Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

[X] Trigger Impervious Primacy Mantle and stare her down, you will not bow your head to any who have not earned it on you, offer a neutral greeting
 
Not that it's the same thing don't kue Jin immediately get their own body though? Not that we can just print kue jin

No, they use their own corpse which they fix up as part of the transformation, but that is because the soul steals a infinitesimally small part of the Yama King's power by passing the tests to escape and become one of the Ten Thousand Demons, basically the Thousand Hells leak.
 
[X] Trigger Impervious Primacy Mantle and stare her down, you will not bow your head to any who have not earned it on you, offer a neutral greeting
I would prefer we wait for a write in honestly. This is our first meeting and while we aren't a big boy that's not needed to make an impression.

Edit: Something flashy like declaring that she may now bow to the future queen of creation perhaps?
 
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[X] Bow your head and offer a courteous greeting (Charisma+Etiquette)
-[X] Trigger Impervious Primacy Mantle -1 WP
-[X]STUNT: ???


REASON
Be polite. There's an elderly woman here :V.
If we can be courteous to church busybodies we dont like like Mrs Evens, we can be courteous to Mab. And there's a chance that consequences of discourtesy dont just fall on us.

But courtesy doesnt mean being stupid. Mental shields up.
 
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[X] uju32
Harry still has not recovered his voice, which is let's say unusual for him. :V
Molly: "Pretty neat, right?"

Harry: "..." 😵

Molly: "I'm still iffy on more modern magical practices, but I think I'm getting a good handle on some of the more esoteric knowledge I inherited. Can't beat the classics, right?"

Harry: "..." 😨

Molly: "You think I can have a sit with Bob soon? I really want to compare notes with him while some of this stuff is still fresh in my head."

Harry: "..."😱
 
[X] Trigger Impervious Primacy Mantle and stare her down, you will not bow your head to any who have not earned it on you, offer a neutral greeting

We do not kneel.
 
[X] Trigger Impervious Primacy Mantle and stare her down, you will not bow your head to any who have not earned it on you, offer a neutral greeting
 
VOTE
[X] Bow your head and offer a courteous greeting (Charisma+Etiquette)
-[X] Trigger Impervious Primacy Mantle -1 WP
-[X]STUNT: ???


REASON
Be polite. There's an elderly woman here :V.
If we can be courteous to church busybodies we dont like like Mrs Evens, we can be courteous to Mab. And there's a chance that consequences of discourtesy dont just fall on us.

But courtesy doesnt mean being stupid. Mental shields up.
I think there is difference between some noisy and impolite parishioner and the entity of Winter, who Molly considers her enemy.
 
1)We are a technological civilization, whether magic or tech.
We are not at the mercy of the ecosystem; we modify our environment within reason. An urbanized society in the position of a city state will need plenty of technological intervention to survive.
Our technology is a part of our ecosystem. It's anthropogenic, but it's still an ecosystem.
3)Frankly? People are our greatest resource.
Yes, and people in overpopulated conditions are less efficient, as is society where violence is common and stress is high.
 
[X] Trigger Impervious Primacy Mantle and stare her down, you will not bow your head to any who have not earned it on you, offer a neutral greeting

Only real option. Not like she's our queen.
 
Be polite. There's an elderly woman here :V.
If we can be courteous to church busybodies we dont like like Mrs Evens, we can be courteous to Mab. And there's a chance that consequences of discourtesy dont just fall on us.
Addressing Mab as an equal isn't inherently discourteous, which is what the 'give a neutral greeting' is. We don't have to show supplication to be polite, we're not her subject after all.

Edit: Something flashy like declaring that she may now bow to the future queen of creation perhaps?
This though, this is rude and is asking to be smited.
 
[X] Trigger Impervious Primacy Mantle and stare her down, you will not bow your head to any who have not earned it on you, offer a neutral greeting

We do not kneel.
We arent kneeling.
An inclination of the head is respect, not genuflection.
Odin does it, and Odin hardly considers himself Mab's subordinate.
I think there is difference between some noisy and impolite parishioner and the entity of Winter, who Molly considers her enemy.
Mab is not our enemy.
If we considered Mab our enemy, you'd see it on the character sheet.

Seriously, you DONT want Mab as an enemy.
 
