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Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

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[x] Heal LaFortier and Peabody, between the latter and Tiffany your money's on her (Opposed Faith vs Arete Rolls; Peabody takes -2 from being distracted)
-[x] Shadow Spite Curse Peabody using a picture of him.
-[x][Stunt]"Peabody is going to be somewhat distracted" you say as you look at his picture on Clippy. Just to give yourself some extra to lend your focus and give method to your spite you proceed to draw all sort of embarrassing and hurtful things on multiple pictures of Peabody. The other wizards in the group also have suggestions it's seems to be oddly therapeutic for them.

My money is on Tiffany. Still going to shoot the other horse.
 
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Man, the Senior Council is not looking good, PR-wise. They don't notice Peabody or his machinations, they get completely outplayed by the Black Council in the Hidden Halls, their leader gets stuck in an ambush and needs rescue, and now the same dude that got life-linked with Peabody gets body-puppeted by a Denarian. Talk about a shitshow.
 
TheGrape said:
Man, the Senior Council is not looking good, PR-wise. They don't notice Peabody or his machinations, they get completely outplayed by the Black Council in the Hidden Halls, their leader gets stuck in an ambush and needs rescue, and now the same dude that got life-linked with Peabody gets body-puppeted by a Denarian. Talk about a shitshow.
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Shit at this point I'm half expecting to hear that the Merlin is dead.
 
Yeah, even in canon they only ever nabbed Peabody, with the implicit understanding that the Black Council is still hidden away in the midst of the White Council. Here we threw dynamite into the lake, and while a lot of innocent fish got caught in the crossfire we can be certain that we're gonna catch all the evildoers.
 
TheGrape said:
Yeah, even in canon they only ever nabbed Peabody, with the implicit understanding that the Black Council is still hidden away in the midst of the White Council. Here we threw dynamite into the lake, and while a lot of innocent fish got caught in the crossfire we can be certain that we're gonna catch all the evildoers.
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I think the main problem is that the system transition doesn't seem to have really captured the balance of power from canon very well.

The white council didn't do certain things to defend themselves against things done here because to all appearances they were impossible to do. So when modeling the black council they get a bunch of free space to maximize their effectiveness in because they have a lot of unknown details in canon, but the rest of the wizards are stuck with only how they acted in a different environment.

I still view this event as failing forward rather than an actual success simply because everything is dramatically worse in every way and we're barely keeping ahead of it.

It's tiring to for everyone in the opposition to have a James Bond plot ready on pizza delivery timetables while everyone on the side of order here is blisteringly stupid.
 
BronzeTongue said:
I still view this event as failing forward rather than an actual success simply because everything is dramatically worse in every way and we're barely keeping ahead of it.
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That's not particularly true despite the admittedly staggering incompetence of the white Council here they've lost maybe 20 Wizards Maybe and at this point no senior counsel members. Which means we're Head and Shoulders above the actual Peabody reveal in Canon. Now did some of them die in ways that were easily preventable yes would more have them died if we hadn't intervened certainly.
 
Degorium said:
That's not particularly true despite the admittedly staggering incompetence of the white Council here they've lost maybe 20 Wizards Maybe and at this point no senior counsel members. Which means we're Head and Shoulders above the actual Peabody reveal in Canon. Now did some of them die in ways that were easily preventable yes would more have them died if we hadn't intervened certainly.
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They might still lose two, we even if the senior whipping boy over there lives he could very well be too screwed up to function as a senior council member. We also don't know where most of the wardens are or what they're doing, there are probably casualties there too.

On top of that they've basically failed in every conceivable way they could fail short of dying outright. It's like the FDA having deliberately poisoned the food supply and suicide'd anyone who learned about it.

This is all incredibly public and any bad actor who wants to push the wizards apart from each other and the communities they nominally safeguard has all the ammunition in the world to do it with.

I mean, when the already unpopular wardens come into town to lecture and threaten people about the law how much cooperation are they going to get after this? If you were one of those recruits we were playing around with how interested would you be in sticking this out? How will their allies feel about trusting them with information or joint operations when it's revealed that everything they've ever shared with the wizards has been gone over by the enemy?
 
BronzeTongue said:
They might still lose two, we even if the senior whipping boy over there lives he could very well be too screwed up to function as a senior council member. We also don't know where most of the wardens are or what they're doing, there are probably casualties there too.

On top of that they've basically failed in every conceivable way they could fail short of dying outright. It's like the FDA having deliberately poisoned the food supply and suicide'd anyone who learned about it.

