Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

Would that be legal? I am not at all opposed to also offering money, I just assumed this would be illegal.
Giving them money to do stuff for us during their day job is, but as mentioned cops are allowed to do a limited variety of what's essentially gig work in uniform on their own time.

Some things actually require you to do it, like getting someone to direct traffic in a public space if you're having a festival or similar.

Actually hiring them isn't something we should solicit by wandering the department though.

I think the best bet would be to bring (infernally delicious) some home made cookies for SI just as a visiting gift to get them in a good mood, then work directly with Murphy to handle anything financial above board.

This is somewhat unusual, and our event isn't exactly a community music festival or something. Doing this the wrong way could make things hard for SI in the future.
 
Adhoc vote count started by Yzarc on Feb 7, 2023 at 11:30 PM, finished with 52 posts and 18 votes.

  • [X] Try to talk to Detective Murphy about providing security
    [X] Try to talk to Detective Murphy about providing security
    -[X] Empathy excellency
    -[X] Make donuts and coffee for SI who agree to help using the full power of exalted crafting (BSM, TLF, CCC, excellency)
    -[X] If SI is too busy, or otherwise can't help, ask for contacts to private security firms she might know; perhaps those with former SI employees.
    -[X] [Stunt] You enter the precinct, a box of donuts of your own make held in your hands, and Karrin Murphy waiting for you near the entrance: "So, we are throwing a party fit to wake the dead, and I'd like to ask some SI officers to help provide security. Refreshments for the volunteers are on me. Here, try a sample - I bet they are the best ones you've ever had".
    [X] Use Cyberdevils to keep an eye on the place
    [X] Try to talk to Detective Murphy about providing security
    -[x][Stunt]"We are throwing a party fit to wake the dead"
 
[X] Try to talk to Detective Murphy about providing security

No over the top kick in the door. Do it normally and boringly, just for the sake of contrast.
 
It's not just legal, in some places it's actually required for any event which requires a permit. You book them through the department though, so I'm not entirely sure if SI is separate enough that we can guarantee getting cops who are in the know via official channels.

Giving them money to do stuff for us during their day job is, but as mentioned cops are allowed to do a limited variety of what's essentially gig work in uniform on their own time.

Some things actually require you to do it, like getting someone to direct traffic in a public space if you're having a festival or similar.

Actually hiring them isn't something we should solicit by wandering the department though.

I think the best bet would be to bring (infernally delicious) some home made cookies for SI just as a visiting gift to get them in a good mood, then work directly with Murphy to handle anything financial above board.

This is somewhat unusual, and our event isn't exactly a community music festival or something. Doing this the wrong way could make things hard for SI in the future.
Thanks! So, amending the vote then:

[X] Try to talk to Detective Murphy about providing security
-[X] Empathy excellency
-[X] Make donuts and coffee for SI who agree to help using the full power of exalted crafting (BSM, TLF, CCC, excellency)
-[X] Provide legal monetary compensation
-[X] If SI is too busy, or otherwise can't help, ask for contacts to private security firms she might know; perhaps those with former SI employees.
-[X] [Stunt] You enter the precinct, a box of donuts of your own make held in your hands, and Karrin Murphy waiting for you near the entrance: "So, we are throwing a party fit to wake the dead, and I'd like to ask some SI officers to help provide security. Refreshments for the volunteers are on me. Here, try a sample - I bet they are the best ones you've ever had". As you are led into the department by Karrin, you add: "And I would also be willing to provide legal monetary compensation of course; do you know how we could set it up?"

Something like this. Celestial Exalted grade donuts and coffee as a hook, and legal pay as a bonus.
No over the top kick in the door. Do it normally and boringly, just for the sake of contrast.
Eh, we are an exalt, and a craft-focused exalt. And cops like donuts. I want to give them donuts.
 
The change is easy enough to explain in-story. Our exaltation is explicitly running on emergency power saving mode. You could easily say that it finished rebooting / reconfiguring.
Lydia is a bit harder to explain.
Lydia is easy.
She turns 16 on Halloween, and 18 is still two years away.
She obviously hasnt come into full inheritance of her magic and other gifts.

I certainly wouldnt be surprised if some of her charms changed to match in the future.
COMMENTARY
Hmm.
Talking to Mortimer ahead of time would have been useful.
It appears Morty would have been aware of Arawn's presence in the city long before anyone else.