[X] Trigger Impervious Primacy Mantle and stare her down, you will not bow your head to any who have not earned it on you, offer a neutral greeting

We do not kneel.
[X] Trigger Impervious Primacy Mantle and stare her down, you will not bow your head to any who have not earned it on you, offer a neutral greeting

Only real option. Not like she's our queen.
It's just good sense to be polite under almost any circumstances where we are meeting with and interacting with a Power on Mab's level, especially one we can't fight on at least roughly even footing.

Being polite costs us nothing, after all, and the better we handle this situation the less likelihood that Harry will come out of it worse than he went into it. What's the point of having an Etiquette skill if we aren't going to use it when it actually matters? It really, really matters in this situation, ya'll.
 
It's just good sense to be polite under almost any circumstances where we are meeting with and interacting with a Power on Mab's level, especially one we can't fight on at least roughly even footing.

Being polite costs us nothing, after all, and the better we handle this situation the less likelihood that Harry will come out of it worse than he went into it. What's the point of having an Etiquette skill if we aren't going to use it when it actually matters? It really, really matters in this situation, ya'll.
A neutral greeting is polite enough.
Bowing is for superiors.

Odin does it, and Odin hardly considers himself Mab's subordinate.
Odin is Mab's subordinate though, at least in one of his aspects.
 
Addressing Mab as an equal isn't inherently discourteous, which is what the 'give a neutral greeting' is. We don't have to show supplication to be polite, we're not her subject after all.
We dont need to be her subject to be courteous.
And we only address Mab as an equal when we are an equal. We arent one yet.
It's just good sense to be polite under almost any circumstances where we are meeting with and interacting with a Power on Mab's level, especially one we can't fight on at least roughly even footing.

Being polite costs us nothing, after all, and the better we handle this situation the less likelihood that Harry will come out of it worse than he went into it. What's the point of having an Etiquette skill if we aren't going to use it when it actually matters? It really, really matters in this situation, ya'll.
This.
Seriously, this.
If she crosses a line, we are entitled to rebuff her. But lets not start shit.
 
"Molly what are you doing?" Harry had gone from looking concerned to downright alarmed. Hopefully he won't think to open the sight, something tells you he really doesn't want an eyeful of what you are holding

We should probably abuse the fact that we're essence 2 and can spend that many motes in a single combat turn. Assuming that applies here.

[X] Courtesy from a Devil
-[X] Activate IPM
—[X] Activate with WP if possible
-[X] Activate Etiquette Excellency
-[X] Lean on Usum for formal manners and guidance against saying anything that might leave us on the hook with the fey. Offer her a polite greeting by those terms.

Still thinking over a stunt. But we should definitely use the excellency here, first impressions are important. I'm using IPM in the polite greeting here because I want to make a point that we're doing whatever counts as polite here because we chose to, not because she cowed us into it.

I'd also really like to be immune to mental effects for the rest of this scene.

Edit:
Put the WP on the wrong charm
 
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[X] Trigger Impervious Primacy Mantle and stare her down, you will not bow your head to any who have not earned it on you, offer a neutral greeting
 
We dont need to be her subject to be courteous.
And we only address Mab as an equal when we are an equal. We arent one yet.

This.
Seriously, this.
If she crosses a line, we are entitled to rebuff her. But lets not start shit.
Would you bow if you met a foreign chancellor or president?

We might not be her equal, but we are also not in her authority.
 
@uju32, maybe something for the stunt like: "You summon up your mental defenses, and carefully pause for a calculated interval before bowing, just long enough to show that you are bowing your head because you choose to, not because you are forced by her mere presence."

At least as a start. I'll see if I come up with anything better when I wake up tomorrow morning.
 
A neutral greeting is polite enough.
Bowing is for superiors.
A small bow of the head is hardly kowtowing to Mab. If nothing else, it's a sign of respect, not for the woman herself but for the awesome, world-shattering power she wields and the sway she holds over Harry's continued wellbeing.
Odin is Mab's subordinate though, at least in one of his aspects.
Only when he wants to be. Odin swaps Mantles as he desires, and unless he's wearing the Winter King Mantle, he isn't under Mab's hierarchy at all. Even when he is Winter King, he's not her direct subordinate.
 
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