This is all incredibly public and any bad actor who wants to push the wizards apart from each other and the communities they nominally safeguard has all the ammunition in the world to do it with.

I mean, when the already unpopular wardens come into town to lecture and threaten people about the law how much cooperation are they going to get after this? If you were one of those recruits we were playing around with how interested would you be in sticking this out? How will their allies feel about trusting them with information or joint operations when it's revealed that everything they've ever shared with the wizards has been gone over by the enemy?
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I mean in fairness the councils goal mostly seems to just be policing magic using humans.
 
BronzeTongue said:
They might still lose two, we even if the senior whipping boy over there lives he could very well be too screwed up to function as a senior council member. We also don't know where most of the wardens are or what they're doing, there are probably casualties there too.

On top of that they've basically failed in every conceivable way they could fail short of dying outright. It's like the FDA having deliberately poisoned the food supply and suicide'd anyone who learned about it.

This is all incredibly public and any bad actor who wants to push the wizards apart from each other and the communities they nominally safeguard has all the ammunition in the world to do it with.

I mean, when the already unpopular wardens come into town to lecture and threaten people about the law how much cooperation are they going to get after this? If you were one of those recruits we were playing around with how interested would you be in sticking this out? How will their allies feel about trusting them with information or joint operations when it's revealed that everything they've ever shared with the wizards has been gone over by the enemy?
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I mean how are the minor talents going to find out unless you tell them? It's not like Weekly Wizard News exists.

Remember the supernatural world isn't really modern in the ways that count, it is not very connected fast paced and it definitely isn't egalitarian. Also the reason to listen to Wardens is that they are among the most frightening magic users the average practitioner will ever meet. People like the Order of the Cauldron rarely have more than a vague sense about what the White Council does or is.

Lastly when taking into account what they faced the chaos and death were more or less inevitable, wizards work best with preparation, but when they turn to the dark side that becomes less and less true, both because law-breaking gives you options and because having a sponsor gives you powers you would not otherwise have.
 
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To be fair, it's not like anyone can really point fingers at this point, since even Winter got humiliated by having the Winter Lady Ninfected. This is a pretty bad showing, but that's more because the enemies are just that good, what with being Major Outsiders and Denarians.

We just, ah, might want to not mention just how poorly the White Council's response to finding out their traitors was. I am pretty disappointed by their contingency plans (mainly the lack thereof), but there's no need to trumpet that factoid to everyone.
 
fictionfan said:
Tiffany is giving this plan and with Find the Faithful she should be able to identify Namshiel's location from miles away let alone less then 10 feet.
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Find the Faithful is not a perfect effect, its a roll; even normally it has a chance of failure.
FIND THE FAITHFUL
This evocation allows a Scourge to locate specific individuals, mortal or demon, by homing in on their store of Faith.

System: Roll Perception + Awareness. The difficulty depends on how much information your character has concerning the subject. If she has the subject's mundane name, the difficulty is 8, If the subject is a demon and the character knows the subject's Celestial Name, the difficulty is 7. If she knows the demon's True Name the difficulty is 6. The Scourge can detect and home in on an individual up to a number of miles away equal to her permanent Faith score. Demons being actively sought in this manner can use their supernatural awareness to detect the search as a reflexive action (see the section on inherent powers for details). If a demon detects the search, he may avoid detection with a Willpower roll ( difficulty 8 ). If he gets more successes than the Scourge, he evades the search.

Torment: Monstrous demons can detect only sources of spiritual decay or corruption. They may use this evocation to seek out individuals whose Faith or Willpower has been reduced to zero.
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And the opponent is an elder wizard with two thousand years of experience putting up an effect to try to hide himself.
While advised by a Fallen Angel.

DragonParadox said:
Peeling Away Lies​
18th of February 2007 A.D.
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COMMENTARY
Dammit Aleron; you're supposed to be THE illusion magic guy.
Getting repeatedly bamboozled by other people's magic is a Bad Look. At least they werent able to puppet you as an active shooter.

Silver lining, with a bullet inhis leg we can be sure that noone is going to try to bodyjack him again and have him attack us from behind :V


Poor deluded Samuel eh? That says interesting things about the nature of the deal(s) that they had going, and how things were ultimately going to end up for Peabody. Especially since we know IC that Hell has a claim on the soul of Peabody's Master, and Lucian/Namshiel are essentially senior agents of Hell on Earth.

