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Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
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Fixed, thanks.
I want to take it a step further than that. Magic anchored to the effect is great, but we could also vassalize elementals or make new gods bound to nodes and have them actively manage things for us.
Porter just minding his own business accidentally converted magic into mortal convenience that happened to manifest as off the grid power service. Seems like a more active effort should have great returns.
A full city god would be better still, but I think this would be easier to set up and immediately benefit from. Since they're both going to freak out anyone around us anyway we might as well start with something more durable than a ritual.
We also don't need to wait for an opportunity to get access to the fortune path since Molly can supply godcraft on her own.
Does that work both ways, or just for Molly? Since there's basically no way to stop it the exaltation trying to directly hurt anyone who tries an effect like this would be a nice consolation prize.
So hear me out of this:
Set to "grenades".
Or more seriously, set to ranged weapons so that mooks have to actually try this. From the example splendors it's valid to set this as a DC 9 willpower check for an interaction with MSP alone, which is good enough for our purposes.
So we could make a 3 dot fascination form of dreams/nightmares, memory smothering pall, and mystic fortification to add a temp willpower cost to resisting the effects as an extra screw you.
Fascinations operate on interactions instead of distance, so it should basically work like a cognitohazard instead of an AoE. It's not perfect, but it should help.
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Ah, but then we are trying to escape which means that we are at our most dangerous.
Yes, anyone trying to break into your soul with magic will be met with the full force of an offended Exaltation, worse than if Molly tried it.
Our commandos know what reds are and clearly prepared for them. Did that include someone testing holy symbols of Molly on the ones we took captive?
We don't see reds do something like draw a gun and shoot someone warding them off with a cross in the series even when it would make sense, so it's possible they won't be able to make themselves throw the grenades either.
I wouldn't want to exclusively rely on a gamble like that, but if we can add extra layers I don't see why we shouldn't.
You don't need faith magic in the DF to do this, just strong belief, and these guys were willing to face true death at Molly's request from day one.
We don't see reds do something like draw a gun and shoot someone warding them off with a cross in the series even when it would make sense, so it's possible they won't be able to make themselves throw the grenades either.
I wouldn't want to exclusively rely on a gamble like that, but if we can add extra layers I don't see why we shouldn't.
You don't need faith magic in the DF to do this, just strong belief, and these guys were willing to face true death at Molly's request from day one.
Tests have been done and they do work in Sanctuary, no one is sure if that extends to this to them quite alien world.
I wonder what Adkin and Harrowmont think Molly is. Tiffany is some manner of angel / angel-touched (mistaken for a nephilim maybe?). Harry is a Warden of the council. Lydia is a demigod. Those are relatively clear, if very rare things. Molly is... strange.
Also, we probably should activate leadership excellency right about now, I think. Maybe?
Also, we probably should activate leadership excellency right about now, I think. Maybe?
Harrowmont seems to be more impressed with the cyborgs. Keep in mind all his power is knowledge, he does not have a wizard's senses or any equivalent since those are a mark a talent/attunement to magic and he could not write a candle without a one minute ritual. So if you want to guess what he might think consider what he saw and heard with his human eyes and ears.
Anyway good night guys, see you tomorrow as Molly and company continue the hunt.
Thinking of the cyborgs, they should be the best that the FCF have to offer.
That means centuries of experience, curated sets of fomor powers, alchemical combat drugs and enchanted gear.
That's assuming none of them have nothing extra like being Path Sorcerers or having True Faith in Molly.
That means centuries of experience, curated sets of fomor powers, alchemical combat drugs and enchanted gear.
That's assuming none of them have nothing extra like being Path Sorcerers or having True Faith in Molly.
They have pretty standard augments, also a major selection standard for them was 'willingness to volunteer to risk their lives in the place without reincarnation' rather than strictly skill and knowledge.
But presumably that doesn't change which alchemical combat drugs or enchanted gear the quartermaster gives them, and would tend to rather select in favour of things like True Faith.
Yeah they do get the best of those.
My guess? Someone in deep with Yami Wan. The weird part is how she's not being ostracized by the people around her at minimum from that perspective. A Jade would also sort of fit, but one with her power wouldn't act like her.
Given a rough understanding of the thousand hells and a quick skim of Molly's powers with no context I'd be tempted to draw the conclusion that she'd won the lottery by drawing a patron on the decline.
We know the hells have issues getting into reality these days, and that not all of them have the same level of difficulty.
Imagine you're a Yama king that has a hell strong enough to stay unconquered, but niche enough that it's effectively completely cut off from earth. You're basically stuck trying not to wither away while your enemies can at least try to grow.
