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Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

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Valkhir said:
It can go down to 3 by the way.
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...Difficulty 3 is the bare minimum Difficulty needed to roll before the ST decides that it's too easy and just declare your action as a succeses without needing to roll.

We have reached a point where if we go further than this, we will automatically succeed on ALL SOAK ROLLS for the rest of the scene.

Heavenly Lord Up Above, grant me strength for I have none. This is bullshit.
 
Okay, I have a slightly different asthetical idea for Demon Emperor Shintai:

Emerald Angel Contained
As she breaks out of her Anima transformed, Molly appears as a titanic statue of a classical angel. Perfect marble, decorated by rings of metal around her torso bearing scriptures in Old Realm.
Yet as she engages in battle it becomes quickly obvious that the perfection of the statue is a lie, in strenous activity or under blows (even those not truly damaging her) the marble flesh cracks and shows the burning green light below, the great eye watching from inside.
When she needs them, wings of hellfire form behind her back, 2 to 6 freely chosen.

Emerald Angel Unbound
When using the Unbound Eschaton Shintai the bands around her torso start burning bright with their ancient symbols and contrict until they shatter her marble flesh and begin orbiting around the great burning eye inside, leading into the angel shintai-form that was already discussed.


I kinda prefer something along these lines. You start with something great, but comprehensible, something that says "Don't be afraid (unless you are on my shitlist)". And only after that form we go full alien demon-god.
 
Before you guys drop massive XP turning into Godzilla consider that there are other sorts of challenges out there which you cannot soak with any amount of dice. Even in a fight you might have more squishy allies with you etc...
 
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Azais said:
@Jack vile Ripper how is it going on creating the Hell of Paradise lore? Or have you changed your mind about him for now, since you were talking about creating another Shintai?
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The Hell of Lost Paradise is currently going through some points reallocation in order to fully describe the full breadth of its boundary.

By which, I am currently working on it.
 
DragonParadox said:
Before you guys drop massive XP turning into Godzilla consider that there are other sorts of challenges out there which you cannot soak wit h any amount of dice. Even in s fight you might have more squishy allies with you etc...
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Social and Sorcery purchases run out of plannable and buildable parts much sooner, so its more fun to plan combat builds.

For example we can buy Crowned With Fury signature and ...thats it for improving social scores.

We can buy the Crafting Charms...and we can now Craft good. We can buy VDE and stuff, but its done.

Prospalz said:
Does Cracked Cell -3 to difficulty extend to soak when it triggers?

...Probably not.
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If its in the name of escaping confinement it does.

So if we are trying to escape and someone is hitting us, it would apply.

Edit: Also, I enjoy the combat parts most, with Sorcery and magic just below and nearly equal. So its obviously what I like to plan for and would vote for.
 
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Valkhir said:
If its in the name of escaping confinement it does.

So if we are trying to escape and someone is hitting us, it would apply.
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TACTICAL RETREAT, with more demon hide to cover your ass with!
Valkhir said:
Social and Sorcery purchases run out of plannable and buildable parts much sooner, so its more fun to plan combat builds.
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I'm currently thinking of making some Homebrew Charms for the other Hells. So Charm creation will also be a major part as well.
 
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Prospalz said:
Nice.

How weapon/attack that can pierce 20 points of automatic soak and do meaningful damage to 30HL underneath looks like, in-universe?

Getting stabbed with a sword of the cross or equivalents aside.
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Uhhhh maybe a nuke? I think Total Annihilation only does 50L if I remember correctly, and that was Adamant Circle in normal Exalted using some bullshit.

Maybe more than a nuke.

Its tanky.

Edit: Exalted also had inflated HLs, while WoD had usually just 7.

Having more HLs in an Exalt thing apparently, for reference.
 
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Valkhir said:
An Abrams running you over does damage in the range of Total Annihilation? Eh, I believe it.

There is also Agg damage so I guess Holy stuff.
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White Wolf and scales, man (or lack thereof). They are as bad as G.R.R. Martin and scalings.