Lydia needs Authority of the Psychopomp ASAP.
Nice to see Lydia is talking to people and making friends offscreen. Even if it is only Olivia.
[X] Try to talk to Detective Murphy about providing security
Murphy doesn't know Michael and Molly all that well yet, so it'd be good if she gets a chance to hear about Molly and Lydia doing some fairly innocuous stuff before they inevitably cross paths in a more legally dubious context.
She actually knows Michael well enough.
Back in Book 3 Grave Peril, the backstory is that Michael and Dresden were backup for Chicago SI on the raid that took down Leonid Kravos' cult operation. Michael put down(ie shanked) the demon that Kravos called up with extreme prejudice.

Kravos was arrested on drug trafficking and either kidnapping or child endangerment charges iirc before committing suicide in prison to empower his ghost for revenge.

It is a thing he can technically do, but much like being one with nature requires you to understand the oneness of nature, casting in an urban frame of mind would require him to understand how cities and advanced technology works, not as specific pieces of tech, but the underlying principles. He would be rolling Academics and Technology and those are not his strong suit.
Hmm. Yeah, the high school dropout who got a GED, and learned Latin via correspondence course.
Maybe for his birthday, get him some books on Chicago city history and modern technology, along the lines of A Brief History of Time, or a couple popular science series on DVDs assuming we can work around the techbane by then.

I thought Lydia took over Bachelor's Grove Cemetery.
She did.
So she either has legal permission from the person responsible for its upkeep and safety, or she took that over entirely.

Would that be legal? I am not at all opposed to also offering money, I just assumed this would be illegal.
I cant find what Chicago PD guidelines are, but these are the 2023 guidelines for Raleigh, North Carolina on Google:
Raleigh City PD said:
The City of Raleigh has elected to permit employees of the Raleigh Police Department to engage in Secondary Employment and Extra Duty Employment outside of an employee's normal City work hours. Permitting RPD employees to engage in Secondary Employment and Extra Duty Employment enhances the safety and security of the community at large through the increased presence of law enforcement officers.

Hiring Process


Raleigh police officers do not arrange their own "off duty jobs." All job requests are screened and assigned by the Raleigh Police Department.If you are a business or individual within the City of Raleigh who desire to hire off-duty police officers for an event or other circumstance, we encourage you to review the Instruction to Employers, Contract for Secondary Employment of Raleigh Police as well as example of Certificate of Insurance.

Please contact the Secondary Employment office well in advance of the date of anticipated security needs. Email general inquiries or you may also contact Sgt. Solomon Muriithi at 919-996-1140 during business hours.

FAQs about hiring a Raleigh Police Officer


Q: What is the pay rate to hire an off-duty officer?
A:
The pay rate for an off-duty officer is $35.00 per hour and the minimum length of a shift is 3 hours. A supervisor may be required due to the nature of the assignment or the number of officers working at the job site.
Q: How many contracts do I need for an event that requires several officers?
A:
Individual contracts must be prepared for each officer hired (e.g. if 2 officers are to be hired then two contracts are needed, 3 officers hired then 3 contracts, etc.)
Q: Do officers use their marked patrol car for off-duty jobs?
A:
Employers may have a marked patrol car parked at their business for $25.00 per 12-hr. shift (unfortunately we may not pro-rate this for shorter duration). Or, a patrol car may be hired for traffic control purposes for $150.00 per 12-hr. shift. Vehicles used in this capacity for periods of less than 6 hours will be billed at the rate of $25.00 per hour.
Q: Can I pay officers with cash at the end of the event?
A:
Officers may not receive cash and must be paid by check that is redeemable at a financial institution for the job assignment. If a vehicle is used for the assignment, a separate invoice will be sent for payment to be made to the City.
Q: Will officers hired be in uniform or plainclothes?
A:
For virtually every assignment, officers will be required to be in full uniform and duty equipment. Only in exceptional circumstances, and with prior approval of the Chief of Police, can an officer work an assignment in plainclothes.
Q: Is there a minimum time amount needed to arrange for an officer to work?
A:
While there is no rule, it is strongly suggested that a minimum of two weeks' notice to the Secondary Employment office is given regarding any off-duty needs. Adequate time is needed to obtain and review contracts & Certificates of Insurance and advertise the job to the pool of officers. This office does not guarantee that positions will be filled.

TLDR
$35/hour per officer, 3 hour shift minimum. Patrol car is $25/hour, 12 hour shift minimum.
Raleigh is relatively strict as well, since it mandates such employment can only be contracted through the department. Some other cities have offduty cops with jobs as piovate security at clubs and events.

