Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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Yzarc
The Spark of Madness
Do we want the masqueradeto stay up?
We do have advantages in that we have a nation of our own and can contact the UN as a Peer Nation. I mean we have a nation roughly the size of Mars and have a population in the Billions.
Being able to introduce it directly may do a lot to putt off any collapse, especially if the Governments make a few announcements to reduce or even stop panic.
We do have advantages in that we have a nation of our own and can contact the UN as a Peer Nation. I mean we have a nation roughly the size of Mars and have a population in the Billions.
Being able to introduce it directly may do a lot to putt off any collapse, especially if the Governments make a few announcements to reduce or even stop panic.
The issue is that the only point of contact between Earth and the Courts is Molly - we are very limited in how much stuff can pass through in either direction.
However, yes, I believe that we could leverage our Courts to help with a controlled disclosure. And that masquerade is pretty much doomed, and we need to get on top of that.
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We have 3 from the recordings of the exorcisms, and want the full list anyway.
That thing needs hunted down as quickly as possible.
What we should do about the masquerade collapsing is tell the white council about it's traitors, Tell the archive at price important information in a shift in Outsider strategy 'she is neutral can't be seen getting free info that she can pay for' preferably in the corpses of four powerful Supernaturals. Tell literally no one else.
Win that lottery, Find Sea superweapon, acquire a library, learn Hellfire for non essence magic attacks and Unweaving, learn 3rd dot of alchemy for proper magical metals for our creations (Armour, Prodigies, Splendors), Learn Mana manipulation for general counter magic, Knock off Sight and Ley line manipulation.
Finalize the protections of the Order of Cauldron, Ask the members who among them would be interested in also joining a greater organization of Supernaturals. Commence Consolidation of the undercity making sure the people are cared for while housing them as best we're able before sending them on their way or adding them to our service.
Chirality Prohibition Index doesn't have a logistics or R&D department of evil or hedgefund counterpart for some reason.
Win that lottery, Find Sea superweapon, acquire a library, learn Hellfire for non essence magic attacks and Unweaving, learn 3rd dot of alchemy for proper magical metals for our creations (Armour, Prodigies, Splendors), Learn Mana manipulation for general counter magic, Knock off Sight and Ley line manipulation.
Finalize the protections of the Order of Cauldron, Ask the members who among them would be interested in also joining a greater organization of Supernaturals. Commence Consolidation of the undercity making sure the people are cared for while housing them as best we're able before sending them on their way or adding them to our service.
Chirality Prohibition Index doesn't have a logistics or R&D department of evil or hedgefund counterpart for some reason.
The black court was broken by exposure once, I doubt they'd buy in. The reds have too much to lose on that front as well.
That said I think we need to start talking as soon as possible. Claim everything comes from MiM-ing the shards, and maybe we need time to digest them so we can get a clearer picture. Tell the archive, the fey courts, the white council, and the library.
We need people to begin preparing to minimize the chaos and Nemesis's ability to benefit from it.
That also means getting them a full host/servant list, more knowledge on how nemesis plans to carry this out, and any weakness we can exploit against it.
The masquerade isn't ideal, but I wouldn't say it coming down while Nemesis is positioning to exploit it is good either.
There's also the issue of how governments are made of people who will probably panic too. It will not be hard to make this horrifying for the opposition even if we break the story early, because the truth already is.
It'll be bad enough without a monster from beyond reality doing things like deliberately pressing the worst buttons in American psychology to cause us to invade Mexico and drone bomb everything fucking else.
That's just local to Molly, how hard would it really be to get nearly everyone to believe they need to crush the monster nests nearby to be safe? Especially when it's so much easier and simpler than solving a domestic problem?
Bet you it starts with a massive wave of refugees fleeing the red court and being shot on sight by scared locals wherever they go.
Arc 11 Interlude 2: Poisoned Roots
Poisoned Roots
7th of January 2007 A.D.
