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I still favor having the Getimians be connected to Nox - specifically as imagined within the old Nocturnals fan splatbook, where he was betrayed and murdered by the Maidens, who always resented his role as Calibration King, tester and questioner of the Loom's schema.

The basic idea of the Getimians as could-have-been princes and princesses of Creation even lines up with my own envisioning of Nox having been cut to pieces, Ouranos-style, and his remains dispersed throughout the Loom to prevent him from reforming. There, the individual clots of Nox's flesh now fulfill a function similar to a mortal kidney, absorbing excesses and anomalies of Essence and processing them into shadow-worlds within themselves.

A Getimian is born when a denizen of one of these not-quite-Creations is able to awaken to the illusory nature of their reality, absorbing it and the speck of godflesh which fueled it to re-incarnate themselves within Creation proper.
 
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So, when the Abyssals manuscript came out, Ryang noted that several of the charms were 'Hot singles in your area' charms. And partly as a joke I said I would make that character when the book came out in full. A month or two back I started putting the character together and planned to post my thought process behind what I was picking/making for him in full.

Then an old friend of mine said he wanted to spin off his current Stygia playtest into a full campaign and wanted to know if I'd be interested in joining up

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(Abyssals are something I just find really cool aesthetically and I love making them the villains of my Solar games, so I've got at least like 4 concepts I could go with but I'm going with the Apocalyptic Awareness Evil Overlord with the 'hot singles in your area' charms. Just for fun.)
 
GardenerBriareus said:
I still favor having the Getimians be connected to Nox - specifically as imagined within the old Nocturnals fan splatbook, where he was betrayed and murdered by the Maidens, who always resented his role as Calibration King, tester and questioner of the Loom's schema.
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It would, I imagine, be rather hard to tie a canonical Exalt type to an extremely noncanon character. Not that it stops anyone from doing so, of course.
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So, when the Abyssals manuscript came out, Ryang noted that several of the charms were 'Hot singles in your area' charms. And partly as a joke I said I would make that character when the book came out in full. A month or two back I started putting the character together and planned to post my thought process behind what I was picking/making for him in full.

Then an old friend of mine said he wanted to spin off his current Stygia playtest into a full campaign and wanted to know if I'd be interested in joining up

>=3

(Abyssals are something I just find really cool aesthetically and I love making them the villains of my Solar games, so I've got at least like 4 concepts I could go with but I'm going with the Apocalyptic Awareness Evil Overlord with the 'hot singles in your area' charms. Just for fun.)
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Please tell me how it goes!
 
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If the Bleed was supposed to be some naturally occurring hole in space/reality then Rakan Thulio did effectively create the Getimian Exalted because it wasn't Exalt or even person shaped before he got there.

To clarify, I'm not trying to reconcile what the previous developers said at different points in time. I just find this pretty funny.
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"The Incarna don't want you to know this but Exaltations are free, Chat. You can just go down to the Bleed and pick some up!"
 
Anyone remember a minimum number of distinct, as distinct as they can be in their circumstances, Neverborn that existed? There's a lot of vagueness there, but I'm trying to find the most concrete number that can be pulled out.
 
Anaja said:
Anyone remember a minimum number of distinct, as distinct as they can be in their circumstances, Neverborn that existed? There's a lot of vagueness there, but I'm trying to find the most concrete number that can be pulled out.
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We know there are thirteen Deathlords, by the number of embassies in the center of Stygia. Strictly speaking we don't know absolutely for sure that there's a one-to-one correspondence, but it at least seems like a reasonable guess based on that there could be thirteen Neverborn.
The Black Nadir Concordat cracked open and explored five different Neverborn as part of inventing necromancy, so that's a lower bound on how many there could be. Upper bound would be the number of primordials who existed at the start of the War, minus the number known to still be alive, but I'm not sure that's ever been canonically specified.
 
Anaja said:
Anyone remember a minimum number of distinct, as distinct as they can be in their circumstances, Neverborn that existed? There's a lot of vagueness there, but I'm trying to find the most concrete number that can be pulled out.
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It's something 3e is explicitly ducking I think. This is how they're introduced and largely informs how they're described in the manuscript.

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Death of the Neverborn

When the gods and their Chosen made war against the ancients, the enemies of the gods knew death for the first time. The Neverborn fell through reality into the Underworld's uttermost depths, slain titans imprisoned within the tombs that are their corpses. They are not dead, for death was never meant for its own makers, but they are eternally dying. It is pain beyond imagining, an endless nightmare from which there is no reprieve. The Neverborn do not scheme, or speak, or even think. In what brief intervals of lucidity they might have, all they can do is long for existence's end.
Source: Abyssals: Sworn to the Grave, pg. 23


They're not even explicitly described as "Primordials" and at every point thereafter they're discussed as a kind of nightmare gestalt. Necromancy itself has a similar sort of subtle redefinition where it's an emergent thing drawn from the crypt bodies of the Neverborn but also fragments of the Old Laws and mortal methods of mourning and worship. The Black Nadir Concordat is similarly made more ambiguous as well, they're not the sole inventors of Necromancy or the ones who cracked open the tomb-worlds of the Neverborn, they're just referenced a few times as fabled First Age explorers of the Underworld.
 