Chicago doesnt necessarily have the same policies, and is a more expensive place to boot than a large city in the US southeast, but even assuming a 2x cost multiplier, hiring a pair of offduty officers and a patrol car to fend off trespassers and vandals for 6 hours is only going to cost $820 for two officers and $600 for a patrol car.

Round it up to $1500.
Add another $500 on top for contracting at relatively short notice.
Total $2000.

Either Molly or Lydia could afford to pay it without turning a hair.
 
I certainly wouldnt be surprised if some of her charms changed to match in the future.
Her Charms are pretty good for a Terrestrial-tier Exalted and that was what DP wanted for her.

Getting up a tier would need a better IC-reason than just getting older I think.

Growing in Essence is of course a normal process and you might be underestimating how good even a Terrestrial-Tier Exalted is at the height of her power, compared to many other beings in the setting.
 
You know the notion that you can just legally hire cops in the US to act as cops in their off duty hours is wild to me. I thought Molly would have to do it under the table or something
 
You know the notion that you can just legally hire cops in the US to act as cops in their off duty hours is wild to me. I thought Molly would have to do it under the table or something
Yeah, same here. I mean, I am still keeping the vote as it has monetary compensation now, and I want donuts to lighten the mood, but it's still wild.
 
VOTE
[X] Try to talk to Detective Murphy about providing security

Murphy has personal experience of what riledup ghosts can do. Back in Grave Peril, Leonard Kravos' ghost assumed Dresden's face and shape and attacked her in her office at Special Investigations. If Molly says they are trying to do some preventive work ahead of Halloween to keep them pacified, she will take it seriously.

She'll check with Harry, probably, but she'll take it seriously, and suggest headsup people who are clued in enough to take it seriously.

Her Charms are pretty good for a Terrestrial-tier Exalted and that was what DP wanted for her.
Getting up a tier would need a better IC-reason than just getting older I think. Growing in Essence is of course a normal process and you might be underestimating how good even a Terrestrial-Tier Exalted is at the height of her power, compared to many other beings in the setting.
I said changed, not increased in power.
You might find Authority of the Psychopomp for example apply to all spirits, not just undead. Or her anima power might be activateable for free, et ecetera. Changes in detail, not scope.

You know the notion that you can just legally hire cops in the US to act as cops in their off duty hours is wild to me. I thought Molly would have to do it under the table or something
The US is like that.
And to be fair, there are plenty of major private events where private security does not have the legal authority to make rules, and it would draw adverse comment for public law enforcement to be bearing the costs for security of a private event without compensation.

That said, a common sidehustle for state and local LEOs(I dont think federal agents are allowed) in the US is security work offduty.
At a club, a bar, some other private arena. They arent there as cops, but they can threaten to arrest, or indeed arrest you if they see something they can construe as a crime. Which is, as you can guess, open to abuse.

For one exampke you might have heard of, Derek Chauvin, the guy who knelt on George Floyd's head until he died?
Had a sidehustle as an offduty cop doing security at a club for 17 years.

He and George Floyd once worked security shifts at the same nightclub

Both men worked security at the El Nuevo Rodeo club, down the street from Minneapolis' Third Precinct, former club owner Maya Santamaria told CNN.

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George Floyd and Derek Chauvin once worked overlapping security shifts at the same nightclub

Floyd worked some Tuesdays as extra security. Chauvin worked as an off-duty police officer for the club for nearly 17 years, Santamaria said.
"I wouldn't characterize them as knowing each other," she told CNN's Josh Campbell in an interview.
But, she added, "We all worked together certain nights and they would have crossed paths

www.cnn.com

Derek Chauvin: What we know about the former officer convicted in George Floyd's death | CNN

Derek Chauvin worked for the Minneapolis Police Department for more than 18 years. In the span of nearly a year, he was filmed kneeling on George Floyd's neck for more than nine minutes, fired from the police department and convicted of murder and manslaughter in Floyd's death.
 
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The US is like that.
And to be fair, there are plenty of major private events where private security does not have the legal authority to make rules, and it would draw adverse comment for public law enforcement to be bearing the costs for security of a private event without compensation.

That said, a common sidehustle for LEOs in the US is security work offduty.
At a club, a bar, some other private arena. They arent there as cops, but they can threaten to arrest, or indeed arrest you if they see something they can construe as a crime. Which is, as you can guess, open to abuse.
Regular security can enforce houserules and order you to leave the premises if you don't stick to those.
If you don't leave, they can call the cops.

That works for everything from public libraries to big parties, generally speaking.