Then one day you either get a new Jade qualifying soul or someone managed to contrive the right circumstances to connect to your business line again. In either case if this hypothetical Molly knew the score she'd have ridiculous leverage, though more in the latter case than the former.
As the only seller on the market and sole avenue to getting any more of them she could demand a lot, and even a lean hell realm is still a domain that's spent millennia wringing power and secrets from countless human souls.
So you're at your desk, amazed at the prospect of something other than a slow death by attrition, when some punk kid younger than you favorite pair of socks looks you in the eye and says something to the effect of this:
"Here's how this's going to work; you're giving me everything on the menu and I'm keeping my soul. That's non-negotiable.
In exchange I will generously not destroy the last traces you ever existed in the mortal world, guaranteeing you an exciting future as a pet project for one of your rivals in the process. This time.
If you're a very good boy and sign a binding contract to buy exclusively through me I'll even keep things that way."
Supposing that worked she'd get something approaching the powers of a greater Akuma with none of the drawbacks*.
The odds of that working are basically nil, but it's a tempting narrative for someone like Harrowmont because it's basically the story of someone who hit the books hard enough that they gained the ability to walk up and extort power from someone all but born to it.
* Also demonologist!Lara
High Dharma Wan Kuei can act pretty diversely, and something like a Wise Centipede Boddhisatva playing the role of a human could easily be as powerful as she is, stink of Yomi because of their enormously strong P'o, and be very good at seeming like a mortal.
Even if one was a warden of the white council and a knight of the cross wouldn't be associating with her.
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Also, those guys are pretty rare. That level of knowledge about esoteric vampire cults from the other side of the planet isn't exactly an obvious bit of lore for them to have and reference.
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Do we know that there's no reincarnation for them, or is it "we don't know if they'll reincarnate, so we have to assume they won't" situation?
That would require them to know what Yomi Wan is. Remember - while both are scholars, they don't enjoy universal setting knowledge, and far eastern demon realms aren't their major subjects of study.
True, but I think the general idea would be on their radar because of the jades. They aren't active over here, but they're sorted into the same category as the other major vampire courts and Harrowmont is an occult nerd.
Knowing how many types of vampire there are, and the basic outline of the distinctions between them, seems like the sort of thing he'd have pick up.
Harrowmont could maybe think that. Adkin I am less certain about - he is likely less knowledgeable + he has our interaction with his idol as a data point.
No, but you do not know there is so the rational position is 'assume there is not'.
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When in doubt, err on the side of death being dangerous.
I was thinking - we should try and contribute to our kingdom. Well, we are already contributing, of course, by saving hundreds of millions from nuclear cancer, and providing the whole world in our soul, and doing spiritual advise, and working as a contact point with the outside universe... The thought rather got away from me. Point is - one of our primary focuses is craft. We got incredible returns on craft uses so far. And we are a god-empress of a world-spanning empire, where artisanal craft has a role. So:
1) When we do wonder crafting in our kingdom, I propose we do this with an attending audience of greatest craftsmen and enchanters, and with all the recording equipment. I don't expect them to (quickly or easily) decipher exalted/primordial craft, but just knowing something is possible is half the journey, and they might glimpse something.
2) Leaning into god-empress role - make our own custodians, or at least super-soldiers. Inner devils unleashed + latter day devil implants + wonder crafting charm + possibly fetish making charm all multiplied by the traditions of our courts should be able to produce some pretty extreme upgrades. If we rope in Lash to help, I am fairly sure we could make people who would give legitimate pause to warform fallen and such.
3) We haven't even started learning our world's martial arts. Our brother is already learning, but we are not. The moment we have just a bit of time, I think we should.
1) When we do wonder crafting in our kingdom, I propose we do this with an attending audience of greatest craftsmen and enchanters, and with all the recording equipment. I don't expect them to (quickly or easily) decipher exalted/primordial craft, but just knowing something is possible is half the journey, and they might glimpse something.
2) Leaning into god-empress role - make our own custodians, or at least super-soldiers. Inner devils unleashed + latter day devil implants + wonder crafting charm + possibly fetish making charm all multiplied by the traditions of our courts should be able to produce some pretty extreme upgrades. If we rope in Lash to help, I am fairly sure we could make people who would give legitimate pause to warform fallen and such.
3) We haven't even started learning our world's martial arts. Our brother is already learning, but we are not. The moment we have just a bit of time, I think we should.
We don't have AP for those things. The only one that isn't a major ap hog i think would be the crafting thing.
And the mortal martial arts are really good tbh.
I really want to purchase Splintered Gale charm this turn, I think. Put two into our kingdom - one to learn martial arts, one for more general education, and both as a backup in case we die. Put the third one in our school.