Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

"Plots and schemes can be as sharp as arrows and spears you know and even more deadly when one doesn't notice. Fortunate are those sharp enough of eyes to notice them and wise would they be not to speak of it. In fact sometimes it's even a good idea that your friends don't know how sharp your eyes are."
Mark this down as the Archive telling us that oversharing is a bad idea. To go with everyone else who's done it.
 
Are we sure that Titania and her Court can take this fight, or would we and the Archive need to provide backup, or would we even potentially need to call for more help (I.E. Harry, Lydia, Lash, Knight(s), maybe some of the Senior Council)? Hopefully we don't need to call in one of the Favors to make sure this guy goes down.
 
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Are we sure that Titania and her Court can take this fight, or would we and the Archive need to provide backup, or would we even potentially need to call for more help (I.E. Harry, Lydia, Lash, Knight(s), maybe some of the Senior Council)? Hopefully we don't need to call in one of the Favors to make sure this guy goes down.

Titania is currently burning like a second sun set to earth, flanked by an army that walks in the glory of Danu, she will probably take losses, she might get wounded, but push comes to shove she cannot lose, not here.

Mark this down as the Archive telling us that oversharing is a bad idea. To go with everyone else who's done it.

Yes in general but she is also telling you to never inform her how sharp your senses are. Since she does not know but only suspects she can think about things while only taking the usual amount of precautions about not being cold-read. And yes this is a loophole in her programing, but it is one that is necessary since otherwise a paranoid Archive could waste important resources guarding against shadows she suspects are there. And Archives tend to be paranoid.
 
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Are we sure that Titania and her Court can take this fight, or would we and the Archive need to provide backup, or would we even potentially need to call for more help (I.E. Harry, Lydia, Lash, Knight(s), maybe some of the Senior Council)? Hopefully we don't need to call in one of the Favors to make sure this guy goes down.
Titania is a heavyweight equal to Mab, at the heart of her power, with her court at her side. She doesn't need our help.

The choice is whether or not we should fight him (gain xp or not) and what exactly Nemesis's trap is in all this (because there's definitely a hole for us somewhere)
 
Also, potentially whether or not we want all and sundry to witness just what we are capable of when going all out?

Good, so Iku's not (at least currently) a world-ending threat.
 
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I wanna note that while "derangement" is a pretty goddamn strong language, the gameplay manifestation really depends on how punishing QM wants to play it. It could take a shape of comparatively reasonable compulsive habits, or it could be straight up ruinous nonsense. Consult Your QM™ . Bottom line, a derangement usually could be suppressed for a scene at a cost of 1 WP, but if you got a bunch that proc reasonably often, that could get pretty expensive.

That said, 5 dots charm for a +1 aspect is not particularly efficient. This seems to be more of "charm as worldbuilding" rather than "charms as a toolkit" element; a nod toward how Lunars could turn into insane monstrous shoggoths back in the age of legends, rather than something that provides actual mechanically-relevant tools to the players.

I also gotta note that I can't really say that Lunar excellency is that much worse than Lydia's, mostly because attribute-boosting is a lot more flexible and somewhat more xp-efficient than WP-boosting. WP 10 + WP regen trick required a pretty major investment.

...IIRC, there also were some non-fleshcrafting tricks for attribute-boosting Lunars into the stratosphere, but I can't find them on a quick rulebook skim, so IDK.

To some extent, but excellency explicitly works on the number on the character sheet, for shapeshifting purposes, and it probably holds true with other bonuses.
 
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"I... challenge... the proud-poisonous... heir. Thief-of-Dreams I name her... and... craven... to hide... behind the.... Herald-Sword-Love..." He does not rise, as a mountain from the sea, but more it seems to you the very waters of this place recoil from his impossible mass, thousand-headed, thousand-horned, father of plague, bringer of ruin.
How do you say "If you didn't want your stuff taken maybe you should've tried being less of a bitch" in Rakasha? Maybe ask him if he's enjoying being stuck in one boring old role as a minion's minion in other people's epics yet? :V

He was stealing from mortals on behalf of grumpy fish people who were milking him like a dairy cow. We won our spoils fair and square, but if we stole from anyone it was the Fomor whose hands we ripped off Iku's udders.

Seriously though, why is this guy being given the time of day? He's clearly an outsider pawn who just emerged in the heart of Summer to help nemesis continue victimizing members of their high nobility. Just pulling this stunt gives Summer a bigger grievance with him than he has with us.


Hey, it's an angel sword wielded by a great man.

They'd make for a comfortable cowering spot.
Micheal didn't even touch the guy though, he and Lydia were on mook duty while we stabbed him.
 