At least where I'm from.
 
The US is like that.
And to be fair, there are plenty of major private events where private security does not have the legal authority to make rules, and it would draw adverse comment for public law enforcement to be bearing the costs for security of a private event without compensation.

That said, a common sidehustle for state and local LEOs(I dont think federal agents are allowed) in the US is security work offduty.
At a club, a bar, some other private arena. They arent there as cops, but they can threaten to arrest, or indeed arrest you if they see something they can construe as a crime. Which is, as you can guess, open to abuse.

For one exampke you might have heard of, Derek Chauvin, the guy who knelt on George Floyd's head until he died?
Had a sidehustle as an offduty cop doing security at a club for 17 years.


www.cnn.com

Derek Chauvin: What we know about the former officer convicted in George Floyd's death | CNN

Derek Chauvin worked for the Minneapolis Police Department for more than 18 years. In the span of nearly a year, he was filmed kneeling on George Floyd's neck for more than nine minutes, fired from the police department and convicted of murder and manslaughter in Floyd's death.

As I understand it, what happens to major private events like football matches and the like in other countries is the cops provide security and are paid their salaries, just like with the rest of their duties. I mean if a bunch of drunken football fans start smashing up downtown that would be contrary to the public good so you get the cops to enforce 'no alcohol'and er... hope for the best.
 
Yeah, the high school dropout who got a GED, and learned Latin via correspondence course.
Maybe for his birthday, get him some books on Chicago city history and modern technology, along the lines of A Brief History of Time, or a couple popular science series on DVDs assuming we can work around the techbane by then.
I am certainly all for getting Harry higher education. He's a creative guy, he should be able to leverage better understanding of physics and technology. For the attunement to the city, though, maybe we should talk to Porter to get him to tutor Harry? He's an urban elemental, until we make the Chicago god, there's not many ways you can get a better teacher.
 
Regular security can enforce houserules and order you to leave the premises if you don't stick to those.
If you don't leave, they can call the cops.
That works for everything from public libraries to big parties, generally speaking.
At least where I'm from.
Yeah, sure.
But consider a situation where, say, a major sports team is hosting tens of thousands of spectators every week. Or a music festival.
Security has the legal right to expel or bar you from the premises. But they dont have arrest powers.

And that doesnt really help when those people are outside your premises, or snarling up the traffic in the local area.
Fucking shit up for everyone.

Its much the same rationale, I think, under which some prominent celebrities get police escorts to get them out of an area quickly.
Because while private bodyguards are available, their legal powers are limited.
Police powers are broader.

Yes, it is open to horrendous abuse. But thats par for a lot of the US police system.
As I understand it, what happens to major private events like football matches and the like in other countries is the cops provide security and are paid their salaries, just like with the rest of their duties. I mean if a bunch of drunken football fans start smashing up downtown that would be contrary to the public good so you get the cops to enforce 'no alcohol'and er... hope for the best.
Yup.
And while they are doing this, the rest of the city/municipal area has to make do with said private entity sucking up most of the law enforcement resources for the duration. Which is the sort of thing that draws complaints.

Some municipalities choose to deal with that by making said people pay extra for the privilege of hiring uniformed cops.
Others let offduty officers work.
Federal agents dont. But local and state do.

I am certainly all for getting Harry higher education. He's a creative guy, he should be able to leverage better understanding of physics and technology. For the attunement to the city, though, maybe we should talk to Porter to get him to tutor Harry? He's an urban elemental, until we make the Chicago god, there's not many ways you can get a better teacher.
Porter spends most of his time sleeping.
And its frankly questionable how much of his knowledge is learned knowledge instead of just instinct due to being a city elemental.
Cats are great hunters, but they cant exactly teach it.

Nah, Harry gets to do this the hard way, like everyone else.
Unless Molly busts out Training charms.
 
Porter spends most of his time sleeping.
And its frankly questionable how much of his knowledge is learned knowledge instead of just instinct due to being a city elemental.
Cats are great hunters, but they cant exactly teach it.
I think he's sleeping much less now that an infernal exalt has taken residence near him.

You might be right about the instinctual part, but learning elemental magic from elementals is a traditional staple of fantasy, so learning urban magic from or by observing an urban elemental sounds like a thing to try. Could be worth asking.
 
I think he's sleeping much less now that an infernal exalt has taken residence near him.
You might be right about the instinctual part, but learning elemental magic from elementals is a traditional staple of fantasy, so learning urban magic from or by observing an urban elemental sounds like a thing to try. Could be worth asking.
If thats true, its probably more likely due to the active upgrading of the Dragons Nest I suspect.

