the vast majority of the [Place] is going to end up suborned and subordinated to the infernal, bar truly significant opposition.

In other words, a very big fish just plopped itself into a fairly small pond. Molly never stopped looking like an archdevil on a vacation out of hell. Minor supernaturals around her respond accordingly.

Also, Infernals taint the world around them, which may make the energy of this dragon line radioactive to anyone that's not similarly aligned.
 
Also, Infernals taint the world around them, which may make the energy of this dragon line radioactive to anyone that's not similarly aligned.
not passively. also Molly doesn't have needed charms at all. Not to mention local Malk wouldn't know what 'infernal exalt' is at all. It probably thinks she's a demon or something.
 
We have been told Molly feels like a full unbound demon lord to those that can since her. This Malk is just posturing, it innately knows that Molly is so far above it that that its only real choices are to flee, or become a vessel.
 
[X] Fairy kind, bound by rules and bindings. You've obviously hit something that makes them feel like you're about to play exterminator. You need to de-escalate so diplomacy has a chance.
-[X] Etiquette excellency
-[X] Make a show that you have no weapons bared and no intent on violence, as paltry as that is at the moment. "In the interest of peace, I would offer you a place at my table as a guest and promise that no harm shall come to you should you direct no harm to me and mine." Offer him guest right and protection while under your banner, and in turn gather information.
 
MMP doesn't seem necessary to me; we can spend money to feed them instead. It's more involved, but personally I hate spending exp for stuff we can reasonably do through other means.
Actually we can't, MiS gives a suspension of torments which, in the cases of Ghouls and Whampires, has to do with their hunger, but these species too need their supernatural fuel to perform supernatural feats and DP has already decreed that MMP can give this in a way totally ethical for them (the lack of which will make them much less useful).

For me the MMP loyalty increase is an addition because it is another way to guarantee loyalty, which otherwise we will need to spend several AP to do this with our future servants, being an effort that would need to be repeated with each large wave of recruitment. Remember that those under MiS alone can still betray us as long as they endure their torments again.

I doubt these ghoul or wampires will do this as they hate their torments and were at absolute rock bottom but who knows future recruits.
 
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