To some extent, but excellency explicitly works on the number on the character sheet, for shapeshifting purposes, and it probably holds true with other bonuses.
Do you mean the whole "Excellencies do not synergize with buffs" thing?

//at least that's the ruling I recall, which is, idk. Not super confident in my memory, on this one... Which chapter Molly vs Airplane it was? That was the last time excellency+buffs came up last time, IIRC.
 
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Well, the most obvious part is that he is not really bound by his word. And also doesn't give a damn about collateral damage.
That and how the most immediate thing this does is buy nemesis time and information.

If we do this now then his pawns have more time to act and he gets a front row seat to combat kit.

Given that I think we need to clear the possessed before fighting if we do so at all.
Do you mean the whole "Excellencies do not synergize with buffs" thing?
Lunars have a way around that though. They have a charm that lets them move dots around in the same attribute category, which outright changes the base score. It's expensive essence wise, but given time to prep they can be built for exactly what they need to kick the most ass in a particular situation. Their base stats also change with the animal forms they assume, which don't have the same caps as humans.

A well built lunar who knows the fight is coming can set up stuff like a superhuman hybrid animal form before excellency and buffs apply.
 
My first instinct is to accept the duel.

This said, it probably is meant to be some sort of trap, but just springing it might still be the best way forward?
 
Lunars have a way around that though. They have a charm...

That might be a part of why my brain very stubbornly tries to insist that Lunars can do silly things with dice, even though I haven't found terribly many ways to do that on a recent charm-rereading, rule-skimming session. Somewhat underwhelming, compared to vague impressions in my brain... Maybe fairly recent dive into 2e optimization silliness is leaving prints where they aren't welcome?

Oh well. If I didn't mandela myself, once it becomes actually relevant, this thread gonna find it in a couple of weeks at worst.
 
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Can we ask the duel to be taken later or impose some conditions? He is the one who is proposing it and we could fuck nemesis plans if we move the duel after this is over
 
As he has issued a challenge, Molly has the right to choose place and time for a duel.
She can simply say that Iku can wait for a day after her current duty before the host is done.
 
[X] Accept the Duel

Let's have a bit of fun.
It's a trick, probably one that works whether we accept or not, but this way is more fun.
 
[X] Accept the Duel

On one hand, this is clearly a trap, probably meant to... what? Well, ideally kill us. Less ideally, I guess, gather intelligence on what we can do right now? I don't think if Iku Turso is Nemesis-controlled, so it shouldn't be able to gather information that way.

On the other, we have a lot more power than we did when we first fought it.
 
How do you say "If you didn't want your stuff taken maybe you should've tried being less of a bitch" in Rakasha? Maybe ask him if he's enjoying being stuck in one boring old role as a minion's minion in other people's epics yet?
By using Source code Compliance protocol without mercy.
Amoracchius, the Sword of Love that has an angel inside of it. He's saying you were hiding behind Michael like a coward.
I can't think of any time we have done that in context of Iku Turso. If anything Dad hid behind us that fight.
 
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Hmm, no I don't want to play by Nemesis' rules.

[X] Do like any reasonable nobleman would
-[X] Activate ATB, Charisma excellency.
-[X] «I accept your challenge, Dreameater! The hour after sunrise after my duty before the Queen is done, you will find your death here, wretched thing!»
 
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A small nod into which one does not have to look too deeply to see satisfaction. "Do you need to top up your reserves?"

"Yes, can you...?" Today is full of surprises. This particular surprise tastes like fire, cinnamon and symphonies all mixed in a whirlwind funneled into your heart.

Regained 3 Essence -> Now at 14/15 (Magical recharge)

"I don't suppose you can teach that to Harry?" you ask, a little giddily from the rush of power.

"Not until he's at least two hundred years old..." she pauses. "Three hundred for him."
Just for some basic worldbuilding and balance, did this cost her something?
Because being able to restore other people's basic ressources without using up your own would be kinda gamebreaking in many cases.

Turning Quintessence/Blood/Essnce/Gnosis/Rage and even health into each other is one thing, creating it ex nihilo another.
 
The real problem with the duel isn't that we might lose it's that we are going to need our essence for exorcisms.
[X] Let Titania and her Court deal with this
 
The real problem with the duel isn't that we might lose it's that we are going to need our essence for exorcisms.
[X] Let Titania and her Court deal with this
While in Nevernever, Molly restores a mote every three hours. I will edit my plan to exclude Intimidation, but she certainly can spare two motes. Take in account that Molly's reputation among the Summer Court will be worse, if she causes casualties by bringing her enemies to their doorstep.
 
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