Remember that Dresden has two fulltime jobs in the middle of a supernatural war between vampires and wizards. He does not have the time to follow urban elementals around for original research. And as an adult man, there are hard limits to what he can be told to do. We want him to do something, its on us to minimize the effort involved.


Anyway, one consideration worth noting?
Molly doesnt know IC that Murphy may have suffered professional consequences for coming to Arctis Tor to save her life.
In canon, she was demoted from Lieutenant back down to Detective-Sergeant and lost all her seniority, and thats in addition to Rudolph fucking around with her.
Rank said:
  • Superintendent
  • First Deputy Superintendent
  • Chief
  • Deputy Chief
  • Commander
  • Captain
  • Lieutenant
  • Sergeant
  • Field Training Officer
  • Police Officer assigned as Detective
  • Police Officer

No idea if the Library intervened on her behalf in this AU.
Either way, meeting Murphy will bring that to mind as a Wrong to be corrected sooner or later.
 
Vote closed.
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Feb 8, 2023 at 6:17 AM, finished with 67 posts and 20 votes.

  • [X] Try to talk to Detective Murphy about providing security
    [X] Try to talk to Detective Murphy about providing security
    -[X] Empathy excellency
    -[X] Make donuts and coffee for SI who agree to help using the full power of exalted crafting (BSM, TLF, CCC, excellency)
    -[X] Provide legal monetary compensation
    -[X] If SI is too busy, or otherwise can't help, ask for contacts to private security firms she might know; perhaps those with former SI employees.
    -[X] [Stunt] You enter the precinct, a box of donuts of your own make held in your hands, and Karrin Murphy waiting for you near the entrance: "So, we are throwing a party fit to wake the dead, and I'd like to ask some SI officers to help provide security. Refreshments for the volunteers are on me. Here, try a sample - I bet they are the best ones you've ever had". As you are led into the department by Karrin, you add: "And I would also be willing to provide legal monetary compensation of course; do you know how we could set it up?"
    [X] Try to talk to Detective Murphy about providing security
    -[x][Stunt]"We are throwing a party fit to wake the dead"
 
Arc 5 Post 33: Passions of the Dead and the Living
Passions of the Dead and the Living

28th of September 2006 A.D.

Lieutenant Murphy's desk stretches out like a rampart of lacquered wood all but hidden under neat piles of paperwork between the computer and the twelve ounce coffee cup that looks solid enough to bludgeon a man across the head. As for the officer herself, she takes in the sight of you and Lydia with the sort of weary gaze mom gave last year when she was informed she was in charge of the Christmas pageant at Amanda's school after the teacher in charge somehow got the mumps. The question is does she think of you and Lydia as an untimely blight on her plans or just a pair of seven year olds.

"What's this about Bachelor's Grove? It's still a month to Halloween."

Before you can speak Lydia clears her throat. "Yeah, that's a good part of the reason I want to do it now and no later, besides promising to do it of course. The Dead have a lot of energy behind them thanks to that TV show and vow to be good or not if they take that into Samhain someone's gonna have a visitation they don't want. Plus after all that's happened they deserve to engage with the living properly and not through cold glass."

"Can you take that from the top Ms..."

"Rhi," your friend gives her name, in English 'king' or 'lord', though you gather that Welsh naming conventions do not really work like that. Arwan had never forgotten what he was, what he intended to be again. "You can just call me Lydia." She flashes a shy smile, taking full advantage of those dimples while she can, you note amused.

"My father was a traveling mediator in the ways of death and the dead, keeping the living and the dead safe from each other's worst impulses. Alas I do not think separation works a well as it once did these days " As she speaks her grows not older, but more sober, an image of innocence frozen upon a marble slab. "Modern man has lost much of his fear of death and in many ways it is good that it is so, graveyards are no longer the final internment of whole generations dead to sickness, practitioners of medicine are no longer stigmatized for seeking the secrets still buried in dead flesh, but as fears of earthly maladies fade there is little enough to ward the living away from the spiritual dangers of improper contact. Most of the faiths of this land assume that the living would have a healthy weariness of the places of death and so do not teach as the ancestor worship of old did the propitiation and the bargaining with those who have crossed the Veil. Haloween is a time for handing out candy, for sending out children abroad in the night, content in the belief that it is all good fun, the fascination for the macabre and otherworldly is intemperate. I do not believe is is the dead who should be made to suffer for this lapse."