Although, I wouldn't recommend going rules as written for that particular instance. ExWoD Page 310 says that if Lucifer were to have an A1 Abrams when he rebelled, the Angelic Host will be dead in no time.
 
Valkhir said:
An Abrams running you over does more than Total Annihilation? Eh, I believe it.
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This is a joke about how military vehicles were absolutely stupidly overturned to disallow PC to solo modern military armies back then. PC being able to hulk their way through arbitrary numbers of heavy military vehicles supported by lotsa of soldiers run against game themes, IIRC. Or something. It is a somewhat more subtle equivalent of how back in Exalted Kukla had [No, you die] for a statblock because you weren't meant to fight it and win.

*I think.*
 
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Prospalz said:
This is a joke about how military vehicles were absolutely stupidly overturned to disallow PC to solo modern military armies back then. PC being able to hulk their way through arbitrary numbers of heavy military vehicles supported by lotsa of soldiers run against game themes, IIRC. Or something.

*I think.*
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This is the very same people who, when writing World of Darkness, proscribes to the idea of "Suck the snake-dick of Set, nerd. Any character that doesn't run away screaming dies."

I mean, their Stat Block for Caine is literally, in bold capital letters:

YOU FUCKING LOSE​
 
Artemis1992 said:
EXvsWoD is nice enough to give us rules for both ancient vampires and military.
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50 Blood Points per turn is pretty fucking scary yo.

Ravnos, who was NOT a combat specc'd Ante, killed the majority of Bangladesh and India and had to have 3 Mandarins, multitudes of other Factions, including the undivided attention of the Technocracy before he's stopped. And he was in FRENZY when that happens. He can't even use the full potential of his Chimerstry until he was gunned down by Spirit Bombs.

Imagine if someone like Ventrue woke up? The world will be dead.
 
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ExWoD had to live with both Exalted and WoD.

One has Caine, which you saw, the other statted out the Ebon Dragon, a Primordial in RotSE and he wasn't even that scary to a well built E5 or higher combat Solar in my opinion...

Hard to keep the themes of both.

Edit: Mainly because his Perfect didn't work on Holy, but details, details.
 
Jack vile Ripper said:
50 Blood Points per turn is pretty fucking scary yo.

Ravnos, who was NOT a combat specc'd Ante, killed the majority of Bangladesh and India and had to have 3 Mandarins, multitudes of other Factions, including the undivided attention of the Technocracy before he's stopped.

Imagine if someone like Ventrue woke up? The world will be dead.
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That is heavy shit, but even an ancient should not be beyond 4 well-complimenting Exalted with good builds.
 
Valkhir said:
ExWoD had to live with both Exalted and WoD.

One has Caine, which you saw, the other statted out the Ebon Dragon, a Primordial in RotSE and he wasn't even that scary to a well built E5 or higher combat Solar in my opinion...

Hard to keep the themes of both.

Edit: Mainly because his Perfect didn't work on Holy, but details, details.
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Honestly, I've seen the stats for Teddy, but I'm not familiar enough with the system to know how good they are.

But lore-wise, you propably should have to fight through an army of his lesser souls (that he respawns as long as he has motes left) before you even get into weapon-range of the Ebon Dragon itself.

Edit: Teddy is a coward and should act like it.
 
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Valkhir said:
the Ebon Dragon, a Primordial in RotSE and he wasn't even that scary to a well built E5 or higher combat Solar in my opinion...

Hard to keep the themes of both.
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With Golden Destruction Disc and Honoured Companion of the Dawn, he can be killed. The Ebon Dragon is a pansy.

How the hell did the Usurpation even happen...
Artemis1992 said:
That is heavy shit, but even an ancient should not be beyond 4 well-complimenting Exalted with good builds.
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Grab a Sidereal, it will help you big time.
The Greater Sign of Mars
The Chosen of Battles spends 1 point of permanent Willpower and makes the Greater Sign of Mars. For the rest of the scene, no attack directed against the Sidereal or any of her allies within the same city or city-sized area is capable of inflicting more than a single health level of damage, no matter how many successes are rolled.
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