"We have a problem," Lash's voice was uncharacteristically serious as she walked into the hotel room, a stack of papers in one hand a whole thermos of coffee in the other. Somehow even though she had gone out last night after midnight and not slept a wink she still exuded lazy grace like something out of Caravaggio. Stop right there Harry, I told myself, I did not need to think of her in terms of painters who imagined gods, it's enough that she'd made some kind of demon pact with a sixteen year old girl, even if she was apparently satisfied with the deal.
If she could read my expression, and to be honest she probably could, she did not comment on it, instead taking out the foremost page in her stack of papers and smoothing it out, a cartoon on sky-blue containing a smiling dinosaur, dodo and between them the outline of a human. The caption over the top in bold lettering read: Visualize Voluntary Human Extinction.
"This is literature for the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement, a brand of particularly idealistic environmentalism that argues that humans should allow themselves to die off so as not to damage the planet anymore than they have. On their own they are harmless enough, quixotic of course, but the most you could accuse them of is being a easy target for those who wish to disparage the wider movements a whole. But the fact that Green Tomorrows has so much of their literature made me suspicious. That is how I found out they are printing more of their own, literature which they are not sharing with outsiders..."
"Then how did you get it?" Michael asks, looking over the papers.
"Please," Lash snorts. "Whatever else they might be these are college students. I can hardly claim to have seduced them out of Albert 'Call me All' Jensen back there. All I did was make vague approving sounds at him for most of the evening. In any case the in-house literature gets worrying fast, esotericism with a Dionysian bent of course I expected that, but there is other stuff that is hard to pick out, the notion that some people are 'karmically superior' which is what makes them capable of miracles and at the same time obliges them to climb a narrowing stair, a great deal of talk about sacrifice and the need to use their gifts for the good of the planet."
"Shit, it's planning to do a Jamestown on these kids." The prospect makes me sick enough to be glad I haven't had breakfast yet.
Lash's lips thin into a line of anger or maybe disgust, it is hard to read her sometime, other than 'that's a no'. "It's not burning anywhere near fast enough for that. If you want people to kill themselves you have to get them to a fever pitch, not this kind of low simmer. I think what we are looking at is prep, training agitators, missionaries, they are about the same thing." She's obviously expecting some kind of reaction from Michael, but when he does not answer she continues. "Moreover I think there are more cells like this across the country, maybe even across the world, we only caught this one since the Trespasser Knight's attempting to make it pull double duty as experimental faith magic laboratory."
"What makes you say that?" Lydia asks, worriedly.
"Because you do not compose the Book of Cthulhu the Tree Hugger for a cult of sixteen people tops. Someone or something put serious effort and time into this tainted literature and that is a resource everyone values."
"Why hasn't the Archive caught it then?" I prompt, starting to leaf through the papers.
"My guess, because there aren't any red flags in here, many, many yellow ones, enough that if you are looking for it you can spot it, but picking it out of a blind search..."
"Too many false positives," Lydia offers from the corner. "How does the rabbit hide from the hawk that sees all? In a field of other rabbits."
"Rather less fluffy, but yes," the former, hopefully-former, Fallen says. "The problem is I have no idea what the second string is."
"Second string?" Michael looks perturbed, though whether at the matter of fact way she's talking about this or at the subject itself I can't say.
"Once you have a strong base you need something else to help them up the pyramid or down the pit, but that's mixing metaphors. The answer can't always be 'tainted changeling who has faith in Things she has no business knowing about'. Those do not grow on trees even in faerie so who normally enlightens, endarkens... no, that is still doesn't work in this language does it? Anyway who tells the little lambs things that can't be written down?"
"A ghost could do it, make it one of them, make it sincere. Kind of like Jacob Marley fighting for a darker power," Lydia offers, but I'm already shaking my head.
"Some confused kid a few years in his grave? Barely knows how to haunt and swoop around? Nah I don't think the black hats would count on that if they can help it, a nightmare demon, something stealthy, something proven and old or new and made to purpose."
"Regardless we are dealing with an entirely new kind of cult attempting to root itself into groups that have little to no protection," Michael concludes. There is sandness in his eyes yes, but butressed by unhsakable resolve. "We need to deal with Green Tomorrows, destroy the writings while at the same time alerting the relevant authorities."