Much to your surprise the detective does not look the least loss at the manifesto, which you suspect has more to do with Lydia's disagreements with her father than anything. Leaning back in her somewhat battered chair the officer asks: "Right, people are pissing off ghosts because they don't believe ghosts exist anymore, but what do the ghosts want?"

"Pathos," Lydia answers with emphasis that makes it clear she did not just translate it into Latin to sounds cool. "They seek to be, and to be is to feel, desire or duty, love or hate, all ghosts need to feel things they treasured and held close in life in order to linger, to resist the current that would bear them ever onward into the unknown. It can be as simple as a specter with a passion for art lingering in an art gallery, as convoluted as a murder victim appearing only to descendants of witnesses of of their murder on the anniversary of the deed. Where things get complicated is where the living are involved. As one spirit explained it to be the difference between emotion for a place or an idea and emotion provoked by interacting with the living is like the difference between food and drink, you need the former to subsist , but the latter is intoxicating. In that context a 'ghost hunter' show with hundreds of thousands of people watching for the chill down their spine, but with no investment in any particular spirit is like... sending hundreds of bottles of unlabeled vodka in the mail. The recipient does not have to drink them and indeed most would prefer not to, but if there is nothing else to do, no company more enjoyable..."

From the way her eyes darken for just an instant the lieutenant is no stranger to solitary drinking. "So you are giving the ghosts something fun to do so they won't break into the hard liquor. What's to stop them from doing it later?"

"Power unshaped evaporates sooner or later, in this case I would wager sooner because it's so hollow," you reply.

"And you need police officers to keep trespassers out so they don't get mobbed you said over the phone."

Lydia opens her mouth, to argue with the word 'mobbed', you would guess, but in the end she closes it and just nods, the details do not matter as much as making sure no one gets hurt. Instead she asks how much it would cost, offering to pay without hesitation.

"I'm going to need a signature and something to put on the forms and ghost dance isn't going to cut it," the lieutenant says.

"Seance," you offer simply. "It's the truth, but no one has to believe we are actually communing with ghosts, just that we don't want anyone to crash our Ouija Board party."

In response Lieutenant Murphy cracks a smile, unlike most people in her position she'd taken the detailed explanation of how spirits work and why remarkably well, more relaxed for knowing. "Glad it isn't some monster that goes bump in the night on the loose this time."

The words bring you up short, there is such a monster you know, the Skinwalker, but you can't think of anyway Special Investigations would be able to so much as ruffle its fur feathers or scales. Yet you have no doubt Karin Murphy would want to know anyway, this is her city and her area of responsibility and this is the woman who had braved Arctis Tor with a gun loaded with cool iron. "Perhaps it might be in your favor if the detective where to be somewhat upset at the Wizard Dresden for keeping her in the dark..." It takes you a moment to realize what Usum is getting at at which point you are very glad for all the practice you have had not blushing.

Do you tell Murphy about the Skinwalker?

[] Yes, she deserves to know and who knows if those people from the Library of Congress have her back maybe she can do something about it

[] No, it is more likely to get her or one of her officers hurt

[] Write in


OOC: Well here we are, Harry has done a Harry and kept Murphy in the dark again, question is what are you going to do about it?
 
Yes, we should definitely tell Murphy about the Skinwalker. There's not one damned thing she or any member of SI can do about the monster, but then again we probably can't, either, at least not yet. Murphy is way beyond the 'ignorance is bliss' phase, so now sharing this information can only be helpful.

If it improves our standing with her and SI, that's even better.

[X] Yes, she deserves to know and who knows if those people from the Library of Congress have her back maybe she can do something about it
 
OOC: Well here we are, Harry has done a Harry and kept Murphy in the dark again, question is what are you going to do about it?
Keeping it totally secret seems like a bad plan. I don't want idiots like Daedalus poking a damned skinwalker of all things, but Murphy and SI aren't stupid. They're also the local authorities on this stuff, and the longer the skinwalker is in town the more likely it is they'll end up investigating the crimes it commits.

Telling them what to look out for and when to call in people who can actually hurt it could save a lot of pain for everyone.

[X] Yes, she deserves to know and who knows if those people from the Library of Congress have her back maybe she can do something about it

Considering how long the library has been around and when it was founded, I wouldn't be surprised if they've got some stuff on the older inhabitants of the continental US. With a calling name in particular they might be able to get a lot on how this particular guy likes to operate.
 
[X] Yes, she deserves to know and who knows if those people from the Library of Congress have her back maybe she can do something about it
 
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