Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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This looks pretty clear and I want to make up for lost time here so vote closed.
Tomorrow, same as Lydia's. We really dropped the ball there.
Birthdays are literally one of those occasions where its the thought that counts.
You can give gifts at any time of the year.
Just remembering to call/send a card or something minor here matters.
Its hardly going to take Molly an hour to, say, make a pair of birthday cakes and deliver them to the birthday people with a card.
Or a book. A music CD. A silly little action figurine.
Dont make a birthday gift more than it has to be.
Look at Dresden's example: He canonically intended to buy his brother a set of plastic children's toys off the shelf.
The thought counts a lot more than what you actually do.Its My Birthday Too said:
TTC can speed software development up by a factor of ten compared to what an unaided person can do who isn't using any special tools. No more than that, so no super-ChatGPT. If something would take millennia of man hours to manually code, Molly can do it in centuries instead. Not days.
And we don't have access to the codebase of a car company, or to the hardcoded things in the custom chips they use. They're highly senitive trade secrets, and they're tightly coupled to the car model. Particularly for an electric car, of which there are very few in this era.
It's much more obvious to steal a VIN, as there are surveillance cameras that compare car model to registration plate to look for cloned or stolen plates, and we're making custom cars.
And no one at the DMV would know how the car was made. That's not inspected, just the end product along with an attestation.
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fictionfan
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I don't know why you keep adding extra limits to charms because you certainly didn't get that from the charm. It simply say 10x craft speed without any limitations on the crafting method. Of course it also summons specialized tools.
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The scale of a "small gift that we can throw at a moment's notice and don't expect to be repaid for" has been established in the last update. We are well past "send a card" range.
That isn't what the charm says.
The comparison is clearly supposed to be a person using the same tools. Else we would not have been able to design the car itself in the time we did. And Molly has cyberdevil assistants with Tech 3.
Even if it wasn't online in some darkweb site, you can get a dump of the OS of any car by simply renting it from a rental agency and hooking up your computer(s). We have TTC; doing this should be easy. Tuning modern cars would not be possible if enthusiasts could not get at the software in the cars and tune the ECU for improved performance.
Even ICE cars require a lot of computer fiddle work to modify safely.
You cant just slap on a blower and call it a day.
Who said anything about stealing a VIN?
You buy the car legally, either new or if you're cheap, used. Preferably after it took damage in a car accident or flooding and is being sold at firesale prices. Then you have a legal VIN and can hopefully rebuild the vehicle without legal issue.
This has nothing to do with the DMV.
According to the Illnois Secretary of State? For a custom vehicle, this requires a physical State Police inspection at their leisure, in addition to a fair amount of tax documentation
And they absolutely have the power to probe further, or deny documentation if they aren't satisfied with the provenance of things. There are very good reasons to want to avoid the attention.
Mab and Odin are both in positions where they can afford not to care.
We aren't.
Yet.
Strong disagree.
Mab's gift required two 10-hour days to put together physically, a couple days of prepwork beforehand, and god knows how many thousands of dollars in raw materials. Its a small gift by the scale of what we can do going all out in a rush project.
Its not a small gift objectively.
Being rich, and having access to fuck you money, does not mean that only gifts you spend six figures on count.
You're losing perspective.
I mean, do you expect Molly to give six figure gifts to Izzy and Alec for their birthdays?
Or Rosie? Or Olivia?
Does it not count if she sends them a card and a book?
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Mab's gift is explicitely a small inconsequential gift. It can't be anything else, otherwise it would incur serious obligations on Mab, and that runs counter to its very purpose. Yes, it took two days, but that only means that we are stating that two days of labor is a minor effort jot worth repaying.
A small inconsequential gift to Mab, Queen of Air and Darkness, and the woman in charge of Winter's material and sapient resources, and with access to all the artisans who would willingly or unwillingly work for Winter.
Is not a small and inconsequential gift to literally anyone else.
It would not be small or inconsequential to Dresden, or the Carpenters, or Molly's friends, or the Jade Dogs, or Cauldron.
It wouldn't be a small gift to Thomas or Isabella.
It wouldn't even be a small inconsequential gift to Lydia, and she is a Resources 4 kid who grew up in the lap of luxury.
You are, in my opinion, making a critical error in this.
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Winning Vote
Arc 7 Post 4: Arcane Advertisement
Arcane Advertisement
30th of October 2006 A.D.
It would be a lie to say you aren't tempted to answer something glib starting with her name and finishing with asking about her taste in cars, but much as in the case of Mac, though with less in the way of goodwill in your heart, it makes sense to hold your cards close to your chest. "Hello, this is Molly Carpenter, who is this."
"Lara Raith, we have not met, but you are well acquainted with my brother." There is about that voice you cannot put in words and yet feel in the tiny hairs rising at the back of your neck, like listening to an old movie where, subtle imperfections of the film reel part and parcel of the actress' disarming charm.
Is she implying you and Thomas are in more than a business relationship? you wonder, startled. How much had he told her? On the one hand you cannot really fault her if she is since you imagine people stumble into the arms of White Court Vampires all the time, but on the other hand it would be nice not to have this conversation with your Dad right there, cloth in hand as he is not even pretending to be wiping off the car as he gives you a worried look.