The Archive is alerted automatically when you link up again. Who else do you alert of the danger of Old One cults among environmental activists?
[] The Holy Order of the Inquisition
[] The White Council
[] The Summer Court
[] The Winter Court
[] The White Court
[] No one else, let the Archive decide if she wants to bring others in
[] Write in
OOC: Remember some of these people may not have the lightest touch when it comes with dealing with potential Outsider Cults and others may be vulnerable themselves if you put them in contact with one of Nemesis' plots.
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taovkool
Forever Gone
- Location
- The Library, Department of General Works
[X] No one else, let the Archive decide if she wants to bring others in
Eh, not too enthused about any of them barging in on this. This felt like the sort of thing that needs a deft touch.
Maybe the Fae, but I don't like involving the Fae because, well, they're Faeries.
Eh, not too enthused about any of them barging in on this. This felt like the sort of thing that needs a deft touch.
Maybe the Fae, but I don't like involving the Fae because, well, they're Faeries.
Man, it's too bad they don't know anyone who can just look at a pamphlet and answer the question "what is the plan this material is meant to serve?". That'd almost be cheating.
If we can get the AP for it we should go on data harvesting mission. Bounce around the planet getting foci then handing off full write ups to the archive on all the things the outside doesn't want her to know about their activities. Just relentlessly bully their information warfare efforts like a middle schooler who hasn't grown any empathy yet putting their classmates into therapy.
Fighting them is fun and all, but I'd like to try giving eldritch abominations aneurysms from sheer rage.
The white council isn't aware of the oblivion war on an institutional level and their default response isn't always good.
DF has different categories of entity that have to be addressed in different ways. Some you can lock out by keeping secret, but others are easiest to screw over by spreading their rituals around. You can basically DDOS them with drunk college students until they can't really do anything. Unfortunately if you're looking for an anchor this just makes you even more impossible to remove.
They don't always try this because they know it's not always optimal, but Thomas's first on screen excursion for the Archive made it sound like it was a common enough response that reality aligned Oblivion War factions would race them for cult writings to make sure they did not have the chance to make a bad call that permanently embeds an outsider god in the public consciousness all around the globe.
Organizing this is what the Archive is for, we can trust Ivy with the job.
[X] No one else, let the Archive decide if she wants to bring others in
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- Location
- Germany
[X] No one else, let the Archive decide if she wants to bring others in
Silvereagle21
Soaring through the Sky
- Location
- United States
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
[X] Plan Death to the Outsider sympathizer
-[X] The Holy Order of the Inquisition
-[X] The White Council
-[X] The Winter Court
-[X] The Holy Order of the Inquisition
-[X] The White Council
-[X] The Winter Court
- Location
- At Home
[X] No one else, let the Archive decide if she wants to bring others in
*Sighs in AP starvation*
WeylandSmith
Loose Cultivator
- Location
- [Global State]
[X] No one else, let the Archive decide if she wants to bring others in
[X] Plan everyone relevant
-[X] Fae Courts
-[X] White Court
--[X] Through Lara
-[X] White Council
--[X] Merlin only
We are looking at masquerade breakdown here, this is obviously a part of the setup by Nemesis (also, Uriel's comment to Charity about global warming feels much more multi-layered now). Involved people need to know. Fae courts can affect global weather. White Court are the ones holding a lot of media under their control. White Council is likely to be the target of Nemesis. So... Yeah, they need to know.
-[X] Fae Courts
-[X] White Court
--[X] Through Lara
-[X] White Council
--[X] Merlin only
We are looking at masquerade breakdown here, this is obviously a part of the setup by Nemesis (also, Uriel's comment to Charity about global warming feels much more multi-layered now). Involved people need to know. Fae courts can affect global weather. White Court are the ones holding a lot of media under their control. White Council is likely to be the target of Nemesis. So... Yeah, they need to know.
OctarineShrike
Avatar of Mandos
White council already has nemesis assets we haven't figured out how to prove.