Five Neverborn does have some symmetry with five members of a circle of Abyssal exalts.
There's something poetic and amazing that could probably be done with that. I'll need to brainstorm.
 
GardenerBriareus said:
I still favor having the Getimians be connected to Nox - specifically as imagined within the old Nocturnals fan splatbook, where he was betrayed and murdered by the Maidens, who always resented his role as Calibration King, tester and questioner of the Loom's schema.
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There's a couple reasons I think they didn't go with that. The prior devs mostly I think in that they didn't like Nocturnals or Nox much anyhow. And the later devs were trying to limit the amoun tof new entities to introduce to have new Exalts. There was already the Dark Mother made for Liminals, and the Apocryphal Exalted all needed a new entity. So Nox kind of added to the pile.

The other bit to note is that Nox was presented in a light that made him sympathetic by couching the Maidens as the baddies and such. The issue is that well, the original presentation of Nox is kiiinda creepy-ass incel shit, so recasting that as "The good guy, actually" is probably something I don't think helped things. Nox also in the Nocturnals thing doesn't fit 3e cosmology much. The Loom doesn't run fate, and destinies being decided by committee is a bit factor of how 3e depicts Heaven's purpose.

GardenerBriareus said:
The basic idea of the Getimians as could-have-been princes and princesses of Creation even lines up with my own envisioning of Nox having been cut to pieces, Ouranos-style, and his remains dispersed throughout the Loom to prevent him from reforming. There, the individual clots of Nox's flesh now fulfill a function similar to a mortal kidney, absorbing excesses and anomalies of Essence and processing them into shadow-worlds within themselves.
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Sure, but again, it is kind of going a bit into the "This is how would I have done it from scratch." Minton and Vance to an extent did a lot of what the Getimians are from scratch. And again, the avoidance of compounding entities, and I also think not wanting ot just take fan work and making fanon canon, both contributed to why that is. Again, "Fans had this for Nox" is not really any obligation on Exalted to read or say that is what he was. And what he was in the canon text is kind of deplorable.

There is a bit of that in how Nebiru works, amusingly, in the sense of his Exaltation being his remnants. But htat has also I feel a bi tmore agency to things and ambiguity on betrayal or not.

GardenerBriareus said:
A Getimian is born when a denizen of one of these not-quite-Creations is able to awaken to the illusory nature of their reality, absorbing it and the speck of godflesh which fueled it to re-incarnate themselves within Creation proper.
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Sure, but honeslty, to me the titan who sees What Never Will Be and th eone who can See All That Will Be, manifesting something that could have been, is pretty neat to me. A side bit I generally have is that every Getimian to be Chosen ever has alrady well, been Chosen, the moment the two of them made them. Difficulty: This includes ones that will neer be anyways.
 
Imrix said:
I wouldn't be so sure of that, given some of the scuttlebutt around how Morke treated RO.
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I think there's honestly a bit of at times folks like that not wanting to delve into that to cover tracks, or being blind to one's own terrible behavior while critiquing others.

That being said, whatever it was, I don't think Holden was keen on Nox at least, and the devs who took over sure as hell aren't.
 
Sanctaphrax said:
Oh, is that why RO disappeared from the fandom?
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I don't think he's left the fandom, he was around after Exalted Essence came out. I think the main factor in him not being around is that the Onyx Path Exalted forum didn't really recover from being broken for as long as it was (also presumably being busier IRL like most of us are).
 
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Getting hugged by a really fluffy Night Caste is guaranteed way to reduce all Limit levels instantly. Don't mind the missing coin purse though. Artist
 
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Got a new commission. This time with my Air Aspect Pilfering Slight, or Zana for short. She is a extremely notorious thief in the scav lands known for Grave Robbering and Tomb Raiding. She happily digs up stuff buried days before or stuff from the first age equally.

She isn't even a necromancer, just a sorcerer thanks to all the old lore she dug up. Zana does this shit for the love of the game.
 
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MiracleGrow said:
Got a new commission. This time with my Air Aspect Pilfering Slight, or Zana for short. She is a extremely notorious thief in the scav lands known for Grave Robbering and Tomb Raiding. She happily digs up stuff buried days before or stuff from the first age equally.

She isn't even a necromancer, just a sorcerer thanks to all the old lore she dug up. Zana does this shit for the love of the game.
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How is pilfering slight shortened to Zana?

She's cool though
 
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