I never claimed an absolute, which you just have. I'll have to ask you to support this absolute statement.

Hekatonkhire's aren't 'what remains of a deva after it's dead' the way ghosts are 'what remains of a mortal after it's dead.' They are 'what's remembered of a being of great power by the Underworld,' and even that definition isn't all inclusive. Really, the best definition for the term is 'powerful thing running on Underworld essence that does not fit any other category.' And I'll repeat; there are powerful things running on Underworld essence that are not representative of anything that ever walked on Creation before.

Rare but not impossible, especially if you killed it in Creation which is much closer to the Underworld than Malfeas. The death of a Third Circle, for that matter, is probably going to be an Event. They don't tend to die soft quiet deaths like a human passing away in his bed. The death throes of a Primordial soul is going to be a miniature cataclysm all its own, especially when you perma-kill it. I'd be surprised if doing so doesn't count as the kind of slaughter that would open a Shadowland at its death site.

An Event? Sure. But even such a grand event isn't going to do much; demons they may be but their very Essence is torn asunder and scattered to the 5 corners of Creation and beyond when they are killed, with nothing left to tie them to anything. It might cause a shadowland to form at the site of its death, it might not, but as it's not tied to the reincarnation cycle I would bank on it doing absolutely nothing at all, no matter how clamorous its death cry is.

Now, the mortals it might kill in the event, that's something different, and they might remember enough of it even in death that the Underworld is marked by their memories and gives rise to a new Hekatonkhire birthed from the horrors they remember of the fight...

I never said that it was a ghost.

I guess I just treat Third Circles as more important than most people, I suppose. In my game, if you shiv Erembour in the back you've just destroyed a Thing That Will Never Be Again. You have lessened the world, removed one of its wonders and terrors. You have put a crack in the body of a titans whom forged existence from chaos. Her black blood will spill across the ground and her moaning servants will shriek and tear themselves apart in fits of agony and despair and each of her subsouls will shudder and collapse as Alvuea and her brothers and sisters perish in horrible agony and then the world knows that from that moment forward there will be no more treasures from the Forge of Night, no new demons spawned from their subsouls.

You have broken the world in your arrogance. Maybe not a pleasant part of the world, but still a part of it. You have accomplished a Legend, which they will speak of for many generations. The Underworld will remember.

The Underworld? How would it remember? Erembour's Essence would be scattered, quickly diluted, processed and remade within the vast network of power that are Creation's ley lines. Unless she died somewhere close to, or within, a Shadowland it's unlikely that any of it would reach the Underworld in the first place.

Now, the Yozi would know, and feel the worst of it, but that's because the bulk of her existence is there, within the great prison that is Malfeas. That little, barely worth mentioning thimble of power and awareness that was Erembour's incarnation in Creation, that's nothing that can't be handled.
 
The sounds coming from down there are rather more like the sounds of a real-life nuclear reactor. Hissing things in metal cylinders - pistons. Boiling water - steam. Clattering and clanking. It may be some sort of Creation analogy to one. We'll probably find out more when Keris shows Sasi the text she copied off the top of the plug.
Protoshimaic vortex maybe.
 
Yeah, PSVs are an interesting concept, but out of everything that might be remaining from the First Age, that's pretty darned low on the list.
 
Honestly, I wouldn't say they are that interesting, at least not as presented. Oh, they're dangerous, but that alone doesn't really make something interesting.
Depends on how you work it, "free energy" that has to chained and restrained lest it break free and revert everything within a mile to energy, Or "free energy" that requires a permanent investment of time by someone who's a valuable asset, "free energy" that only the elite have the resources to properly utilise and can use it to oppress the masses.
 
So, going by the OPP forums, apparently the Exalted devs were too busy to actually read the anthology stories and give them a thumbs up/thumbs down, so the company just released them without any oversight at all. That's why "D&D with Exalted terms stuck on it" A Singular Justice got released as-is and why nobody corrected the Double Exalt thing.

This rather takes away from my hope that they'd fixed the "release whatever freelancers send in with no editing or oversight" issues of 2e.
 
A double Exalt?

Is that like a dual-core Exaltation? Exalt 2.0?
A dragonblood first half Exalts as a Solar, then finally goes the whole way.

4chan has of course seized upon this and is currently flinging around ideas such as the Solar Dragons, Sidereal Lunars, and Double Getimians.

Not the mention the Abyssal Yozi and the Akumalords.
 
Depends on how you work it, "free energy" that has to chained and restrained lest it break free and revert everything within a mile to energy, Or "free energy" that requires a permanent investment of time by someone who's a valuable asset, "free energy" that only the elite have the resources to properly utilise and can use it to oppress the masses.
I feel that you aren't really replying to what I said. What's your point?
 
Do you ever get that feeling when you're reading a manga or something and go '...I want to play this character in Exalted'?

Because that's what I'm doing right now.
 
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