If Peabody is at -2 Wound Penalties, that means that both him and LaFortier are at 3/7 or 2/7HL, assuming they both have standard human health tracks.


Tiffany is Faith 3/10.
Peabody was rolling Arete 8/10 in our encounter. Even with a -2 penalty, Tiffany aint gonna beat that.
Not without help.

So if we cant use SSC, we're probably going to have to just have her use the painkiller of Flesh 1 and then stash him before moving on. We definitely dont want to bring him into Namshiel's presence.

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QUESTION
1)How much HP is LaFortier down? I'd like to confirm.
2) Does Shadow Spite Curse work on pictures or images of the person you want to curse, or only in person?
 
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What can we reasonably expect Peabody to do from the inside of a wizard specialized cell? He should've had all of his magic foci and the like stripped when he was put in there.

Then again he did successfully taunt Dresden into killing with magic and someone else did summon a demon lord in here so I'm not sure if it's smart to have faith in even the cells on the magic side.


He also still has communications with the guy in his head. Might be best to just leave LaFortier as is.. though if we give him some first aid now to avoid bleeding out we'd either need to send some people back with him, take the injured party with us to fight a Denarian, or hide him somewhere.
uju32 said:
Does Shadow Spite Curse work on pictures or images of the person you want to curse, or only in person?
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I think it'd be reasonable to write in that Molly took some of Peabody's hair for this purpose but that depends on DP.
 
uju32 said:
QUESTION
1)How much HP is LaFortier down? I'd like to confirm.
2) Does Shadow Spite Curse work on pictures or images of the person you want to curse, or only in person?
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  1. Wound penalties to not apply to arete. I made that mistake before. The reason Peabody takes that hefty -2 is because he is in a cell surrounded by hostile wizards who would like nothing better than to kill him. It is the stress not his wounds. Both of them are down to 5/7 otherwise
  2. It works if you have parts of their bodies or valued possessions, simple pictures are not enough
 
DragonParadox said:
I mean how are the minor talents going to find out unless you tell them? It's not like Weekly Wizard News exists.
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^^^
There's no mass media here, no putatively impartial news service that you can consult.
And reporting is Dangerous, as Susan Rodriguez can attest to. Poke your nose in the wrong place and vanish. If you have the right hookups, you can get information. Eventually. But even then, details can be scarce.

Its like when the Kemmlerites came to town and Chicago turned into a warzone, nobody told the minors shit besides Harry telling the people he met at Mac's that "they might want to be behind a threshold".
Murphy didnt find out the details of what happened for several years, despite being besties with the local wizard.

And see the Fellowship of St Giles people we met in Mexico, who still have no idea about who and why a satellite dropped on Honduras three years ago, besides "man, Ortega must have pissed off the wizards real good".
TheGrape said:
To be fair, it's not like anyone can really point fingers at this point, since even Winter got humiliated by having the Winter Lady Ninfected. This is a pretty bad showing, but that's more because the enemies are just that good, what with being Major Outsiders and Denarians.

We just, ah, might want to not mention just how poorly the White Council's response to finding out their traitors was. I am pretty disappointed by their contingency plans (mainly the lack thereof), but there's no need to trumpet that factoid to everyone.
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Four years ago, the previous Summer Lady was Nfested, murdered her own Summer Knight, and had to be killed publicly by a White Council wizard, along with most if not all of her then-entourage. The Winter Knight betrayed Mab and was helping her.
Everybody has taken public Ls in the last couple years.

DragonParadox said:
  1. Wound penalties to not apply to arete. I made that mistake before. The reason Peabody takes that hefty -2 is because he is in a cell surrounded by hostile wizards who would like nothing better than to kill him. It is the stress not his wounds. Both of them are down to 5/7 otherwise
  2. It works if you have parts of their bodies or valued possessions, simple pictures are not enough
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1) Fair.
2) Okay. We can stunt having his hair or something of his from when Sophia took him down
Thats workable.
 
BoredMan said:
I think it'd be reasonable to write in that Molly took some of Peabody's hair for this purpose but that depends on DP.
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Fair.

SSC is a Willpower roll at DC7.
Molly is still wet for Boiling Sea Mastery, so it drops by -1 to DC6.
Average roll of 9 dice at DC6 is 5 successes, rounded up. Plus the -2 from being under stress.

So Peabody would be rolling Arete 8 - 5 SSC - 2 stress penalty.
Which leaves him with 1 dice.
Tiffany should succeed with our help, assuming average rolls.
 
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