"We are working together yes," you reply neutrally. Its on the paperwork for Chicago Synthetics after all and from what little you know of the woman at the other end of the call she can do a lot more than pull up publicly available information. "What's this about?"
"An offer, a potential partnership of sorts. Truth be told I would have preferred to wait a few more weeks, but given the one you will with tomorrow I did not wish to risk conflicts of interests forming before I had even laid out how I think we might both benefit from a certain arrangement."
How does she make 'arrangement' sound like a dirty word you wonder, at once creeped out and a little envious.
"There is nothing quite so disruptive, nor quite as valuable as a new trade good in a market is there Miss Carpenter? Alas that earns one enemies looking on with spite and malice as much as it does clients?"
This time the soft almost hypnotic tone does not disguise what the vampire is trying to do, get answers out of you while you are still off balance from the sudden phone call. So instead you keep your tone bland as oatmeal: "I'm afraid I don't know what you are talking about."
"Come now, who better than one of Chicago's very young entrepreneurs to know there are currencies more precious than dollars, prestige. loyalty, even peace right out of a bottle, and not the kind most people mean. Don't get me wrong, I'm impressed, very impressed that you could make such a thing, and Chicago Synthetics is a very apropos name, but the distribution leaves something to be desired so far."
Oh, the penny drops and you are not sure if its better to be confused for a drug dealer than a user. She thinks you invented some kind of potion to keep the Hunger of her kind at bay and are now spreading it around, starting with Thomas. Does she know about Isabela you wonder. Maybe that other vampire in whose name she had asked you about terms had talked.
"I could make it worth your while Miss Carpenter in terms far beyond mere dollar amounts to share your gift more widely with the Court. Indeed it would also reduce the meed to feed which would spare many mortals the loss of vitality, in the case of the young and the careless even their lives." Honesty rings in the words, though as you hear the confidence behind it you realize there is something else you had not been hearing out of Thomas' sister, nary a tremble of fear, nor a gulp of air as she steeled herself before your aura of dread. Something tells you it's not just a matter of the presence not translating well over the phone
What do you reply?
[] Explain that you cannot actually brew up a cure for the Hunger
-[] Lave it at that
-[] Tell her the truth of Mercy in Servitude
[] Stonewall her
[] Write in
OOC: To be clear mechanically Lara does not fall under DPE for... some reason.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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That's weird.
Molly thinks so too. She is Thomas sister and he falls under it.
fictionfan
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Well I can't really see any reason to tell her less then we have told Isabella.
[X] Explain that you cannot actually brew up a cure for the Hunger
-[x] Tell her the truth of Mercy in Servitude
--[x]Tell her as much as you have told Isabella. No sense in having conflicting stories when you are trying to spread it around.
[X] Explain that you cannot actually brew up a cure for the Hunger
-[x] Tell her the truth of Mercy in Servitude
--[x]Tell her as much as you have told Isabella. No sense in having conflicting stories when you are trying to spread it around.
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Not really.
She's his sister, but she has no idea how old Lara is.
Or how age and position affects the magical importance of a Whamp.
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Are we sure she isn't being impersonated? Because that is incredibly weird.
[X] Mislead her
-[X] "Not everyone would be willing to pay the price necessary."
[X] Mislead her
-[X] "Not everyone would be willing to pay the price necessary."
fictionfan
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A red vampire that was with Hernándo Cortés was effected by it. Don't think Lara is that old.
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ChatGPT doesn't exist yet in quest. Molly using TTC can code ten times fast as a software developer using the tools available to a contemporary of hers, not ten times as fast as a software designer using tools that don't exist yet (Chat GPT is not very helpful for the kinds of tasks needed even today).
As above on the speed. And no, downloading the compiled code is basically useless. We'd need the source code to modify the software to work on a custom model that has many differences to the one you copied. The complied code would only be useful if you were cloning a car, and we didn't.
I believe you are making a big mistake here. The importance of the gift to the one receiving it matters, but so does the importance of the gift to the one who is giving it matters. Gifts, after all, are a form of sacrifice. If we are to give this gift to Mab, we have to establish that it isn't of much value to Molly too, not just Mab. As you say "it is the thought that matters".
There's no logical reason to believe that whamps lose CoD status as they age. It's not a matter of power level, it's a matter of power type. Frankly, the only reason I can see is direct WG meddling. Or this isn't actually her. Or... did we actually check that DPE (our only way of checking for CoD status right now) works remotely through a phone conversation? By rules as written it should, but the description so far might mean it doesn't.
The impersonation is an interesting idea.
[X] "This isn't the type of talk I am willing to have over a phone. I have some free time the day after tomorrow. If you are serious, meet me at Chicago Synthetics"
Yzarc
The Spark of Madness
[X] Explain that you cannot actually brew up a cure for the Hunger
-[x] Tell her the truth of Mercy in Servitude
--[x]Tell her as much as you have told Isabella. No sense in having conflicting stories when you are trying to spread it around.
Laura is in a tough position and a dubious Ally but one we can work with.
-[x] Tell her the truth of Mercy in Servitude
--[x]Tell her as much as you have told Isabella. No sense in having conflicting stories when you are trying to spread it around.
Laura is in a tough position and a dubious Ally but one we can work with.