Would using the Crown to ask about "the origin of martial art" when looking at a manual burn out all martial arts, or only a specific art? We could try working backwards from modern martial arts.
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Don't wanna be rude its a bit late to be mentioning this now though.
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It would only burn out that style. Martial arts are interesting as far as your power is concerned, especially any magical ones.
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the origin does not help us as it would just tell its name at best and then great now we know the name of a long long long long long dead martial art. we could probably ask for methods to learn said martial arts though. also I doubt we meet requirements to use the origin of martial arts there are plenty of bullshit precursors though.
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Personally, I think hanging out with Molly's muggle friends is a waste of time, but it's like jury duty, something we need to get out of the way to avoid future consequences, minor though they may be. The same goes for visiting Rosie in the hospital and doing homework.
We can do it now and hopefully check the 'Socialize Like A Normal Teenage Girl' box for a nice long while, minimizing Molly's new weirdness factor among her acquaintances and getting Molly herself some benign social interaction, which should be pretty good for her state of mind.
This is just one week we're voting on, so it's not like we're missing out on much by fulfilling our social obligations.
Teacher eh? Or books.
Thats going to cost money. Either that, or favors. Or she could cheat and use the Crown if/when she acquires a suitable arcane focus to unlock the knowledge involved.
As written in canon, Rosanna Marcella was going to get better anyway, IIRC. The magic that was done already does the heroin aversion thing. Best to wait and watch, and offer moral support, because her boyfriend Ken is dead. Killed during Splattercon.
No immediate hurry elsewhere.
Even in the event of congenital issues when she gives birth, Alchemy or Healing Path can fix that. Would be a plot hook though.
Wonder what happened to Nelson her now ex.
She leaned on her family connection with Drsden to have him bailed out of jail, so she does actually care about the dude.
Last we saw him he was in Forthill's guestroom.
I'll take your word for it.
Noone carries mundane shields in the Dresdenverse anyway.
Doesnt really suit the aesthetic.
Okay, I'll take your word for it.
But noone bothers. Not the Wardens, not the Knights, not the Fae.
I'd have gone for brass knuckles myself, woven into gloves, as a nonlethal option .
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don't brass knuckles require brawling though ergo tough shit for us? also for martial arts uh all it takes is seeing don't actually need to own the thing either see someone use it or literally just google it doesn't even need to be a good video or images.
Shields went out of fashion when armor plate armor became a thing. They don't offer anything more then being a walking tank does. And are equally useless against modern bullets.
I would have waited a week until summer holidays myself.
Not like any of those teenagers are strangers to the concept of being grounded, much as they like to insist they are almost adults.
I just dont feel strongly enough about it to make an alternative plan, though.
Rosanna Marcella is her friend, has miscarried, is currently pregnant again.
And her boyfriend Ken is dead.
She actually needs visiting and moral support.
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Oh, by the way?
Nelson did not cheat on Molly, or do anything else. Rosanna's pregnancy is for someone else, who is now dead due to the fetches attacking Splattercon.
He just used some drugs, thats all. And Molly trying to magically detox him with mental magic fucked him up.
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They are brawling aides, and can be wielded with both Brawl and Melee.
Just like some martial arts will allow you to use a sword.
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All true.
We would use a shield for the unlikely idea of someone fighting us with sword and claw.
Only it's not that unlikely.
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we don't know about exalted martial arts any chance usum mentions their existence in the past though? Cause it'd be useful to look at some martial arts and asking the crown how to acquire a martial art suited well to our power and skill.
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Does that require buying dots of Brawl?
Because I would not mind recreating Violet Bier of Sorrows from first principles.
Certainly would count as a summer project.
In the broadest sense of the word fencing is a martial art. The term is most often associated with other weapons or none at all but you can totally invent a sword martial art that uses Melee.
See above, if your martial art involves Brawl.
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if any super martial arts have been written down even if only incompleted I guess the archive would know them even if they have to piece them apart from a thousand different manuals. Doubt they'd be allowed to make said manuals for us though and if they don't I assume either said things are so far gone they don't exist anywhere except maybe in the minds of really old beings.
I think its suggestive when you consider that all the people fighting enemies with tooth and claw dont bother with shields.
Even the Fae dont.
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I mean you say this it doesn't change it does shit mechanically though? Like I'm sure magical shields you know exist as well just aren't common or practical for many or just plain hoarded.
I think it was just that Butcher did not like the aesthetics of shields. There is no reasonable IC cause for them not to exist, much more sensible for Harry to have simply never met or never described on screen someone using a shield. Not like he went into that many fights with or against people who used melee weapons
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harry almost never does melee cause against people who require melee its probably also already a losing battle for him or hes being forced into melee of some kind via some duels rules.
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Just like swords were useless against bullets, too. And then we probably made a sniper shit himself when we started parrying his shots like we're living in an anime.
I don't expect a shield to actually be much use against bullets, certainly not as useful as our sword at least, but there are plenty of other supernatural enemies that prefer to get up close and personal when they attack. Some of them don't even need to get a solid hit to do bad stuff, with a simple touch being enough to inflict damage or negative effects. Having a shield is just an extra layer of defense we can use if necessary.
Also, we have the Tool Charm and lots of points invested in Crafting, so we might as well use them. It makes sense for Molly to spend some time creating stuff, otherwise she wouldn't have invested so much in the skill or power. It's true to the character we've built.
It's IC for Molly to want to see her friends, and for her to sneak out in order to do it. In the previous chapter, one of them was even razzing her for not escaping her grounding.
Magical force fields are cooler! 😎
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that and resource wise dresdens always been kinda poor some books he always notes that he wished he had the time or resources which were spent in other books. Sometimes due to cash problems, resource problems, time problems, fuck even when hes the winter knight he has resource problems sometimes lol. which makes sense winter don't give free shit he definitely could of gotten said stuff when signing up as winter knight if he was negotiating for the position he was not he was desperate and mab knew that.
Hmm. Gonna think on this.
Might be better mechanically if there's simply a Merit that allows the person to treat their Melee rating as Brawl for the purposes of magic MA.
Magical shields do not exist in the Dresdenverse that Im aware of.
We've seen lots of magic swords, but no magic shields. Luccio used to make magic swords for every new Warden, but never bothered with shields, despite having been born in the 1800s.
A lot of supernaturals are old, and come from a time when sword and board was a lot more common. If even they dont bother....
Aesthetic is certainly part of it, and one which I agree with.
But the rest is that this is a magic universe. A free hand wields a firearm, or a knife, or magic, or can be used to manipulate stuff. All of which are much more valuable than a light shield that can be penetrated by a sidearm anyway. Even the Fae didnt use shields during Summer Knight, suggesting that the IC meta had decided shields were obsolete.
As for melee?
All the vampire Courts use hand to hand and melee weapons, as do a lot of combat servitors and summons, most of the minor Outsiders, and a lot of fae. Those are the opponents we've seen Dresden face.
If he doesnt think attempting to figure out shields is worth it, then it probably isnt.
Because we've seen him learn sword and staffwork when he thought it necessary.
Of course, Molly is allowed to make mistakes.
If it doesnt work for her, she can dump the shield at home.
Not like she is payimg XP for it.
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jims said pretty much everything exists dude magical shields must fucking exist its just not important. also doesn't think its worth it magic is heavily personalized in dresden files and dresden often doesn't have the time or resources to make a fucking staff and a shield is fucking conspicuous.
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Wow Mercy in Servitude would totally fit with the recent discussion on using magic to make money and pay 'goons' to do good. If she has another meeting with Thomas or another cursed person she could totally pick this up in a really narratively fluid way.
Actually, would this work to quiet the rage in the berserker werewolves? I would guess this wouldn't work in full Red Court vampires due to how they work metaphysically but not sure how berserkers work in that sense. There should still be the partial reds who were turned but haven't drank blood yet too right, this would be perfect for them.
Actually, would this work to quiet the rage in the berserker werewolves? I would guess this wouldn't work in full Red Court vampires due to how they work metaphysically but not sure how berserkers work in that sense. There should still be the partial reds who were turned but haven't drank blood yet too right, this would be perfect for them.
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it would definitely work on red court vampires it just wouldn't retroactively give them back their soul they'd just be monsters who must serve and happen to have less cravings now. also yeah its perfect for partial reds.